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Do anyone can see like ghost while moving hand in front of face? Its like whan u are in dark room and u have a light that illuminates your hand or anything tah is white and if u move your hand it leaves like a ghost that follow the hand? I can see pnly one "ghost" I dont know if its normal or no.. idk...
 

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<3 Realy? :D So u mean that people with dp/dr can see this ghost behind iluminated things ?:D its like i move hand and few centimeters behind, this litle white ghost follows :D And there is only just one :D
yes, but it can occur in many different conditions. This includes HPPD, psychosis, schizophrenia, head trauma, seizure activity, migraines, and dp/dr.
 

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I do, but i'd say this fits more into HPPD which CAN comes with DP.

I've found it fades, slowly. My ghosting hasn't gone away totally but i did myself a major favour and basically got my phone out and twirled it in a circle in the dark nightly, did this for a probably 4 months, it got some better, but also the anxiety of it happening got to 0, before it was a major anxiety thing, mine use to go in slow motion where the light would jump out the phone and take 3 seconds to come back in, it was like casper the ghost, it was so surreal.

I made it no big deal as i basically got myself use to it, being part of normal day life and I actually got HPPD symptoms in a different situation that DP.

Getting use to it was a major game changer, now I still have it, but i very rarely notice it, not even once a day. I still have it, if i look for it. Conditioning to me is the key, honestly playing with my phone for 20 minutes a day made it feel normal and the anxiety that came with it faded it to zero, once it's gone, it really doesn't matter. Hard to imagine but it just doesn't, it's a bit of light dragging at the end of the day, with no emotional conflict it really doesn't matter, some people have it from birth. So much so that if i had a wife tomorrow, it would take years before it might come up, it's really not on my mind, even when it happens. It's not because I am great, it's just because it's like having a phone in my pocket, it's nothing i consider...

It becomes a bit of a joke, wow the light is going round, oh.. who cares anyway... and eventuality where i am now, a trial happens, moving my laptop in the dark and it just seems normal and i've stopped caring... some things you can't change, but if you accept them and then learn to get past them, they don't control or effect a single moment and trust me at the start, i thought it was a massive deal, wanted it to go back to normal, acceptance basically, your biggest friend. It might fade to nothing and it might not, but if you don't care either way, your strength is right there.
 

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I do, but i'd say this fits more into HPPD which CAN comes with DP.

I've found it fades, slowly. My ghosting hasn't gone away totally but i did myself a major favour and basically got my phone out and twirled it in a circle in the dark nightly, did this for a probably 4 months, it got some better, but also the anxiety of it happening got to 0, before it was a major anxiety thing, mine use to go in slow motion where the light would jump out the phone and take 3 seconds to come back in, it was like casper the ghost, it was so surreal.

I made it no big deal as i basically got myself use to it, being part of normal day life and I actually got HPPD symptoms in a different situation that DP.

Getting use to it was a major game changer, now I still have it, but i very rarely notice it, not even once a day. I still have it, if i look for it. Conditioning to me is the key, honestly playing with my phone for 20 minutes a day made it feel normal and the anxiety that came with it faded it to zero, once it's gone, it really doesn't matter. Hard to imagine but it just doesn't, it's a bit of light dragging at the end of the day, with no emotional conflict it really doesn't matter, some people have it from birth. So much so that if i had a wife tomorrow, it would take years before it might come up, it's really not on my mind, even when it happens. It's not because I am great, it's just because it's like having a phone in my pocket, it's nothing i consider...

It becomes a bit of a joke, wow the light is going round, oh.. who cares anyway... and eventuality where i am now, a trial happens, moving my laptop in the dark and it just seems normal and i've stopped caring... some things you can't change, but if you accept them and then learn to get past them, they don't control or effect a single moment and trust me at the start, i thought it was a massive deal, wanted it to go back to normal, acceptance basically, your biggest friend. It might fade to nothing and it might not, but if you don't care either way, your strength is right there.
Have you tried lsd or something?
 

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Its been said before that HPPD can start even years after the initial drug trip. So its possible, but unlikely if it was that long ago.
2 month sice last trip. And i I have read aaaalot of "hppd" and btw it gave me more anxiety ;P . Ppl with HPPD always describe them as a a series of images that follow something (hand for exmp)

I cant see tracers even behind fast moving cars.. i can wave my hand at front of my face and i cant see shiet BUT If its dim in the room and something is iluminating the hand and then i wave i can see this ghost type image (and its not my whole hand) just illuminated part! Important is that i dont follow my hand with eyes i focus on the black surface. I watch hand with my peripheral.
 

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2 month sice last trip. And i I have read aaaalot of "hppd" and btw it gave me more anxiety ;P but I could not see anything like "Shadow" type tracer. Ppl allways describe them as a a series of images that follow something (hand for exmp)
I cant see tracers even behind fast moving cars.. i can wave my hand at front of my face and i cant see shiet BUT If its dim in the room and something is iluminating the hand and then i wave i can see this ghost type image (and its not my whole hand) just illuminated part! Important is that i dont follow my hand with eyes i focus on the black surface. I watch hand with my peripheral.
If it was only 2 months ago, then its completely possible that the lsd triggered not only the HPPD, but the symptoms of dp/dr too.
 

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If it was only 2 months ago, then its completely possible that the lsd triggered not only the HPPD, but the symptoms of dp/dr too.
Amm sorry it was almost 3 (+ some days) months ago. Btw HPPD cant trigger dp/dr symptoms coz dp/dr is caused by anxiety. HPPD is visual disorder not mental disorder. U can get dp/dr because of fear of changes in your vision. Dp dr are 100% related to anxiety. And btw i dont have any other symptoms, nothing moves.. i can read with out any problem. I cant see any flashes, Colors dont change, i dont have VS (i have a litle but every one has in some degree, (my is normal)
 

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If it was only 2 months ago, then its completely possible that the lsd triggered not only the HPPD, but the symptoms of dp/dr too.
And no 2 months after the last trip i was feeling normal. But then i read about hppd and i started reading stories of ppl with hppd scared me so much :p the feeling that i could destroy my life was horrible. I was shaking in my bad that im going crazy what was stupi coz untill then i was feeling great.
 

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And no 2 months after the last trip i was feeling normal. But then i read about hppd and i started reading stories of ppl with hppd scared me so much :p the feeling that i could destroy my life was horrible. I was shaking in my bad that im going crazy what was stupi coz untill then i was feeling great.
Well there's alot of overlap in this area. Between HPPD, dp/dr, there's alot of similarities. Dp/dr and HPPD can both be triggered by lsd, AND can have a delayed onset. This means it could be months until you start to experience symptoms of dp/dr and hppd affer the initial trip. Its happened before even on this site. Many times in fact. HPPD cannot trigger dp/dr like you said, but they are usually associated with one another and HPPD can even produce feelings of dp/dr temporarily. What you describe sounds maybe like mild DR or mild HPPD. You said you didnt experience any visual snow or things "moving". Those are two hallmark symptoms of HPPD, so you may not even have it.
 

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as far as I know, scientists say that most likely hppd can occur after a maximum of 2 weeks, usualy IT after one day. Cases of occurrence after a month, for example, hardly lays under hppd
 

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as far as I know, scientists say that most likely hppd can occur after a maximum of 2 weeks, usualy IT after one day. Cases of occurrence after a month, for example, hardly lays under hppd
HPPD isnt very well understood yet. But trust me when I say Ive seen cases even on this site where people had one trip on mushrooms then months later developed dp/dr and/or hppd. I also speak from experience. My very own HPPD symptoms didnt begin until about one month after my trip. It wasnt LSD but many different substances can cause HPPD.

https://www.healthline.com/health/hppd
 
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