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I'm making this post to ask a question that's been on my mind recently. I want you to really think deeply and answer these questions.

What's stopping you from healing from DPDR?

What do you believe you need to heal from DPDR 100%?

Do you even believe it's possible to heal?

Curious to hear your thoughts.
 

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Its different from person to person. Some people here have had it for several years or all of their lives. I still think it comes down to anxiety and some people have anxiety disorders that are so ingrained, they live their whole lives being anxious on some level which holds them from healing. I am personally in a stressful period of my life where I hit a wall from ignoring my needs. I'm confident that once I fix these needs and take better care of myself, I will be healed just like I did 3 years ago.
 

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Its different from person to person. Some people here have had it for several years or all of their lives. I still think it comes down to anxiety and some people have anxiety disorders that are so ingrained, they live their whole lives being anxious on some level which holds them from healing. I am personally in a stressful period of my life where I hit a wall from ignoring my needs. I'm confident that once I fix these needs and take better care of myself, I will be healed just like I did 3 years ago.

Good stuff man.
 

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I don't know what's stopping me from healing from DP/DR, or I'd do it and be healed. That's a bit of a silly question. Closest thing I can say is that I have 5-10 second episodes where I don't have DP/DR, so not knowing what causes those could be holding me back.

I believe I need to heal 100% because DP/DR is the inability to experience life. It's not living, so it can never be considered liveable until it's gone.

Is it possible to heal? For some definitely, for others... I hope so, but I think realistically a small proportion of everyone with DP/DR are fucked forever. As I go into my 12th month with this shit that's looking increasingly likely.
 

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I don't know what's stopping me from healing from DP/DR, or I'd do it and be healed. That's a bit of a silly question. Closest thing I can say is that I have 5-10 second episodes where I don't have DP/DR, so not knowing what causes those could be holding me back.

I believe I need to heal 100% because DP/DR is the inability to experience life. It's not living, so it can never be considered liveable until it's gone.

Is it possible to heal? For some definitely, for others... I hope so, but I think realistically a small proportion of everyone with DP/DR are fucked forever. As I go into my 12th month with this shit that's looking increasingly likely.
I was gonna say the first thing but I didn’t want to be a naysayer to the dudes question. I have those tiny episodes without dp too, it seems like dp dr vanishes as soon as a particular type of hyper awareness vanishes. And as soon as you notice dp is gone, effort is taken to maintain the good state without it and therefore you’re back in dp? So dp is a continuous struggle of some kind happening mentally…. That’s just a rough outline of what’s happening obviously but I believe it’s the closest I’ve gotten to understanding what’s happening
 

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I don't know what's stopping me from recovering, I don't know what I need nor if it's possible for everybody to heal, but for sure I keep trying. One problem I believe is important for me is that I am almost always trying to use intellect,intellectual effort and or ego to try to solve problems. Even when I acknowledge that my overusing intellect is a problem, all the solutions that come to mind turn into something intellectual. And then I go in a loop of thinking "maybe this/that is the solution, I am going to push this method to the maximum, I am going to master it, I am going to be the best at this, I am going to be the opposite of DPDR forever, let's find exercises that I can start doing right now and I will do them all the time and I am going to become the best at recovering, I am going to write a book about this". These are usually he kinds of thoughts I get in just a few seconds after finding something I can try, and I am just slightly exagerating. Usually it stops when I push this too far and I get fed up with my own mind. But after a while it starts again. But it's not because I feel like this comes from me (as opposed to an intrusive thought) that I know I must be able to have control over it. A lot of these techniques I find do seem to help me, but I prefer to just relax and be and enjoy that moment when I get fed up and it gets quiet for a while. None of all this has a tremendous effect on my DPDR though, just a little.
 

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I don't know what's stopping me from recovering, I don't know what I need nor if it's possible for everybody to heal, but for sure I keep trying. One problem I believe is important for me is that I am almost always trying to use intellect,intellectual effort and or ego to try to solve problems. Even when I acknowledge that my overusing intellect is a problem, all the solutions that come to mind turn into something intellectual. And then I go in a loop of thinking "maybe this/that is the solution, I am going to push this method to the maximum, I am going to master it, I am going to be the best at this, I am going to be the opposite of DPDR forever, let's find exercises that I can start doing right now and I will do them all the time and I am going to become the best at recovering, I am going to write a book about this". These are usually he kinds of thoughts I get in just a few seconds after finding something I can try, and I am just slightly exagerating. Usually it stops when I push this too far and I get fed up with my own mind. But after a while it starts again. But it's not because I feel like this comes from me (as opposed to an intrusive thought) that I know I must be able to have control over it. A lot of these techniques I find do seem to help me, but I prefer to just relax and be and enjoy that moment when I get fed up and it gets quiet for a while. None of all this has a tremendous effect on my DPDR though, just a little.
Ive cycled through that insanity too, in my own way, it is insanity to swear that this or that is the solution and then to drop it and eventually move onto another solution or thought. It’s doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. It doesn’t even matter what insight you have, if it’s turned into a method of repeated to yourself it’s worthless. That’s why I’d preach what I did. Yeah, even in knowing all that you can still overthink and fall, once I would see that OCD is making me try hard to avoid what I’m afraid of (depersonalization), if I try push it away then paradoxically it pushed me towards the edge more and more and crashes me into DP. But if I don’t react, my mind doesn’t fall and nothing happens
 

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I have to say it's stress hormones that cause the depersonalization and derealization. I think in my case, it is.
It's always around when I get too stressed.

The first episode was at 21 years old 20 years ago. I had a chain of terrifying panic attacks.

The second time was in klonopin withdrawal in my early 30's. I expected it though, because the body goes into flight or fight mode after stopping psych meds.

The fourth time was due to stress of nursing school at 37 years old.

This time, it's stress at 43.

Ppl seem to think dr and dp only happen to adolescents. Not true.

Idk how long it will last this time. I wish it would go, but nothing I can do.

I refuse to take any medication because of what I anticipated with psych meds. Some ppl benefit from them, but I'm not one of them. The Klonopin did help for a good several years until it started making me sick.

With me, it's all cortisol related. When my stress hormones ramp up, my brain goes into no emotions zone.

I will say the past 2 months, I have seen gradual improvements...but still not myself.
 

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I don't know what's stopping me from healing from DP/DR, or I'd do it and be healed. That's a bit of a silly question. Closest thing I can say is that I have 5-10 second episodes where I don't have DP/DR, so not knowing what causes those could be holding me back.

I believe I need to heal 100% because DP/DR is the inability to experience life. It's not living, so it can never be considered liveable until it's gone.

Is it possible to heal? For some definitely, for others... I hope so, but I think realistically a small proportion of everyone with DP/DR are fucked forever. As I go into my 12th month with this shit that's looking increasingly likely.
Damn that's a long time. I'm worried about the same thing and I'm only 2 weeks in to knowing whats going on. The thought of this being forever is.... f that.
 
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