[Livingthenightmare]

It would be helpful if you could ascertain exactly what it was that made your DP go away- the sinus cleanse/alergy meds or the coconut/flax products. It doesn't seem likely that it was the fruity water.

So basically just do one at a time and see which one gets your DP to go away. Hope you'll get back to us with the answer.

 

[Livingthenightmare]

Yeah I have sinus pressure and a constantly clogged nose too. I thought it might have something to do with my DP.

So your alergy meds didn't fix it for you ? Could you say what you took anayway ? Might be worth the try. Also if you could try the rinse again and see if you get the same effect ? That sounds really uncomfortable, which is why I didnt do it until now. I take it the antibiotics you took before didnt fully take care of the sinus problem, neither did they take away the DP completely, so I wonder if they'll really make it go away now. Please post if you get anywhere with this. It sounds really exciting, but if it really is the sinuses I'm not sure how easy it'll be to fix it.

 

[Livingthenightmare]

Great- hopefully you get the same results with this rinse too. Btw- I have a deviated septum too- also to the left. And I dunno about what part anxiety may play in your DP but it seems to me that if you could get rid of it completely with a sinus rinse that would mean anxiety or no anxiety it's possible you won't be able to have DP symptoms without sinus problems. Hopefully that's the case. I know when I get my ear full of wax it drives me completely nuts- btw how did you take out the ear wax, you never mentioned that ?

For sinus surgery- better do a baloon sinoplasty- no knives involved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_sinuplasty

I'll have to see what medication I can try too.

 

[Livingthenightmare]

You really think such an intense experience as DP/DR could be caused by SINUS problems?

We're dealing with something that has an unknown mechanism so there's not much point to come with any preconceived notions about what I or anyone else thinks DP is caused by. If she says she got rid of DP by temporarily fixing her sinus problem and fixing it permanently gets rid of it completely that's good enough for me, especially if it does the same for me as well.

If I can get rid of DP by clearing my sinuses I care very little about the academic question of what else may have combined with the sinus issue to give me DP as long as it's gone.

For all I know a swollen sinus presses on the pituitary gland (or it's the infection itself that raises cortisol) which in turn causes a hormone/neurotransmitter problem that manifest itself as DP(for ex see http://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/ajr.175.6.1751570 where it details a sinus infection acting similarly as a pituitary tumor).

And symptoms of a pituitary tumor include:

Various psychiatric manifestations have been associated with pituitary disorders including pituitary adenomas. Psychiatric symptoms such as depression, anxiety[36] apathy, emotional instability, easy irritability and hostility have been noted.[37]

One study, which compared the prevalence of microadenomas in those dying from suicide and those who died from other causes, suggests that pituitary adenomas belong to suicide risk factors.[13]

There's a thread here with a bunch of people taking HPA axis supplements going DP free in 2 weeks. The gland extracts they tried had hormones included. The ones I got were hormone free. Maybe that's why it didnt work for me. Next step is to try to get that exact brand.

 

[Livingthenightmare]

Yeah, I agree 100% about the people with the "ignore it and it'll go away" advice. That might work if your problem is strictly trauma/stress or temporary imbalance caused by drugs and it's not bad enough to be self perpetuating.

See this also: http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/44589-estrogenprednisolone-to-correct-hpa-axis/ and http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30538-i-might-have-found-a-cure-for-all-those-looking-for-hope/?hl=%20standard%20%20process

My best guess atm is that this is all caused by problems with the HPA axis- Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Adrenal axis. The first link shows how they could threat Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (might very well work just as well for DP) and the second by taking HPA supplements/extracts a whole bunch of people here got their DP to go away.

 

[Livingthenightmare]

I have posted a reply here to those of you who want to check it out:

http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30538-i-might-have-found-a-cure-for-all-those-looking-for-hope/page-4?hl=%20standard%20%20process

Nice reply. But you seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth. First that hydrocortisone has downsides (which it does) and that the standard process animal extracts are unproven (who's gonna give the FDA the billions they'd want for tests?) and then how you need to get the things that are broken fixed- can't ignore a broken arm.

It seems you're not doing too badly if you're able to dismiss potential fixes for not rising to your safety standards. (my safety standard is: "since it's probably not gonna kill me... *gulp* ")Or maybe you just wanted to point out the downsides. Regardless, when you have a problem with no known clear-cut cure I for one don't think I can afford to be too picky. Heck- I tried antidepressants that are supposedly tested for safety, approved and all that multi billion-dollar crap and they only made me feel worse- after I got them turns out SSRIs can actually give you DP instead of curing it. Stuff like that getting approved doesn't raise the credibility of the FDA for me one bit and anyway doesn't seem to suggest tested stuff if any safer.

But if you get tested, find an imbalance and manage to get it treated successfully by means other than the hydrocortisone or the HPA extracts please let everybody know. The more known options the better of course.