Hey ben,
Since i cant find my notepad on this comp i have to paste your reply
on here, and i'll asnwer each one as i go along.
It's funny, i linked my post to someone and asked if he knew what i meant, cause i had a feeling it may be confusing
I have difficulty putting words together to have it makes sense to others.
And instead of logic i use creativity, but I understand there can be instances where it shouldn't be used. I try to avoid those
MoreBeingMe,
I'm afraid I'm a bit lost on your post; so I'll try to talk to you the best I can, though - I probably am going to miss a couple points.
First off, I'm not totally sure I understand what you mean by the following comment:
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Do you think were just derealized from the lives were used to living and feeling? Or do you think were dped to everything?
I think what you're getting at is whether we really have attained some kind of higher plain or "trascendental state" here, and the thoughts we're feeling are a result of that...is that kind of what you're asking here?
~ Well what I was first thinking was, maybe we are just "numb" to our normal way of life, like our society. But some have prooved me possible to be numb to all. I know when I get my self in new situations and environments i feel better.
But I can accept that it's possible we have a higher inteligence when we have this state of mind, and i know we (Sorry soulbro in your terms sub that with... "Me and possibly some others")
are very deep thinkers. And it's even more deep when you think about "why are we here" kind of stuff.
I've always wondered if it's the thoughts that come first then the perspective, or the perspective and then the thoughts.
Some one told me thats just like the chicken and the egg
But I belive at least for me that is, that my thoughts come first
and then create a fitting perspective. So think lovely thoughts
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For me I feel like theres more to life than "life"
like life looks menaingless to me, but there are things out there that feel pointfull, but they are things not in life.
I'm not sure I understand this either. In my opinion - and this won't be shared by others, I'm sure (and that's great - I'm not arguing any point here) - all that is meaningful to life is that which is defined as meaningful by life, in other words, we have defined the very meaning of meaning. For example, last time I went to England (well, it was Wales at that time, actually), I took a cobblestone from the street near the house where I summer'ed to serve as a reminder of that time. I still have it. However, people that look at it would think "WTF?" - and have absolutely no clue why I have a dumb looking rock on my dresser. I added the meaning there. To others it's meaningless.
~Yeah like that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
What someone see's another person may veiw differently.
I would be the one with the rock in my room
Or if i saw it in your room, i would say "whats that?"
And then when you told me I would think "thats cool"
Don't confuse that with my thinking everythings cool that others talk about cause i don't have a mind and opinion of my own
What I think I meant.. (since this is a different day than the day i started this post i don't feel any connection to the me that typed it, only the memories i have left. But i'll explain to you what i think now, and it may be the same thing as in my first post...
Well it's so hard to explain cause i think you have a more reality logic look to life, and can't think beyond that. "Life is everything"
( i can't think of any other word than that
)
When i have derealization (like i do today)
I feel like there's more than "existance"
like something else other than this universe.
In my logic mind i'm sure there's not. But it's my way of explaining how i
feel in life. But I'm sure if i felt like i was "here" in life contagious to everything like family, freinds, love...etc
I would probably have a different veiw, and one where i feel like i can move on with it, continue living. Sometimes i get in this "state of mind"
where i feel shocked thinking that there was a time i didn't want to hold on to life, it's a state where i want to embrace it and never let go, i felt like i could go on for years and years.
But with this "state" where i feel like my awareness is too high it's hard to keep assured that i'll be able to make it to the next day.
But "adventures" help me, things that aren't everyday things.
I can't stant routines.
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I feel much better when i see life as a whole, like "thats all there is, but its more than we could ever ask for.
I think what you're trying to say here is that if you look at the world from a rather non-partial, observer's angle, then things feel better for you; which makes sense as it still has a distancing effect. Whatever happens, happens - you say - and the act of which gives you calm. And if that's what you're saying, then I agree with you.
Well i'm not sure what angle i see it in, but it may be from an observer since i'm too aware of everything, but also numb too. (don't ask me how that works, i 'm thinking maybe i have a different awareness then i would have if i felt in reality)
Yes i would feel better and more calm if i didn't observe life so much.
I think subconciously i'm trying to find the answers to why i feel this way, what it is excatly i have, and what it is i'm "meant" to have
I like to think of life as there being nothing else than life/existence
And that i feel ok to be in it.
Or it may be ok for me to still think there's more to life, but that i belong "here"
I like that one better it's easier to adjust too
So I hope i explained that well enough
Now i must turn off my logic side and slip back into creatvity
