I've been on this forum a long time, and as some of you may have noticed, I dont have those many posts. I like to "think" before I type, so to speak. I want what I write to be clear, concise, intelligent, and have a postive effect on whomever I am addressing. I want my meaning to be clear. And I dont want attention. That being said, at times I feel it is better to be quiet and then perhaps later to carefully measure my words. I happen to agree with a great deal of what Sojourner posts, and there is a certain amount of selfless fervor in your posts which I find admirable. Oftentimes when people are claiming not to judge others, what they really mean is they are saving face so that they will not be called a bigot. It is a desire for acceptance which overrides a desire for truth. But I have found that there is a great need for diplomacy in daily life as well as in our "internet lives". I have always had an innate desire to sympathize with people whom I may not necessarily agree with and to understand the reasons why they choose what they choose. St. Thomas Aquinas once said that religion is a human imperfection. It is a (necessary) human construct which helps us to understand God. I am in some ways a very average 24 year old guy. I dont "enjoy" Church or religion. I cant eat, sleep, and breathe Church 24/7 like some of my friends. I am a very nuts-and-bolts religous guy. Living a moral life is its own reward - living an immoral life is its own reward as well. Catholicism teaches me how to be the best version of myself, and I read its theology to answer my questions about why, or about how these answers were arrived at. My parents were very, very preachy and obsessed with religion, and it seemed only to isolate them. Because of all of this, I have had a rather innate aversion to sounding preachy or polarizing arguments. Goodness, if it truly exists and is truly of God, should speak for itself. We lead best by example. It should, to others, look honest, clear, rational, and rewarding. Evil is the shortcut in our lives which leads to irrationality, deceit, and unhappiness. Vice weakens, virtue strengthens.
What do I beleive about abortion? It is wrong. Mother Teresa of Calcutta said that the eventual fruit of abortion is nuclear war. Sounds extreme, doesnt it? Pope John Paul, when he visited the US under President Clinton, said that it is impossible to build a just society if we do not protect the weakest and smallest humans in it. When we make children a choice or a means, its only a small step towards mistreating them when they are born. And them mistreating others when they get older. And so the value of a human is weakened, and a vicious cycle of maltreatment begins. If you fail to see that your own happiness is tied up in the happiness of others, and you begin to see the life of another as an obstacle to it, then any kind of action against others can be justified. The most common reason I have seen for abortion is convenience.
It's compelling countless other women to go back to the ages of "backstreet abortions", undergoing painful, dangerous procedures, and sometimes even dying.
TT: Aw, poor things... might get hurt while they commit murder, eh? Oh, the injustice of it....
Thats probably something I wouldnt have typed, or I wouldn't have typed in that way, but its a good point nonetheless. I wont justify a crime just because someone might get hurt while doing it. Yes, it is dangerous. Its almost as dangerous nowadays. There is nothing gentle about a medical abortion, and frankly, its a quite underdeveloped branch of medicine. Doctors are idiots, yes. We all know that here. But they arent stupid. They've all delivered enough babies for them to know the difference between a human and a tumor, something I've heard people liken a fetus to. Abortionists are the most despised of all doctors in the medical profession. Doctors hate handing out referrals to them, and when they do, as I've seen it, they reprimand the women and remind them that this should not be their choice for contraception. Then they send them over to the women's hospital, to the one of 3 or four abortionists on staff whom the faculty see as a "necessary evil", and terminate the life and the pregnancy with 1970s equipment and alot of internal bleeding. Its not safe. It physically scars a woman's insides. She'll have miscarriages in the future becuase of it. And its usually black women from the poor sides of town who do use it as a means of contraception. No, I've never even heard of it being used for a rape case in our city of 4 million county residents. That argument is such a red herring....rapes are rarer than other forms of violent crimes. If one occurs, it must occur on one of two days a month that a woman can conceive. I know its another plea for sympathy for women who get abortions, but its just not the real state of medical abortions in the world. Abortions are done, on the whole, for poor women, minorities mostly, who are not exercising sexual restraint, and for whom more children would not be convenient, fun, or monetarily desirable.
It's wrecking the lives of many young girls who, without the chance to abort, have to sacrifice their current concerns and in many cases their futures to care for a child.
TT: Oh, yes, "the young girls," whose parents brought them up to be sluts and murderesses. Aw, the pain of those poor young things... Truly, they are just unfortunate ignorant pawns of their miserable parents, but that's still not justification for murder of an innocent human.
Above all, it's denying women the choice to decide what happens to their own bodies, on the mere basis of some tenuous text with no significant historically or scientifically established veracity.
TT: No, Einstein, it is not on the basis of som tenous text. The fact is that a fetus is a living human with all the organs you have and 100% more sense.
You might not be "playing God", but you're getting damn close.
TT: Defenders of murderers are despicable monsters. If they are too stupid to understand the facts, they are less responsible and thus one can pity their meagre minds that cannot reason and possibly excuse them from moral responsibility. You know, people who just haven't got the intellect to understand right vs. wrong. Or the severely mentally disturbed who have an illness that truly makes it impossible for them to see the difference between right and wrong. But people who are not in either of these classes who support murdering innocent humans are despicable monsters
I have to take some exception to these remarks. I guess I take exception to the word slut in general, even when its deserved, because its so derogatory to another human being. And I dont know just how sexually immoral one must be to be considered a slut. I do know that Mary Magdalene was considered one, but I think remarks like that would have hampered and not helped her conversion. Yes, they commit murder, but they truly may not know what they do. In that way, its much like a person charged with manslaughter, and culpability is diminshed. I dont think that most people who defend abortion see it as murder, or even if that occurs to them, they really dont want to beleive it is. And if one is raised without beliefs about what makes us human, or gives us our innate dignity, I guess it would be even easier to rationalize it. I think many people are saving face by being politically correct, and that , secretly, many people sympathize with the prospect of having a baby out of wedlock and solving their predicament borne of irresponsibility in this manner. Nobody likes to pay the piper. In the end alot of it is about selfishness, irresponsiblity, or lack of education. They are not necessarily monsters with meager minds, or if they are, everyone with sinful tendencies is. The key is educate and teach people that we dont need to live our lives like this - its miserable. There are ways to live our lives and build our society which are so much more truthful, and free, and rational, and productive. And they are built upon thought and values and actions that last. I seriously am considering going into politics, and everyday situations like this are a good way to refine one's beliefs and one's arguments. You cant get anywhere by polarizing the argument - you have to lead by example.