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http://www.rael.org/

Have you guys heard about this guy! He is building an embasy (did I spell that right?) for the aliens to land....

This guy is serious and he is trying to clone a human being....

He might be one of the many anti-christ to come, or maybe THEE anti-christ.

Check it out, you might become a RAEL beliver LOL :roll:
 

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Yeah, they've been trying to get eternal life by cloning your body, then "dowloading" the contents of your brain into the clone's body, thus perpetuating your "self" forever. They were in the news in the US quite a while ago, and I dont think their idea of "downloading" consciousness is anywhere near possible - ever. The only idea thats been proposed that could work is a total body transplant, ie, from the neck down, or a brain transplant. But eventually, of course, the brain will age even if the body doesnt. We have 12 talomeres in our DNA and one falls off every ten years. Your brain wont make it past 120 years old. Anyways, I dont think the guy is anywhere near smart enough to be the antichrist. Good scam artist, thought. He's making oodles of money.

For what its worth, supposedly a group of Jewish influentials near Jerusalem has come up with the raw materials to make a prefabricated Solomon's temple. Supposedly they could get it up in a couple weeks time if the conditions were right. I dont have any confirmation on this, so it could just be one of those evangelical rumors. Sadaam Hussein, however, DID find Babylon, and began work on excavating it some time ago. Add to that, that as Rev posted, information would be greatly increased in the final days, and these things seem to appear a little eerie. I used to campaign in a hugely influential Jewish area of Pittsburgh - its the third largest Jewish epicenter after New York and Jersusalem, New York being numero uno. And most of the Jewish people I spoke to were still expecting the "Messiah" to come soon. They had signs above their doors that said to prepare for his coming. And its interesting to note that their idea of the Messiah is the same thing they were expecting 2000 years ago, and still the antithesis of Christ. It was explained to me that he would be wealthy, handsome, have great knowledge and power, would clear up questions which modern life have raised in Jewish law, and would unite the world under him, in Jerusalem. And of course, there would be a great battle in the world over this, but he would win. Now their "messiah" sounds eerily like the Antichrist, and that last battle sounds eerily like the Apocaplyse. They too think this man is coming soon. Thats a good bit of the world expecting something written in religious prophesy simultaneously. Who knows? Perhaps the state of Israel is the begining of this. I'm actually all for the state of Israel, but it still may be a signpost along the way. Funny, though. You'd think they would have dropped the wishing for the slick and powerful long ago after seeing how these kinds of men do the most damage in the world. I would have thought that they would be looking for the "peaceful resistance" type such as Mahatma Gandhi or Christ....but the Jewish people evidently have clung to this. All in all, though, whether you are one of those people that enjoys end-times hysteria ( I dont ) these all are interesting developments.

Does anyone here know according to the book of Revelations if the armies of the earth will conquer the Antichrist? If I remember correctly, they are actually defeated, the two prophets are killed, and after there is great rejoicing at their deaths, the Antichrist is killed through an act of God, after which there is a period of peace on earth, followed by the "end" during this time. I could be wrong, however, as I've read so many different interpretations.

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Does anyone here know according to the book of Revelations if the armies of the earth will conquer the Antichrist? If I remember correctly, they are actually defeated, the two prophets are killed, and after there is great rejoicing at their deaths, the Antichrist is killed through an act of God, after which there is a period of peace on earth, followed by the "end" during this time. I could be wrong, however, as I've read so many different interpretations.

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Well in Revelations the antichist is said to speak through policy (politics) and basically everything else you said homeskooled...anyway for the most part what I read is that the antichrist will fight with the Russians and China, and Jesus will come on his white horse and crush em' all.

So basically China will rise up and kick some major but and Jesus will come down with the power of heaven and hell and crush em ' all and the antichrist and all the non belivers will be sucked up in to the pits of hell.

Boy that sounds fun.... :roll:
 

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Very dangerously one dimensional mr mortgage.This stereotyping of nations as good or evil is crazy.Are you the type of person that goes to wwf and believes the wrestlers are for real and not acting?do you cheer the good guy and boo the bad guy?I bet you do.
 

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Very dangerously one dimensional mr mortgage.This stereotyping of nations as good or evil is crazy.Are you the type of person that goes to wwf and believes the wrestlers are for real and not acting?do you cheer the good guy and boo the bad guy?I bet you do.
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Sorry, don't take offence Mr Mortgage.
 

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Very dangerously one dimensional mr mortgage.This stereotyping of nations as good or evil is crazy.Are you the type of person that goes to wwf and believes the wrestlers are for real and not acting?do you cheer the good guy and boo the bad guy?I bet you do.
LOL hey! It's not my plan...its what the book says...I just read it. To be honest I like asian people, and I think China is cool....It's not up to me, it's up to God...If he want's to crush China, that's his idea not mine.

On a side note, my friend is really scientific and doesnt really believe in God. I was talking to him about what the bible says about Russia and China and he thought it was kinda funny it said that considering he seen a video on the interent of a powerful chinese general explaining to troops that China is going to need more space and North America is looking like the right place (Canada) also that they are developing a virus that will be engineered to kill the white race...We are the ultimate race...Sounding really Hitler like......Once China found out that this video got out, this general was fired!

For some reason right now China is building up its army like crazy and they are coming up in economic power.... The USA sent Rumsfied over to China the other day to talk about just this....The USA is thinking of trying to make a peace treaty with China....and if that fails then there might be a peace time draft over here in the USA....

Like I said, I dont have control of what is written in the bible, and what the world is doing....Boy I wish I did though, I'd make myself rich and I'd have like 5 wives...LOL :lol:
 

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^OH by the way...the bible hinting about this is just too vague by the way :roll: For it to really be a REAL prediction the Bible would have to say a date and time for this war to start, other then that its bull crap. :roll:

Another hint that something big is going to happen.... :idea:

What is faith? Faith ='s some bull crap word that people use to brainwash other people. :roll:

For me to believe what the bible says, It would have to be an exact obvious truth and predictions of the future or its just Bull CRAP..... :roll:

If the bible gets its halfway right then it was just LUCK :roll:

Oh we cant think of Nostradamus as a prophet, his prediction was 2 years off! What a loser! Anybody can guess that! :roll:

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That sounds just like a few people on this forum :wink: I'm just having a little fun with you guys! :twisted:
 
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Ever heard of Edgar Cayce? He predicted many things that eventually came true such as the great depression, the rise and fall of hitler, world war II, the discovery of the dead sea scrolls, The Dp epidemic etc....What is interesting is that it has been confirmed that he did indeed predict these things and gave broad descriptions of what would happen several years before they happened. The one last thing that he was told was that Jesus would return in 1998. He said he would come back as he came back the first time..Something to think about, if you are a spiritual person at all..Not that I can say I am a believer in it, but I sure wouldn't mind if that indeed were the case.
 

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Very dangerously one dimensional mr mortgage.This stereotyping of nations as good or evil is crazy.Are you the type of person that goes to wwf and believes the wrestlers are for real and not acting?do you cheer the good guy and boo the bad guy?I bet you do.
WWF is not real? YOU LIAR, OF COURSE IT'S REAL.... LOL JUST LIKE THE TOOTH FAIRY AND THE BOOGIE MAN.... :lol:
 
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homeskooled makes an interesting point, that the Jewish messiah will be viewed as the Christian Antichrist, and vice versa; remember that the Jewish authorities in Jesus' time believed him to be aligned with and derive his power from Satan.

Sabbatai Zvi, 17th century claimant to the title of the Jewish messiah, was declared the Antichrist by the Vatican.

In Hebrew each letter has a numerical value; aleph is 1, bet 2, etc; there is no "W" in Hebrew so when English is phonetically transliterated to Hebrew, the "W" is done so as "V" (vav), the numerical value of which is 6. So "www," such as is found in URLs would be transliterated as "vav vav vav--" "6-6-6."
 

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But seriously! That is an interesting point! In my honest opinion the world was a better place like 100 years ago! Humans are too smart for their own good man!

Think about it, what advanced species would develop weapons that would destroy everyone with one touch of a button. That's just stupid.

If there is other aliens out there they know we're going to end of killng ourselves so they stay far away LOL.

HUMANS WILL PROBABLY BE IN A UNIVERSAL BOOK TITLED "DONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOURE PLANET" LOL!!!
 

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You could get a 'secret' code out of the bloody Argos book if you look for what you want to see. :roll:
Thank you, agreed, IMHO. But I'm really shocked by the statement... with all due respect Homeskooled:

Re: this enclave of Jews in PA....
They had signs above their doors that said to prepare for his coming. And its interesting to note that their idea of the Messiah is the same thing they were expecting 2000 years ago, and still the antithesis of Christ. It was explained to me that he would be wealthy, handsome, have great knowledge and power, would clear up....
I can't even quote all of it. Firstly I have been throwing up all night from the flu. This is good, as it would have started me vomiting anyway....

This sounds like outright, blantant ANTISEMITISM! Do you know ANY Jewish people?
Sheesh, I came here to post a little quotation. I should never have started reading this thread.

The Jews are waiting for the ANTICHRIST? OMG ... the most suspect of ANYONE I know who fits the bill on this one is my Fundamentalist Evangelical Baptist Cousin whom I've known my whole life. He scares the HELL out of me. He knows of every Occult Conspiracy known to man and has likewise waiting for the Apocalypse for quite a while. Well he's in his 60s now. But I'm not going to make a generalization about Baptists from him. He is a "Good Christian" person I could count on in a pinch, but of course he doesn't believe in mental illness, etc., etc. I won't even go there.

Firstly, there are SO many sects in all religions including Judaism. This is as blatant a stereotype as others have thrown at Christians. Oh, and I recall the Mormons (Latter Day Saints -- they are ALL SAINTS -- all members of the church) have been waiting for their "special city" and "the End of Days" since John Smith came on the scene in the 1800s (and was subsequently murdered). They're still waiting... how many "prophets" later? Fascinating book about the mystery of that religion "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer sp?

At any rate, I know about 25 Jewish people personally off the top of my head as they happen to be my in-laws. My husband is Jewish, my mother-in-law is (still cruising at 87 with all her buttons), my brother-in-law, and then lets not get into the extended family. My father-in-law is deceased. I have known these people since @ 1989... meeting them at various times since then.

I also worked in Hollywood as a production assistant. The running joke -- even on "The Fall Guy", if anyone remembers that 1980s Top Ten series starring Lee Majors -- was how everyone "above the line" -- that is producers/writers/DPs/many folk in Hollywood are Jewish. So I worked with I don't know how many Jewish people -- my boss, one co-producer was Jewish. Good people. Some jerks some not.

I also worked at a Synagogue Pre-School as the Office Manager -- a Reconstructionist Synagogue .... again there are a million off-shoots of Judaism as there are ANY religion and that includes the NON-THEIST religion Buddhism.

I attended Shabbat services with my boss (and her husband) who became close friends. Worship ervices, parties, etc. were held regularly throughout the 4? years I was there. I attended Synagogue with my husband, various Synagogues in L.A. -- there are some BEAUTIFUL ones. I have heard better "sermons" from Rabbi's -- that brought me to tears, and REALLY got me thinking. No fire and brimstone. Things applying to LIFE HERE, IN THE PRESENT, NO MESSIAH, NO HEAVEN, NO HELL.

I don't recall meeting a Jewish person who was worried about the antichrist.

Los Angeles also has "a lot of Jews", LOL. The Fairfax district. But so does Detroit. I'm from "The East Side" -- I'm a WASP. "The West Side" -- Jewish.

Oh, forgot to say I had a great roommate one year in college who was from New JOISEY who was Jewish, and had many Jewish friends there, AND dated a wonderful Jewish man/journalism student in college and later when I moved to California. I was in TV, he got a job on a paper out there.

OK, enough of that.

All of these people -- some are practicing Jews, some are not. Some partake in only the rituals which are unifying for so many families, just as Christian rituals are.

Oh MY GOD, I can't even discuss this. This is so off the wall.

If you met ANY of the Jewish people I know, firstly some would take deep offense to what you've said, and the rest would laugh it off as absurd.

The Jews I know, believe in focusing on life on EARTH. On "mitzvahs" -- good deeds that DO NOT GET ONE TO HEAVEN, they don't talk of heaven and Hell, or "The Second Coming" -- they read only the Old Testament which in Genesis for example is recognized more as myth and symbol, and other chapters which are seen more as history and lessons in how to be a good human being on Earth. There is also the Torah where Jewish scholars have long examined what is written in the OT, glean lessons from it, try to live best by its tenets.

Of course there are Hassidic Jews, can't attend services there, particularly since I don't speak Hebrew. They essential keep to themselves, don't preach. I'd equate them with the Amish. I don't know enough about them.

This Kaballah business in Hollywood is also a nutty fad of some sort. As ridiculous as Scientology.

Also Jews living abroad, in Israel, or wherever are all different.

I'm done with this. I have paper to shred.

I'm absolutely outraged at this. Also why I should never come into the forum.

Let's just make gross generalizations about everyone and leave it at that. OMG!

Oh, and I'm supposedly Lutheran. My mother was an atheist. And I am an agnostic. That doesn't keep me from attending religious services. I learn something from them.

Oh, this is blather, I give up. I've never typed so fast and FURIOUS in my life.

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OMG, the point being, one group of fanatics does not an entire religion make. And not an entire group of people make.

This is what you mention, "maybe some sort of urban legend" ... of course. There is so much "urban legend" and crap associated with so many belief systems. Let's add aliens into the mix.

Oh, this is impossible. I am going to vomit again.
 
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