Psychological thoughts instead of existential?

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Samzone

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago

Hello there

Looking for a bit of reassurance and maybe someone who can relate.

Backround:
I’ve had DP/DR in the past for around 1 year previously and fully recovered from it for nearly 3 years. It was the worst year in my life but I believe the experience taught me a lot about the condition and I looked forward to never having to experience that shit again.
Recently, after 3 years of recovery, i‘ve had a relapse of the condition due to my life circumstances. It was my own fault for putting myself in the circumstances that mimicked the exact same ones from my past dealings with it(social isolation and general laziness)

Despite having suffered from it for so long in the past, this feels like a completely new ordeal. I have many of the exact same symptoms but the thoughts and obsessions seem different. I know existential obsessions are the norm, but does anybody else experience more psychological obsessive thoughts?

Like i keep thinking about how thoughts work and how creative thinking works. How does logic work and how much alike are we humans really??? I can spend hours thinking about this, making hypothesis and theories in my head on how these things work. I might get temporary relief after making up a theory i feel is satisfactory, but after a little while i start challenging my own theory, often finding that it dosent work in all scenarios and then i start all over again.

I know i do not need to be thinking about these things. Its not my job to figure these things out and i dont even think scientists and scholars have these things completely figured out, so how the hell am i supposed to do it? I’m afraid of telling people im doing this in my head cause they might think i‘m loosing my mind, which is my worst fear.

Feel free to reach out to me if you need somebody to chat with.

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coolwhip27

· #2 · 5 mo ago (Edited)

I highly relate

IMO creative thought happens spontaneously according to whatever input is being taken in. Creative thought doesn’t happen from contemplation and brooding on one thing or another, then it just becomes analytical

Coming up with ideas and theories that cover a broad spectrum will never work because you’ll end up finding contradicting information later down the road. You seem to understand that already

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coolwhip27

· #10 · 5 mo ago

NoDevils said:
There's probably some relationship between creative giftedness and insanity. Many famous people appear disturbed, including artists who weren't famous while they lived. Disturbed people who function the worst are often closed minded and intellectually handicapped while people who burn brightly in terms of creativity are open minded and intelligent. Think of the level of detachment and discontentment that's necessary to come up with a new critical way of thinking, or the amount of mind-stretching necessary to invent a new formula in mathematics.

I don't think creativity itself causes psychosis. Maybe psychosis is caused by imagining (creating) an experience and then failing to distinguish it from reality. I can imagine my wife is cheating on me but I should be able to distinguish the imaginary from the real, at least to some extent. You should probably look for some empirical basis for your fears rather than blindly adhering to them. If you can't find an empirical basis, or any basis for that matter, consider letting them go. This advice is kind of like telling you not to be scared of the boogeyman in your closet. Yes, in the future you could go a lot more insane. You could also get a stroke, aneurism, heart attack, cancer, or dementia. What's the use worrying?

Highly insightful. In describing the relationship between insanity and creativity it might be found that the less focused a person is on the fundamental basics of realty, the more imaginative and “in the clouds” a person may be, hence both more creative and insane. It’s like trading common sense for some unique sense of perception. This is what I think about myself sometimes

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