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Hi All,

Many of you may not know who I am - others will remember that I used to post quite frequently on the old board. Anyway, I havent been visiting the site regularly for a long time as I have largely recovered from DP.

My DP started about 4 years ago after I took ecstasy. I had experienced DP/DR in the past, so knew what was going on when the next day the symptoms came back. I also became very depressed and suffered the symptoms that are associated with depression. It was hell - i never thought i would have any relief ever and just felt i was getting worse for a long time. Finding this website was excellent - it gave me some hope and i gained a lot of good advice from others that were going through exactly i was.

After about a year of playing around with different meds, I started taking knolopin (clonezeapam) and celexa (citalopram) in combination, and the improvement was dramatic. Within two weeks, the DP which was so bad and debilitating had started to lift. My depression also lifted. It took a long time, but after taking the meds for a few months i started to feel almost normal.

Since then, I am still taking these two meds and am slowly weening myself off. I am not CURED of DP, as if I miss my meds, I get DP back (not nearly as bad though) and the depression tends to return. But, I am happy to say that since the onset of my present dp episode, I have finished two degrees, have moved interstate, and am working in a fast paced corporate environment despite my condition. My advise to all is to never give up. I nearly gave up so many times, thinking I would never get better. But, with time and the right meds for me, I am getting on with life well.

Just thought you all might like to hear of success. This brings me to my point - keep trying to help yourself get better. I know it is hard and it can feel like there is no hope but there is. Try different techniques and keep working at it until you find some relief. Some will find help with meds, some with therapy and some with something else all together. Just dont give up on trying to make yourself better.

In summation, here are a list of things that I believe can help you get better (if not necessarily cured) from the horror that is DP/DR:

1. Meditation - reduces anxiety and can allow better sense of attachment to your body.

2. Medication - people will argue about meds and their role with DP till the cows come home, but I am proof that meds do work for some. Some have had success with the combo i take, others with lamictal, and many other combos have helped for others. It is a personal decision, but if you do take a med and it doesnt work dont be too disheartened - a bit of patience and testing of dosages and types will almost always be required. If you are going to try medication, talk with your doc and read, read, read about DP and the meds that have been successful. Give information to your doctor and help them help you - as DP/DR is so unknown, this can help you start the right way.

3. Osteopathy - I have found that seeing an oseto and receiving cranial sacral treatments have helped me greatly in reducing my dp. Cranial treatments assist in blood flow in the brain and reduces muscular tensions which can lead to dp symptoms. If my dp flares up badly, now i go and visit my osteo and it helps alot.

4. Supplements - DP can related to a lack of essential vitamins or amino acids and as such vitamins and other supplements - including l-glutamine, omega-3 and vitamin B - can help. It depends on the individual of course but these three are excellent supplements to try in my opinion. I feel that l-gluatmine saved me from my previous dp episode when i was younger and can help if dissolved under the tongue.

5. Excercise - keeping healthy and on the go is important in general health, especially for dp and depression. It seems so sometimes with dp to do ANYTHING, but even a small walk can help. Get oxygen in your system and blood flowing - it helps.

6. Eat Well

7. Seek Therapy - A large part of my recovery was seeing a psychologist every week. He helped me understand what might be causing the dp and gave me some excellent advice over time. Just talking to someone who could have some idea about how i felt made me feel a whole lot better.

8. Do things that do (or did) make you happy - i really stopped doing anything that i enjoyed when i was at my worst. This is a very common characteristic of depression sufferers. But even seeing a movie for me gave me some relief (i love movies and just doing this took my attention away from my disorder). Try to keep going in life and consicously try to keep in mind to do things you enjoy everyday.

Thats my list for now - hope it helps. Good luck all.

DB
 

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DB, I'm thrilled for you! And I agree with every one of your points. 100%. I think I'm slowly turning another corner, granted at age 45, but hey, it's never too late.

I'm not cured, but things I believe are looking better. So glad to hear this about you!

Take Care,
D :shock:
 
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Wowzer.

Congratulations, DRBeattie! That is just magnificient.

I made this thread a "sticky" as your words are perfect evidence that people can recover and every single thing you mentioned as helping you is just spot on.

Peace,
and again, SO happy to hear this,
Janine
 
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I feel that l-gluatmine saved me from my previous dp episode when i was younger and can help if dissolved under the tongue.
Under the tongue... no-one ever tells me ANYTHING. I ate it like sherbet.

I dont think my DP will EVER go... damn you.

I refuse to take medication anymore - It wont help me. 9 years of neuroleptics and serotonin inhibitors and it didn't go... stuff you all.

What happens if you have ECT while you're in DP or DR because the Doctor doesn't believe you? Does it mess up your sense of self?

If I have DP (I'm going for my appt in Jan) does that mean that my underlying thing is ANXIETY, and "expressing emotions"/being highly emotional???
Is what I "am" overly anxious???
 
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thankyou sooo much! im not quite over my dp (im not even sure if i have it, kinda self diagnosed) but just reading your post has given me hope as i lay in bed trying to sleep :D
 
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Thanks so much for the great advice. I am having a lot of trouble right now and I need to read and learn all I can to help myself. I think I should go for therapy but like many others, I am afraid to tell anyone who is a professional, in case they don't believe me and just give me anti-depressants and send me on my way. Congrats on getting through it - I hope I can, too.
 

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I feel that l-gluatmine saved me from my previous dp episode when i was younger and can help if dissolved under the tongue.
Under the tongue... no-one ever tells me ANYTHING. I ate it like sherbet.

I dont think my DP will EVER go... damn you.

I refuse to take medication anymore - It wont help me. 9 years of neuroleptics and serotonin inhibitors and it didn't go... stuff you all.

What happens if you have ECT while you're in DP or DR because the Doctor doesn't believe you? Does it mess up your sense of self?

If I have DP (I'm going for my appt in Jan) does that mean that my underlying thing is ANXIETY, and "expressing emotions"/being highly emotional???
Is what I "am" overly anxious???
Don't get angry my friend. We're all in this together. (Most of us anyway) I've had DP ever since I was 12, and it has been with me for 14 DAMNED YEARS. And what's more, the person who beat me into a state of DP is my OWN FATHER, who, even now, stays in the same house I do.

I won't say the cure will come. Giving myself a false sense of hope makes it even harder to accept the possibility that it may stick with me till the very day I die. I take vitamins and supplements, lots of them (Multi-vit, zinc, gingko, omega oils, mega B, + a joint supplement), but I realise non of them really help.

I won't say the shrinks will help. The shrinks in Singapore (Where I'm from) Suck. They think too highly of themselves, and think that anyone who tells them they're feeling unreal and describe DP are just being childish.

The shrinks are afflicted with terrible "normality", to the point where they only see normal people, and think that everyone's normal, and people like us just refuse to be normal. I personally know people who tell me 'depression is optional - it's their OWN FAULT THEY'RE DEPRESSED'. I hate people like that.

But I will say this : Irregardless of whether or not we will find a cure, life goes on. Time slips us by even as we rage at our sub-consciousness. So don't get dejected or pissed off. Just live, and continue to live your life. It's a fight we all must fight, win...or lose.
 

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The onset of DP can be brought on by drugs, LSD, ectasy, dope, etc also abuse or violence in childhood, most believe that sufferers are prone to it, spend to much time internalising problems, issues, scenarios, etc and dp is the brain safety mechanism to it all. The problem is when this feeling of unreality becomes permanent and you just can't shake it. It becomes a dehabilating hell.........

Good luck
 

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half the notices ive seen up on this board are about people who have taken drugs and have dp/dr cos of it ..... well yeah thats understandable its a drug its well known to muck with your brain but what about people like me ive had dp/dr since i were 6 :cry:
and i have no recollection as to why its started?????????
 
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I've had DP since age 6 too.. also no recollection as to why. I just remember suddenly the foreground dissappeared into the background. I was walking along the fence and all of a sudden I was in a movie, and I've never really been the same. Been 26 years now, and finally the right diagnosis 2 years ago. I'm not sure there is a cure, but I keep plugging away. The latest attempt is remeron. Still have nightmares, but at least I sleep through them. I think it's making the DP worse though. I'm going to try the vitamin b6 supplement. anything but giving up!
 
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Hi, everyone.

I've been reading this forum for a few months now, and have found some really helpful advice. The one that I wanted to chime in on is to stop fighting the dp, and start dismissing it as "it's just dp." I've been to a total of six therapists about mine now, and the one I started seeing most recently recommended a book called "Brain Lock," that's mostly related to OCD, but with plenty of overlap. This therapist specializes in dissociative disorders, and said that the dp comes from an obsessive thought disorder. I think that's true, since the sense of unreality and stupor seem to go along with a loud static of thoughts.

The book talks about "relabelling," which means looking at the dp thoughts as they come, and saying "that's just dp." If you're like me, the thoughts are pretty hard to pin down, since there are so many and they come so fast and thick, but the process has been working a little in the last couple of days. It's just a matter of sticking with it, and not getting too cozy in my dp, which it's definitely possible to do. Anyway, have a great day.
 
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But according to the book,where does the obsessive thought disorder come from? Is dp supposed to be the outcome of ocd? And don't many people have dp along with another mental/emotional disorder, so that maybe this book is good for people with ocd conjoined with dp? But maybe it wouldn't apply to people with other disorders conjoined with dp? I don't think I have ocd though my thoughts often recycle themselves. I feel like I have a bit of many disorders and dp.
 

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TRUE!!! VERY TRUE!!!

i have dp/dr, anxiety, panic attacks, agrophobia ( when it gets real bad), depression!!!!

my doctors have also i have a personality disorder ermmmm wouldnt you mate if you suffered with all of the above lol jezzzzzzzz!!! :D
 

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The book talks about "relabelling," which means looking at the dp thoughts as they come, and saying "that's just dp."
that just reminded me, about 6 years ago i used to see a psychologist at school, and he told me to use this exact technique for OCD, i think it ended up working. :)

im gonna start using it again.
 
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