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Top 8 Mistakes DP/DRers make :)

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I am the first one who never believed in psychological therapies and I will always be sceptical about most of them, BUT DP/DR IS EXCEPTION.

The Holy Grail Of Curing DP/DR really literally solves it...it beats DP/DR completely, yes, to a point where you literally can't even remember what DP/DR used to feel like, but instead you just remember it as "something that felt awfully awkward and awkwardly awful".

Here is my personal opinion on the top 8 mistakes that DP/DR people make when trying to cure their DP/DR:

1.Not getting physically examined.

Get your blood/stool/urine/skin/amino acids/minerals/vitamins/hormons tests done!!!! at least 40% of my DP/DR was due to Lysine and Zinc deficiency.

For many it was Sleep Apnea that caused it entirely or for the most part.

2.Neglecting other mental disorders that may have caused DP/DR in the first place (DP/DR is nothing but a branch of anxiety).

Visit a psychiatrist and of course always seek for a natural solution first and then if it doesn't work, take your psychiatrist's advice.

3.Not creating conditions for healing DP/DR.

You can't expect to not be anxious at least on a subconscious level if you have some serious life problems. First solve them all and then once fine with your life, beating DP/DR is actually very easy. As long as you have some serious, severe life problems that really bother you your anxiety will always reoccur for sure and in turn possibly even provoke DP/DR again.

4.Not enough sleep or poor sleeping patterns.

Just as it's mentioned in The Holy Grail Of Curing DP/DR, 8 hours of sleep is the best, because it is not too much but not too little either. Lay as early as you can.

If you notice that daytime naps trigger DP/DR, avoid them (for me daytime naps were the number 1 trigger and for some others they actually helped, so determine on your own).

5.Feeling guilty/anxious about beign relaxed. (this was my biggest misatke :D)

Thoughts like these - "Oh should I really relax at a time like this!? Or should I perhaps relax a bit more!? Oh wait! What if I relax too much!?" will only put your attention back on DP/DR and will make you more anxious.

RELAX!!! Being at peace never brought any harm to anyone, you can be sure about that.

I know I know it is kind of hard to calm down with all those worries, but trust me, your body and mind will start picking up the calm mindset with the time.

It's one of those things that is very hard to start, but once you slip into the first "calm day" it will gradually become easier and easier, then the time will iron it all out and once out of DP/DR, you'll be thinking - "how the heck did I manage to feel that way in the first place?!" :)

6.Spending too much time alone in your room in front of your PC.

This doesn't mean you should get freaked out if you worked for 8 hours on your PC (I am into CG and IT myself) or if you played some Final Fantasy/Command And Conquer like games for couple of hours (come on, those franchises are way too awesome! :D) it is ok, it just means that you should GO OUTSIDE SOMETIMES FOR CHRIST SAKE! :D Refresh contacts with your friends, make new friends, pick good people as your friends, get rid of bad "friends", be a good person, fall in love etc.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Although it is not something you should be freaked about, the speed of your recovery definitely depends on how much you avoid being alone and spending time on surfing and reading creepy stories like ours :D

7.Being a crybaby about a relapse or a bad day.

I am the sorest loser you will EVER MEET. PERIOD. Yet I learned to be fine with occasional relapses which helped me soooo much. These days I don't even remember when those relapses have happened.

8.Thinking about DP/DR, then thinking about thinking about DP/DR, then thinking about what your dog who's name is Bob btw (did I guess? :D) thinks about you having DP/DR while playing Red Alert 2 and would he bite you if he knew that you were using dog units as a cannon fodder in the game...then getting anxious about it all and then get depressed about being anxious and then getting angry about feeling all of that again and then AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I hope you see the pattern :)

So just think less, and live more! Everything is going to be fine, and no, Bob is not going to bite you :)

Just for the record, I never went to a psychiatrist and never took ANY drugs. I suspect I have severe ADHD yet I have still beat my DP/DR completely, though I still have some anxiety but that's due to a huge life problem that I have, but I know that I'll solve that one just as I solved all the other ones so far!

So that's it, that was my personal opinion and I hope I didn't bore you with such a long post. In case I later realize that I miss some of the common mistakes I'll make sure to add it! :)

Greetings from Serbia! ;)
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Thank you Laura! Perhaps you experienced similar thing as I did. I am very physically active and my DP/DR started when I was a bit injured and sick and it was winter so I really couldn't run and play soccer even if I wanted, it was very snowy so I got lazy and it was a big shock for my organism that was used to being physically active. So that's my theory - such contrast in physical activity was uncomfortable, possibly have triggered Zinc deficiency and an injury that I had also possibly triggered Lysine deficiency and it all combined with me being very depressed,stressed over few personal things and feeling lonely triggered DP/DR.

So definitely expect big improvement once you start running again ;) Cause these days I'm pretty physically active again and I feel great :)

Keep accepting DP/DR and not giving a damn and everything will iron itself out with time ;)
Yes I know what is Solipsism. The problem is not the theory itself, as much as it's your panicky and anxious view on it, or on anything else for that matter.

The more you live life the more you'll stop bothering with such scary questions, and then once healed even when you ask yourself those questions they won't seem that scary, and they'll definitely seem pointless and time wasting :)
Loza, I can tell you the level of fear definetly subsides if you don't fight it. Ive had this for awhile, I was like a panicked maniac, now im just slightly anxious, and I don't even feel that all the time. Im still battling the depression, but from experience, if you let the thought sit, no matter how bad it feels without trying to disprove or make it 'right' your brain will eventually stop giving the fear response to it.
Oh yeah, I still do as im not recovered yet. But yes im doing the erp therapy myself. Its hard and doesn't happen quickly, but I figure if the thoughts no longer make you sad or afraid ypu should just stop thinking them eventually.
Loza782, I think that it's you panicking over how antiderpessants will affect you, rather than antidepressants themselves (but hey it doesn't mean they couldn't make you feel a bit more woozy). You have to have faith in our advices, I know it's hard and I know that at your stage it takes some time before someone's words or your rational mind breaks through the irrational, anxious and skeptical barrier created by your DP/DR and actually get to you, but you need to believe us.

You have to realize that your pregnancy itself may cause some or even majority of your anxiety and problems, but it is so worth it, because after it all passes you'll have your baby! :) Isn't that amazing.

I think this video is made for you -
make sure to show it to your husband as well!
Just to let you all know about that big life problem I mentioned in my initial post here. After soooooooo much time it seems that I have finally found a solution, but I don't want to celebrate before I test it several times :)

For now, I will just start laughing like an evil scientist mwuahuahuahuahuaaaaa :) Long live patience and persistence! :))))) mwuahuahuahuaaaaa! :D

;)
I am the first one who never believed in psychological therapies and I will always be sceptical about most of them, BUT DP/DR IS EXCEPTION.

The Holy Grail Of Curing DP/DR really literally solves it...it beats DP/DR completely, yes, to a point where you literally can't even remember what DP/DR used to feel like, but instead you just remember it as "something that felt awfully awkward and awkwardly awful".

Here is my personal opinion on the top 8 mistakes that DP/DR people make when trying to cure their DP/DR:

1.Not getting physically examined.

Get your blood/stool/urine/skin/amino acids/minerals/vitamins/hormons tests done!!!! at least 40% of my DP/DR was due to Lysine and Zinc deficiency.

For many it was Sleep Apnea that caused it entirely or for the most part.

2.Neglecting other mental disorders that may have caused DP/DR in the first place (DP/DR is nothing but a branch of anxiety).

Visit a psychiatrist and of course always seek for a natural solution first and then if it doesn't work, take your psychiatrist's advice.

3.Not creating conditions for healing DP/DR.

You can't expect to not be anxious at least on a subconscious level if you have some serious life problems. First solve them all and then once fine with your life, beating DP/DR is actually very easy. As long as you have some serious, severe life problems that really bother you your anxiety will always reoccur for sure and in turn possibly even provoke DP/DR again.

4.Not enough sleep or poor sleeping patterns.

Just as it's mentioned in The Holy Grail Of Curing DP/DR, 8 hours of sleep is the best, because it is not too much but not too little either. Lay as early as you can.

If you notice that daytime naps trigger DP/DR, avoid them (for me daytime naps were the number 1 trigger and for some others they actually helped, so determine on your own).

5.Feeling guilty/anxious about beign relaxed. (this was my biggest misatke :D)

Thoughts like these - "Oh should I really relax at a time like this!? Or should I perhaps relax a bit more!? Oh wait! What if I relax too much!?" will only put your attention back on DP/DR and will make you more anxious.

RELAX!!! Being at peace never brought any harm to anyone, you can be sure about that.

I know I know it is kind of hard to calm down with all those worries, but trust me, your body and mind will start picking up the calm mindset with the time.

It's one of those things that is very hard to start, but once you slip into the first "calm day" it will gradually become easier and easier, then the time will iron it all out and once out of DP/DR, you'll be thinking - "how the heck did I manage to feel that way in the first place?!" :)

6.Spending too much time alone in your room in front of your PC.

This doesn't mean you should get freaked out if you worked for 8 hours on your PC (I am into CG and IT myself) or if you played some Final Fantasy/Command And Conquer like games for couple of hours (come on, those franchises are way too awesome! :D) it is ok, it just means that you should GO OUTSIDE SOMETIMES FOR CHRIST SAKE! :D Refresh contacts with your friends, make new friends, pick good people as your friends, get rid of bad "friends", be a good person, fall in love etc.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Although it is not something you should be freaked about, the speed of your recovery definitely depends on how much you avoid being alone and spending time on surfing and reading creepy stories like ours :D

7.Being a crybaby about a relapse or a bad day.

I am the sorest loser you will EVER MEET. PERIOD. Yet I learned to be fine with occasional relapses which helped me soooo much. These days I don't even remember when those relapses have happened.

8.Thinking about DP/DR, then thinking about thinking about DP/DR, then thinking about what your dog who's name is Bob btw (did I guess? :D) thinks about you having DP/DR while playing Red Alert 2 and would he bite you if he knew that you were using dog units as a cannon fodder in the game...then getting anxious about it all and then get depressed about being anxious and then getting angry about feeling all of that again and then AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I hope you see the pattern :)

So just think less, and live more! Everything is going to be fine, and no, Bob is not going to bite you :)

Just for the record, I never went to a psychiatrist and never took ANY drugs. I suspect I have severe ADHD yet I have still beat my DP/DR completely, though I still have some anxiety but that's due to a huge life problem that I have, but I know that I'll solve that one just as I solved all the other ones so far!

So that's it, that was my personal opinion and I hope I didn't bore you with such a long post. In case I later realize that I miss some of the common mistakes I'll make sure to add it! :)

Greetings from Serbia! ;)
Can I ask, if sleep apnea does cause it, how do you cure sleep apnea?
Hello Vitellius! Sorry for a delayed reply! I am doing so well that I don't have much time for message boards and such, so I just come here occasionally in case someone needs an advice :)

Well Sleep Apnea is probably the most common cause of DP/DR at least when it comes to physical conditions (that's what my statistics say, but I'm not a doc by any means, just a former sufferer and a bit of analyst ;D).

Sleep Apnea is usually easily treated by the CPAP mask, but of course get diagnosed with it first :)

Before you do that all, try to make a habit of sleeping on the side, that will also significantly improve it.
How long after u knew what u had to do to recover did it take you to beat it?
And when u finnaly did recover did u just wake up feeling normal or did it happen while u were awake? Im on the road to beating it and im curious
That is the same question I've been asking others who recovered at that time :) I guess history repeats itself :)

Well I've beat DP 100% and DR is still there a bit because my DR is rather just a brain fog caused by some kind of neurological thing or something like that (I still haven't figured out what is causing it, although I think it may be my slight hypothyroid, and I'm going to check it soon again). But it is not a feeling unreal thing, it's just like I said, more of a brain fog and poor ability to focus, so no worries.

Now onto your question, from the moment I knew what to do, to the recovery it took roughly about 6-8 months.

Now PLEASE, it is very important not to bother with it and count the days :) Instead try to be social/active (without overburdening and pushing yourself way too much of course)and try not to think about it too much. Because constant self checking for whether it's gone or not was something that kind of slowed my process of recovery down. So the best and the most efficient way to recover is to just relax as much as possible, realize that world is not going to fall apart, you're not going crazy, everything is going to be fine, just accept DP, don't fight it, let it go, keep on living with it, and it will pass on it's own.

As for your other question, for me it wasn't something that just HAPPENED suddenly, it's a lot like beating depression and anxiety (well as we all know DP is in 99% cases just a symptom of anxiety), it's very gradual, and over time you start noticing that while you are still not good you are significantly better than you was, and so on, and it gradually disappears :) The moment I realized I was 100% is when I thought to myself "heeey! I haven't been thinking about DP for quite some time now! Wait, wow! it's actually gone! How the heck did I even manage to feel that way anyway :D".

So, the moral of the story is to accept it, live with DP, let it go, relax, have fun, go ahead and live life, distract yourself, do something you love to do and with time it will pass indeed.
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Well iv had it for almost 4 months, but I now know what to do and im no longer afraid of it really. It has gotten lighter in the past few weeks and im not obssesing over it nearly as bad, i go out and chill with my friends whenever I get the chance , i feel as if im really close, but its still a pain in the ass lol
Haha yeah I know, but don't let it bother you :) Don't necessarily FORCE trying to forget about it, just relax, don't count the days, accept it and do something you enjoy, that way even when you think about it it won't get you angry/anxious/depressed.

Trust me, if there's one thing that all of us who beat DP have learned it is - you are soooo much tougher than you think you are.

So don't worry, you are on the right track. You're not going insane, you don't have a brain injury and the world is not going to end (those are standard 3 irrational delusions every deeply DPed person has :D)
I think iv had it befor too, one day a few years ago I felt like i was in a wierd dream state for awhile and it lasted a few weeks but I didnt know what it was or pay any attention to it cause it was very light, but it just eventually went away without me even noticing it and I didnt even remember it untill recently.

But yes as the days have gone by iv dwelt on it less and less and i no longer have panick attacks or any of the weird random depression feelings, but its still here and still screws with me a little...but I know im getting better
^oh yeah, than that's definitely just the "lingering anxiety", cause you are anxious about it possibly coming back, but in reality, if you're not afraid of it and if you don't dwell on it it can only get better and never worse.

If you don't count days and act as if you don't care even if it stays there with you for the rest of your life, after some time it will simply completely disappear ;)
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