[Guest]

I've realized lately that I know how to tune into DP/DR but don't know how to tune out of it.

Is anyone else experiencing that? It's slightly odd. Not worrisome, just strange.

 

[dreamcatcher]

I THINK THATS THE PROBLEM MOST OF US HERE HAVE........WEVE TUNNED INTO IT SO WELL THAT WE CANT GET SHUT OF IT......I WISH I KNEW HOW TO TUNE OUT...DISTRACTION ONLY HELPS SHORT TERM....I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING PERMANENT

 

[Kelson12]

If I could tune it out...I wouldn't be here on this site!!!!

Kelson

 

[Guest]

What I meant is that when I don't have DP/DR when I'm distracted or just feeling good, I know how to consciously bring it about... but not how to make it stop.

It's like having a DP/DR switch that you know how to turn on but not turn off. Like, I now know how I AM THE ONE bringing it on but I can't figure out how to be the one that shuts it off.

Distraction does help. The whole day at work today I told myself that as soon as I'd get a weird thought/symptom, I'd tell myself that it's just anxiety and keep on doing whatever I was doing. As a result, I didn't have DP/DR the whole day but I'm feeling it coming on now as I'm getting tired from the fluorescent lights in my office, from the work itself etc.

 

[Guest]

hello? I'm new....

 

[Guest]

I have DP/DR all day every day and I don't know what to do.....

 

[Misty]

I know what you mean. If I don't think about it, it just comes and goes when it feels like it, but when I do think about it, it comes on strong. Like we have a key to turn it on when ever but no key to turn it off even when we didn't think about turning it on. It's a little weird to understand, but I can do it too. So you are not alone :wink:

 

[Guest]

Tidal, I think that is a VERy good sign, only because I also went through that phase.

There came a point where I remember saying to my analyst "well....we've found the "ON" switch, for what it's worth," LOL...

I had finally realized, FULLY realized for me personally, what "triggered" the onslaught of the self dissolving...and even without freaking myself out, I could sort of "step INTO deeper dp states" purely by thinking certain thoughts and "following" them inside my mind/brain...as if I was going down a tunnel, a "place" it almost felt like.

And yes, I didn't have the EXIT door marked either, had no clue how to turn it around, but the idea that I had for the first time really seen the correlation between MY thoughts and the horror of this state...I saw that I was bringing it on, bringing myself INTO it.

That marked a huge bridge for me. Knowing, seeing first hand that it was something with a reason behind it, not just some brain spasm....was the beginning of real recovery.

That's not to say that "BLAM" I was recovered....still had a long way to go. But it was a pivotal phase.

And don't keep DOING it to yourself, lol. That can't be a good idea. But it's very cool that you see more of the process that takes you there.

 

[Guest]

hello? I'm new....

I have DP/DR all day every day and I don't know what to do.....

Hey...How are you.

Write in the introductions thread, or post a topic on yourself, dajj...

 

[Guest]

I tuned in dr/dp almost 8 years ago, never been out of it...

And, You're OK WITH THATT???

"tuned in"...

I "need" a CONCRETE thought to help me decipher all this... puh-lease.

 

[Guest]

Find something you know to be true, completely true. Use that as a wedge to open the door, a brick to build a new relation with the world upon.

Normally for me it is a relationship with other people. If I know exactly who they are, how they feel about me, or find a true sense of order in the world, that one truth becomes a vine I can climb out of the de-per with.

It's like what Hemmingway said about writing. "Just find one true sentence" and the rest will come.

Don't be afraid.

 

[Guest]

Find something you know to be true, completely true. Use that as a wedge to open the door, a brick to build a new relation with the world upon.

Normally for me it is a relationship with other people. If I know exactly who they are, how they feel about me, or find a true sense of order in the world, that one truth becomes a vine I can climb out of the de-per with.

It's like what Hemmingway said about writing. "Just find one true sentence" and the rest will come.

Don't be afraid.

Fear is what will make me crumble.

FEAR

I think we're all romantics here. True romantics...romantic "notions" WILL fry you...and send your life spiralling. My extremist tendancy for romantic thinking is why my world crumbles into dust.

If I could EXORCISE or lobotomise my romance, I'd survive this. I cant survive "life" once my full blown romantic thinking has been triggered.

 

[sleepingbeauty]

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me
and through me. And when it has gone past,
I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.

Only I will remain.

 

[Guest]

How can we "prove" that we have this? How does a Doctor KNOW we have this?

Why are we all acting "fetal" (*curls up*)

Is this called "infantile" behaviour, SIMPLE behaviour?

I'm unhinged again..I wish I could control how "unhinged" I get..Give me ELECTRO-SHOCKK

 

[Misty]

The Doctor's know we have this because of the DSM IV: The fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It has every mental disorder, and then underneth is a list of symptoms. If you have all the sympoms then you are diagnosed with that mental illness. Kinda a sucky way to be diagnosed, but that is how they are doing it now in the USA. I don't know how they do it in other parts of the world.

For example: If you were to go to the doctors office and complain of all the symptoms you have right now. He would grap this book, look through it for disassociative disorders and if all your symptoms matched Depersonalization then you would be diagnosed.

Ghost, I just love all your little pictures. They are so cute!!!

 

[Guest]

The Doctor's know we have this because of the DSM IV: The fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It has every mental disorder, and then underneth is a list of symptoms. If you have all the sympoms then you are diagnosed with that mental illness. Kinda a sucky way to be diagnosed, but that is how they are doing it now in the USA. I don't know how they do it in other parts of the world.

For example: If you were to go to the doctors office and complain of all the symptoms you have right now. He would grap this book, look through it for disassociative disorders and if all your symptoms matched Depersonalization then you would be diagnosed.

Ghost, I just love all your little pictures. They are so cute!!!

What pictures?

Um. We have the DSM IV too...

I'm a little peeved. Hello, I'm Ghost,
I'm a:
Chronic Undifferentiated Schizophrenia
Borderline Personality Disorder
Paranoid Psychoses
Anxiety Disorder
Suicidal Depression
Asperger's Syndrome

My old Medical Doctor told me She thought I had a "Schizoid" Disorder.
My old Naturopath said I was BORN with Schizophrenia.

Um. Am I "allowed" to be offended by these Diagnoses? Or, "proud"?

I'M NOT "REFUTING" ANYTHING!!! I'm proud O' myself!
I'm an EXTREMILY "proud" ..Schizophrenic.

I'm very "helped".. and "alleviated" by these WONDERFULL, DSMIV "Diagnoses"..I'm pretty "impressive"!!! (*LOCK UP YOUR CHILDREN!!!*)

Yes, Misty, the "safe" Doctors owned a copy of the DSMIV.

I'm sure I fulfill ALL the requirements for my current file of:
Chronic Undifferentiated Schizophrenia, Borderline Personality Disorder, Paranoid Psychoses, Anxiety Disorder, Suicidal Depression, Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm sure all the symptoms are there...not like these are just diagnoses that DISAPPEAR, huh?

I'm sure you're a Schizophrenic for life, a BPD for life etc.

I'm sure the Doctors were trying to "help", I'm sure they were
(DONT EVER ASK ME WHY I HATE DOCTORS)

 

[Misty]

The pictures I was refering to were you Avatars. I just love them.

I'm a hyporcondric so I think every little thing is wrong with me. So I know a little about where your coming from. I just wish I could find a doctor who will actually listen to my complants instead of just giving me a pill. Maybe I really do have something and they never listen.

I don't know what it's like to have all those diagnosis, but we are all here for you when ever you need to talk. We all love you Ghost, and wish you the best. :wink:

 

[Guest]

The pictures I was refering to were you Avatars. I just love them.

I'm a hyporcondric so I think every little thing is wrong with me. So I know a little about where your coming from. I just wish I could find a doctor who will actually listen to my complants instead of just giving me a pill. Maybe I really do have something and they never listen.

I don't know what it's like to have all those diagnosis, but we are all here for you when ever you need to talk. We all love you Ghost, and wish you the best. :wink:

HaHA! AhHHHHHHH