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50 mg is kind of a lot just to get to sleep.
If I had taken 50 mg as a starting dose it would have knocked me unconscious.
But .. if it works for you, why not I'd say.
 
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I started with 15 mg, but I quickly developed a tolerance to the drug.
Besides it did help calm me down. It helped with the dp too, but just for a very short time. I got used to it too quickly.
 
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I quickly developed a tolerance to the drug
Me too, within a few weeks I had to up the dose.
This is the reason I need other meds and 50 mgr is really the maximum.
Funny you had that too.
 

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wendy

what do you mean that without oxazepam you cant go to therapy?
 
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pdr, I wasnt clear on that. When I dont take Oxazepam (or another med for sleep) I wont sleep or have enough sleep to go through and handle a weeks therapy (Im in grouptherapy 4 days a week).
I think that wasnt clear.lol
 

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sorry to bombard you with questions but what sleep medication is your doctor going to give you instead of a benzo?
 
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Wendy you go to therapy 4 days a week??? damn how do you pay for that??? Does it help???

thats ALOT of therapy
 
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pdr, Im prescribed Trazolan but I think thats the Dutch name.
I havent tried it yet. I will look up the international name, if you wanna know.

SoulBrotha, the therapy is covered by my insurance.
We have a special budget here in Holland for these kinds of things.
Im lucky. I know in other countries this is not possible.
Its working, but its hard and it IS a lot.
Its grouptherapy, it works different than individual therapy.
I have individual therapy as well once a week.
Its especially for people with Borderline PD and/or Complex PTSD, which takes a lot of work and time to treat, hence 4 days a week.
 
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pdr, I looked it up, I think its called Trazolan as well in other countries.
Its an anti-depressant that is also used for sleeping problems, it has sedating effects.
 
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Wow, yeah, that is ALOT of oxy there, my friend. The thing is this: sleeping agents aggravate aspects of dp. It's not the end of the world, and I totally understand needing the sleep to cope with the intensity during the week, etc. It's only that the sudden "oh, my God, the world just shifted" feelings of instant derealization or dp can be encouraged by reactions to sleeping pills.

Anything that enhances altered states of consciousness (pushing the person INTO one state such as sleeping from waking) is going to "loosen" the doorway to dp states as well. I dont' think it's any permanent effect, but the reason I caution against them is that for someone who is mostly doing well, but still has bouts of sudden onset feelings of unreality throughout the day - sleeping pills are probably the culprit. But you'll take it as long as you need to, and may notice once you quit that some of the dp goes away, too.

Peace,
sweet dreams,
Janine

p.s. If I was in "group" four days a week, I might need a pill to sleep, too. lol
 

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Some of the older docs(over 60) will prescribe phenobarbital for sleep. trazolane which in the states is called trazadone is an AD thats came between the tricyclics and the SSRI's.At least this is what my doc told me. I have taken trazadone but it leaves me pretty groogy in the morning. I also think that the sleep meds make my DR worse the next day.
 

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trazadone made me feel as if id had an epidural, yes it helps u sleep, but if dosage is too high and u wake up for the toilet its really hard to walk, i almost wet the bed on that,but saying that different meds effect people in different ways
 
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Thanks guys for all the replies and thanks Janine for your opinion on it. I'll keep it in mind.
Concerning the Trazolane/Trazadone, I will give them a try (also since I have no other option this moment, Id rather do without any meds for my nights thats for sure!).
 
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