SPOOKY STUFF... psychic psycho

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sleepingbeauty

Discussion Starter · Mar 28, 2005

i wasnt sure what forum this would fit best in.. maybe spiritual but i guess this is an ok place.

i picked up gav from the airport last night and later we had dinner then decided to take a walk downtown. it was around 10 pm... and since it was easter sunday the place was a ghosttown... well.. as far as regular humans go. for some reason there were a surprising number of wierdos and crackheads and creeps walking around. gav and i didnt say much to each other while on the walk.. just holding hands while gav smoked a ciggy. we passed alot of wierdos that harassed us a bit but we didnt say anything just kept walking, when up ahead of us came this guy. certianly not your average joe. young guy about maybe 20 years old... all dirty with his clothes all torn and he was talking to himself out loud. definately schitzo but the scary part was that he was walking exactly like something out of THE RING or NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD.

i was like HOLY SH!T. :shock: but we both put our heads down and kept walking. but then he wouldnt let us pass. he was laughing and talking to himself and staring at us. we had to snake around the guy and as we did his talking got louder and scarier but we kept going faster this time... and when we got about 30 feet from the guy he shouted "GAVIN!!"

we both froze in our feet and turned around and he was staring at us and smiling this insane smile and he yelled again "GAVIN!!!!!"

then he started coming after us!! we took off and eventually lost him but needless to say we were both really shaken. there is NO WAY that he could have known gavs name. we tried to figure out any way that he could have known it.. gav checked for his wallet.. it was there. he wasnt at the resturant or around us at any other time.. and i hadnt spoken gavs name at all that night not even at the airport cause we call each other by pet names of course not by our real names. there is NO WAY he could have known gavs name at all.

personally... i believe in demons. i believe there is alot of sh!t that cant be explained. i believe that (and im sure most will dissagree especially in here) schitsofrenics talk to ghosts and demons and other phenoms that we cant see. if anyone knows anything about necro and the paranormal.. then they can understand what im getting at. gav doenst believe in it and hes very logical.. but he was more shaken than i was. he tried to make every heads or tails out of the situation but always came up short. there was nothing that could explain it. :shock:

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Monkeydust

· #5 · Mar 28, 2005

Nah.....

My first immediate thought is that perhaps this man recognized your partner from several years ago, he might have known him once; I'm sure if it was dark and the man was a mess Gavin may not have recognized him back.

To posit that because of scenarios such as this "demons" or "spirits" must somehow speak to the mentally ill is to have one thought too many.

EDIT: Also check out the principle of Occam's razor. By that, it's much more plausible that the guy had seen or heard your partner elsewhere than that he can communicate with demons or spirits.

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Monkeydust

· #19 · Mar 30, 2005

By all means search for a way to explain this by supernatural means. If you can prove it, then I, for one, may well believe you.

Until then, half-baked theories about "spirits and demons" which have a sum total of no conclusive evidence cannot be expected to be treated seriously.

I am not saying that categorically they are impossible, not at all - but it requires argument and evidence to support any such viewpoint, neither of which have been or can as yet be presented by anyone making supernatural claims.

The same was true for quantum physics. It remains so now.

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Monkeydust

· #22 · Mar 31, 2005

Oh and another thing........

Even if we were to accept that there are "spirits and demons" about, the view that schizophrenics in some way communicate with these is demonstrably false.

This is due to te fact that in nearly all schizophrenic cases (except, apparently, in this one), the voices are unable to tell them information the person doesn't know - in fact, I've heard a technique schizophrenics learn in therapy in order to get the voices to "shut up" is to ask them to tell them something they don't already know.

The view given at the beginning of this thread would require the admission that only that one man spoke to "spirits" and all other schizophrenics do not. This doesn't seem very plausible.

But, anyway, Janine is right. Just because we don't understand something, doesn't mean "fantastic" explanations are there to be found. That's just our minds playing tricks on us.

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