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I can't deal with one aspect of this whole dpdr thing... And that is, that I simply can't have a conversation. I don't have racing thoughts, I don't think 'is this real'? I just don't understand what the message of what's being said is. I don't get the simplest things. Seriously, sometimes it's just a few words that are being said. I respond correctly, somehow. But I don't know how. I still can interact with my surroundings correctly. I know how to do stuff, sort of automatically. But I can't think properly. I can't follow storylines in books or movies.
I only read about 'trouble focusing' on here. But that's not what this is. This is scary and has me thinking I'll end up mentally disabled...
Anyone who can relate?:giggle:
 

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I can't deal with one aspect of this whole dpdr thing... And that is, that I simply can't have a conversation. I don't have racing thoughts, I don't think 'is this real'? I just don't understand what the message of what's being said is. I don't get the simplest things. Seriously, sometimes it's just a few words that are being said. I respond correctly, somehow. But I don't know how. I still can interact with my surroundings correctly. I know how to do stuff, sort of automatically. But I can't think properly. I can't follow storylines in books or movies.
I only read about 'trouble focusing' on here. But that's not what this is. This is scary and has me thinking I'll end up mentally disabled...
Anyone who can relate?:giggle:
You once asked me if I am dyslexic.... I passed intermediate with good marks I was one of the bright students of my school..... So there is no chance of being dyslexic...... Now whatever you said, I can relate them all..........

During any conversation, I don't know what I said but I answer correctly what I ought to say at that particular moment...... No one can pin out that i am suffering from this disorder because I am able to manage every situation but can't think clearly anything...... Reasoning capabilities are being deteriorating continuously........ I watch movies but it seems that I was somewhere else during the whole movie
 

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You once asked me if I am dyslexic.... I passed intermediate with good marks I was one of the bright students of my school..... So there is no chance of being dyslexic...... Now whatever you said, I can relate them all..........

During any conversation, I don't know what I said but I answer correctly what I ought to say at that particular moment...... No one can pin out that i am suffering from this disorder because I am able to manage every situation but can't think clearly anything...... Reasoning capabilities are being deteriorating continuously........ I watch movies but it seems that I was somewhere else during the whole movie
How long have you had dpdr? I been feeling like this for 2/2,5 months... This peticular thing make me very scared.
 

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Same exactly same...... It started in November 2020 and gradually intensified.... So i am suffering from 2 years and 1 and a half month
May I ask you to describe all your symptoms? So we can compare? You've had MRI and CT done, right? No infections either? Were you diagnosed? Or did you find out for yourself what's wrong? What bothers me, is that I can't find this symptom on this forum. You're the first I heard about it. Did it get worse through the years?
 

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May I ask you to describe all your symptoms? So we can compare? You've had MRI and CT done, right? No infections either? Were you diagnosed? Or did you find out for yourself what's wrong? What bothers me, is that I can't find this symptom on this forum. You're the first I heard about it. Did it get worse through the years?
Yes I had MRI and CT scan as well.... In the very beginning I thout I have developed a brain tumour so I get it checked and nothing popped out from them...... Reading comprehension is a big task for me......... Whatever I read, I have to go through it several times to get it's meaning.... A simple sentence seems to be a difficult one for me...... Reasoning and thinking capability has been gone...... I have IQ level which is enough to get through day to day life but can't do any extraordinary things......when any one talks to me, I try to understand what he or she says but dont get it properly.... Academics is deteriorating too much...... I am emotionless...... What happened yesterday seems to be happened months ago like a dream...... Eyes cannot focus properly on anything......before dp dr , if I have watched a movie, I could remember each and every characters name but now after watching a movie I can't remember the name of the maine character of that movie.... If you give me a video of 20 mins to watch and ask me what lesson you got from that video , I would be unable to extract main idea of that video...... Things that I have done 1 hours before seems like I have seen a dream ...... I am all time absent from reality....... My eyes has been stucked in a daydreaming position.... Things happened yesterday seems like I have a dream of all that...... Days are passing but I am unable to live.... Life is lifeless...... I am doing everything every act automatically...... I have no control over my acts......

My english is weird as my dp symptoms so sorry for that😅
 

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I can't deal with one aspect of this whole dpdr thing... And that is, that I simply can't have a conversation. I don't have racing thoughts, I don't think 'is this real'? I just don't understand what the message of what's being said is. I don't get the simplest things. Seriously, sometimes it's just a few words that are being said. I respond correctly, somehow. But I don't know how. I still can interact with my surroundings correctly. I know how to do stuff, sort of automatically. But I can't think properly. I can't follow storylines in books or movies.
I only read about 'trouble focusing' on here. But that's not what this is. This is scary and has me thinking I'll end up mentally disabled...
Anyone who can relate?:giggle:
You can respond to a frase or text like this mine because your prefrontal cortex (area of our brain reponsible to complex cognitive behavior, personality expression, decision making, and moderating social behaviour.) is COMPLETLY fine. What makes you fell like "I don't understand what the message of what's being said is" , is because your amygdala (brain area integrative center for emotions, emotional behavior, and motivation) is right now completly overwhelmed. Check the following article, it examine the relationship between dp/dr and the amygdala.
https://scholarworks.wm.edu/cgi/vie...e component,lack of emotion inevitably result.
 

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Yes I had MRI and CT scan as well.... In the very beginning I thout I have developed a brain tumour so I get it checked and nothing popped out from them...... Reading comprehension is a big task for me......... Whatever I read, I have to go through it several times to get it's meaning.... A simple sentence seems to be a difficult one for me...... Reasoning and thinking capability has been gone...... I have IQ level which is enough to get through day to day life but can't do any extraordinary things......when any one talks to me, I try to understand what he or she says but dont get it properly.... Academics is deteriorating too much...... I am emotionless...... What happened yesterday seems to be happened months ago like a dream...... Eyes cannot focus properly on anything......before dp dr , if I have watched a movie, I could remember each and every characters name but now after watching a movie I can't remember the name of the maine character of that movie.... If you give me a video of 20 mins to watch and ask me what lesson you got from that video , I would be unable to extract main idea of that video...... Things that I have done 1 hours before seems like I have seen a dream ...... I am all time absent from reality....... My eyes has been stucked in a daydreaming position.... Things happened yesterday seems like I have a dream of all that...... Days are passing but I am unable to live.... Life is lifeless...... I am doing everything every act automatically...... I have no control over my acts......

My english is weird as my dp symptoms so sorry for that😅
My goodness... Same here! I was really smart, not to be full of myself... Now I just drag myself through the day. Missing parts of it... No emotions, don't recognize myself in the mirror nor on photo's... I find it very difficult to connect with my husband. And I can't really feel my body. Only sometimes I can tell something hurts. And hot and cold, most of the time. Although I went outside in a thin dress and leggings, while it was freezing... Couldn't feel it, until my body started shaking, when I was inside the house again... My eyes are strained and dry. Can't focus them. Everything seems flat, lifeless and dark. I 'zone out' numerous times a day. Tinnitus, ringing in my ears. Can't tell what happened when, like you... Everything's on auto pilot.
Tell me, not to worry you or anything, but I'm scaring myself with the thought of dementia... Did you think about that too?☺ But that doesn't happen so quickly.
Do you know what caused your dpdr? I tried coming off antidepressants. Panic attacks and anxiety followed. Then dpdr...

You're English is fine. Mine is weird too, I'm Dutch.;) Don't worry about it.
 

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You can respond to a frase or text like this mine because your prefrontal cortex (area of our brain reponsible to complex cognitive behavior, personality expression, decision making, and moderating social behaviour.) is COMPLETLY fine. What makes you fell like "I don't understand what the message of what's being said is" , is because your amygdala (brain area integrative center for emotions, emotional behavior, and motivation) is right now completly overwhelmed. Check the following article, it examine the relationship between dp/dr and the amygdala.
https://scholarworks.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1007&context=caaurj#:~:text=The amygdala, a core component,lack of emotion inevitably result.
Does that make it feel like an automatic response too? I hear words coming out of my mouth, but I feel like I don't controle that. If my husband asks me to get / do something I will, but I didn't consciously get what he said. I know what things are, what to do with them, but don't understand their 'meaning' anymore... This is some weird stuff... I mean, I don't get what my hubby says, but here I am typing in a foreign language...
 

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You're having a conversation now. But I can guess what you're referring to. When dealing with stress and 'dissociative spectrum symptoms' following along with a conversation or participating in it can be difficult, especially in person or in a distracting environment. It's highly doubtful that you'll feel this way for the rest of your life so my suggestion is to not worry about it and focus instead on being more healthful and fulfilled.

I don't know if someone can will themself to do this but one of the most important parts of recovery from anxiety is self assurance. When you have a thought like "what if I have a brain tumor" or "what if I can never have a conversation again," you have to assure yourself in order to nip the problem in the bud. People can offer you assurance and that can be beneficial, after all that's one of the main functions of this forum, but this is like the difference between squishing cockroaches versus killing them at the source.
 

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You're having a conversation now. But I can guess what you're referring to. When dealing with stress and 'dissociative spectrum symptoms' following along with a conversation or participating in it can be difficult, especially in person or in a distracting environment. It's highly doubtful that you'll feel this way for the rest of your life so my suggestion is to not worry about it and focus instead on being more healthful and fulfilled.

I don't know if someone can will themself to do this but one of the most important parts of recovery from anxiety is self assurance. When you have a thought like "what if I have a brain tumor" or "what if I can never have a conversation again," you have to assure yourself in order to nip the problem in the bud. People can offer you assurance and that can be beneficial, after all that's one of the main functions of this forum, but this is like the difference between squishing cockroaches versus killing them at the source.
😭😭😭😭 I am very sad but sorry to say I will be very explicit to say that I am glad too to see that the topic you told that you don't feel cold untill you start shaking , this is what actually I suffered.... In India this is winter season and I don't feel cold so dont wear proper winter clothes and due to that I am suffering from fever and cold since two days..... Let me tell you which disorders I was apprehended to...... I thought I have begun.... Dementia.. Dyslexia.. Dissocoative amnesia.... Brain tumour.... Ocd.... And many other......

I have been to psychiatrist but he don't told me anything about my disorder and Only prescribed me mild antidepressants...... I didn't work that's why I never went back to that psychiatrist because I thouth he will send me to mental asylum 😭😭... .....

Whatever I managed to learn from google and magazines , I am happy to tell you that their is no need to worry because no part of you body is damage.... Neither your brain, nor your eyes.... I had been to ophthalmologist twice and nothing popped out... I had CT scan and MRI and nothing popped out......

Its our natural response to stress that we zone out normally but if a stressful situation is such that you are not able to cope with it , then our body resorts to zone out.... If that stresfull situation lingers for long , our body adopts that zone out state permanently to avoid you from that stress......

Once that stresfull situation is gone and you are able to ground yourself .... You will again adopt that normal state of your mind as you were before dp dr..... But it's not easy.... That's why it takes time to recover......

I will explain you my causes in message..... Because it's something personal and is not a thing to be publicly told.... So🤞

Don't be worried bacause if you will worry , you will begin to stress and your body will again adopt zone out state with more intensity and this will again increase your symptoms and after seeing your increased symptoms you will agin worry and again begun to stress and again your mind will increase intensity of dissociation and again your symptoms will increase.... This loop will continue and this dp dr will continue......

Thank you , hope you have been assured a little from my reply.. All the best mam🤗
 

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You're having a conversation now. But I can guess what you're referring to. When dealing with stress and 'dissociative spectrum symptoms' following along with a conversation or participating in it can be difficult, especially in person or in a distracting environment. It's highly doubtful that you'll feel this way for the rest of your life so my suggestion is to not worry about it and focus instead on being more healthful and fulfilled.

I don't know if someone can will themself to do this but one of the most important parts of recovery from anxiety is self assurance. When you have a thought like "what if I have a brain tumor" or "what if I can never have a conversation again," you have to assure yourself in order to nip the problem in the bud. People can offer you assurance and that can be beneficial, after all that's one of the main functions of this forum, but this is like the difference between squishing cockroaches versus killing them at the source.
I'll try. Thank you.
 

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😭😭😭😭 I am very sad but sorry to say I will be very explicit to say that I am glad too to see that the topic you told that you don't feel cold untill you start shaking , this is what actually I suffered.... In India this is winter season and I don't feel cold so dont wear proper winter clothes and due to that I am suffering from fever and cold since two days..... Let me tell you which disorders I was apprehended to...... I thought I have begun.... Dementia.. Dyslexia.. Dissocoative amnesia.... Brain tumour.... Ocd.... And many other......

I have been to psychiatrist but he don't told me anything about my disorder and Only prescribed me mild antidepressants...... I didn't work that's why I never went back to that psychiatrist because I thouth he will send me to mental asylum 😭😭... .....

Whatever I managed to learn from google and magazines , I am happy to tell you that their is no need to worry because no part of you body is damage.... Neither your brain, nor your eyes.... I had been to ophthalmologist twice and nothing popped out... I had CT scan and MRI and nothing popped out......

Its our natural response to stress that we zone out normally but if a stressful situation is such that you are not able to cope with it , then our body resorts to zone out.... If that stresfull situation lingers for long , our body adopts that zone out state permanently to avoid you from that stress......

Once that stresfull situation is gone and you are able to ground yourself .... You will again adopt that normal state of your mind as you were before dp dr..... But it's not easy.... That's why it takes time to recover......

I will explain you my causes in message..... Because it's something personal and is not a thing to be publicly told.... So🤞

Don't be worried bacause if you will worry , you will begin to stress and your body will again adopt zone out state with more intensity and this will again increase your symptoms and after seeing your increased symptoms you will agin worry and again begun to stress and again your mind will increase intensity of dissociation and again your symptoms will increase.... This loop will continue and this dp dr will continue......

Thank you , hope you have been assured a little from my reply.. All the best mam🤗
Yes, a little. Thanks. 😊
 

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You're having a conversation now. But I can guess what you're referring to. When dealing with stress and 'dissociative spectrum symptoms' following along with a conversation or participating in it can be difficult, especially in person or in a distracting environment. It's highly doubtful that you'll feel this way for the rest of your life so my suggestion is to not worry about it and focus instead on being more healthful and fulfilled.

I don't know if someone can will themself to do this but one of the most important parts of recovery from anxiety is self assurance. When you have a thought like "what if I have a brain tumor" or "what if I can never have a conversation again," you have to assure yourself in order to nip the problem in the bud. People can offer you assurance and that can be beneficial, after all that's one of the main functions of this forum, but this is like the difference between squishing cockroaches versus killing them at the source.
I don't know if you're still following this thread. But I wanted to let you know, that you were right. I let myself fall into the dpdr, so to say. And... nothing happened. Didn't lose myself. I am now just living life again, as best as I can. I even do way more, than I used to. I'm focusing on being kind to others AND myself. The latter being something that I didn't really do before this. I dress nicely, wear some make up again. This afternoon I have an appointment to get my hair done. I'm looking for work, I've picked up on old hobbies again and started new ones. I am way more social. Doing the best I can in conversations. I decided to not add more anxiety and panic to the dpdr. And I feel like it's gotten less severe. I still feel foggy and dissociated. But I'm trying to make the best of it. Looking into therapy options with my psychiatrist and therapists. So, I still am struggling, but I try to be more positive.
Thanks for your advice! I really appreciate it!☺
 

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I can't deal with one aspect of this whole dpdr thing... And that is, that I simply can't have a conversation. I don't have racing thoughts, I don't think 'is this real'? I just don't understand what the message of what's being said is. I don't get the simplest things. Seriously, sometimes it's just a few words that are being said. I respond correctly, somehow. But I don't know how. I still can interact with my surroundings correctly. I know how to do stuff, sort of automatically. But I can't think properly. I can't follow storylines in books or movies.
I only read about 'trouble focusing' on here. But that's not what this is. This is scary and has me thinking I'll end up mentally disabled...
Anyone who can relate?:giggle:
Absolutely- I functioned at a relatively high level working as a legal assistant. This condition has so many facets to it . We are like diamonds in the sunlight . It’s constantly changing and evolving . I’ve had a lot of luck with testosterone pulling me towards being a lot more connected .
 

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Absolutely- I functioned at a relatively high level working as a legal assistant. This condition has so many facets to it . We are like diamonds in the sunlight . It’s constantly changing and evolving . I’ve had a lot of luck with testosterone pulling me towards being a lot more connected .
I'm glad you feel more connected! What a beautiful description for something so dreadful... Diamonds in the sun!
All the best to you!
 

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just reading all this — I had a thought that maybe I'm just too used to living or maybe my attention span is just messed up because I feel the same, detached and spaced out from what I'll verbally say. Or I've even questioned if I was so used to being depressed that I'm not used to being actually well or content, like my body is responding but I haven't actually caught up at all.

No way of knowing, but I wonder if DP/DR rates have increased since covid, I do remember feeling like this before, and there are too many factors (chronic googling, internet is more accessible, self-diagnosing, mental health knowledge, etc)
 

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just reading all this — I had a thought that maybe I'm just too used to living or maybe my attention span is just messed up because I feel the same, detached and spaced out from what I'll verbally say. Or I've even questioned if I was so used to being depressed that I'm not used to being actually well or content, like my body is responding but I haven't actually caught up at all.

No way of knowing, but I wonder if DP/DR rates have increased since covid, I do remember feeling like this before, and there are too many factors (chronic googling, internet is more accessible, self-diagnosing, mental health knowledge, etc)
I don't have any answers... I wish you well. I hope you'll find some relief in the future.
 
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