[Phil10]

Since i had DP and discovered Solipsism and free will issues life hasn't felt the same. Life doesn't seem genuine and I worry my thoughts are controlled or life is pre planned? I may never know so that feels awful nobody might ever have answers.

Has anybody got over these type of worries?

 

[Emptyflask]

Idk if thisll help but the way i disproved solipsism in my head was realizing, one: i can only remember things up to a point. Some other force had to have brought me into this world (aka my parents). If you were the only thing to exist, you should be able to remember making yourself into a human and coming up with this "fantasy" world but you dont because thats just simply not the case. Two: the whole world is just too complex and unpredictable for it to all be projected from one mind. Solipsism can be pretty convincing at first, trust me, i get it but its just a spooky delusion.

 

[Phil10]

Yes the problem is all these thoughts of existence give me a headache and I feel stressed and anxious I'm on holiday but feel like that due to the thoughts?

I mean logically it doesn't make sense if life is just a VR experience and have no control? Problem is having these thoughts make it seem a real possibility that life is some how controlled. When I don't think about this I feel normal then when I go down this hole I feel awful and nothing feels or seems real?

I go through spells where it goes away but comes back?

 

[Phil10]

Yes but I have thoughts of being controlled had it for months now and Solipsism thinking nobody is real and also free will issues and questions why I exist I believe it’s related to the DP.

 

[Phil10]

If you really do have thoughts of your mind being controlled, you might be better off with some professional help. It's hard for me to recommend that knowing MH professionals are not created equal, so try and find a smart or at least compassionate one if you do go looking. Most of the diagnoses are just labels, and where a symptom is 'coming from' isn't the most important aspect. The most important thing is feeling supported by and connected to those around you, and doing healthy things with your mind and body. I can't prove to you that I'm not a matrix program or whatever, but I'm not.

I had a long discussion on here before about being controlled and someone came to the conclusion it's my ocd at play. I did mention it to a therapist.

It may seem bad feeling I am controlled but it ties in with the Solipsism and free will. If I have no free will I could be controlled by a computer and so on. All these themes tie in together

 

[Phil10]

I already take Rispéridone for a bipolar episode I had in 2016 but it was a long time ago and they have reduced this medication so I doubt it’s any major mental health issue at play I believe it’s in my ocd theme

 

[PerfectFifth]

Well, my two cents to this are that yes, I would say that you have no free will, but it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with being controlled by a computer. You're controlled by the deterministic laws of nature, cause and effect. And by the way, it doesn't matter because you feel like you have free will. May as well live like you had it. That's all we can do anyway, though we should acknowledge that we don't have it because it affects our notions of morality. You're also right that fundamentally life is "pre-planned" if determinism (at least partially stochastic determinism) is true, and I'd say that it is. But it's not planned by any intelligent being. It's just the laws of nature interacting with matter, and these laws result in fixed outcomes. "Planned" isn't even a good word to use because planning implies deliberate, intelligent planning, which this has nothing to do with.

But believing that you're being controlled by a computer is just a delusion. It isn't a conviction based on reason; it's one based on an unhealthy obsession that is a mental health issue. I'm not saying you should be faulted for having that, of course. It's not exactly up to you. I'm just saying what it is. You could try to reason yourself out of it, but I'm not sure how possible it is to do so. Depends on just how strong those delusions are, I guess. Anyway, there's no reason whatsoever to believe that you're being controlled by a computer.

Everyone's thoughts are controlled by something other than them, "them" being the consciousness that they feel they are. That something is the unconscious processes of the brain. If I now analyze my thought process, I can clearly notice that it's just a perpetual stream of thoughts, moving from one thought to the next. I'm not controlling this flow. It just happens; it goes where it pleases. Am I anxious about this? No. This is how the brain works. It's normal. It's not a computer controlling this stream of thoughts; it's the brain itself, of which I, as consciousness, am but a small part.

 

[PerfectFifth]

I already take Rispéridone for a bipolar episode I had in 2016 but it was a long time ago and they have reduced this medication so I doubt it's any major mental health issue at play I believe it's in my ocd theme

Well, clearly there's some sort of mental health issue here because it's not normal to be obsessed about ideas of having one's thoughts being controlled by a computer.