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Psychological thoughts instead of existential?

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Hello there

Looking for a bit of reassurance and maybe someone who can relate.

Backround:
I’ve had DP/DR in the past for around 1 year previously and fully recovered from it for nearly 3 years. It was the worst year in my life but I believe the experience taught me a lot about the condition and I looked forward to never having to experience that shit again.
Recently, after 3 years of recovery, i‘ve had a relapse of the condition due to my life circumstances. It was my own fault for putting myself in the circumstances that mimicked the exact same ones from my past dealings with it(social isolation and general laziness)


Despite having suffered from it for so long in the past, this feels like a completely new ordeal. I have many of the exact same symptoms but the thoughts and obsessions seem different. I know existential obsessions are the norm, but does anybody else experience more psychological obsessive thoughts?

Like i keep thinking about how thoughts work and how creative thinking works. How does logic work and how much alike are we humans really??? I can spend hours thinking about this, making hypothesis and theories in my head on how these things work. I might get temporary relief after making up a theory i feel is satisfactory, but after a little while i start challenging my own theory, often finding that it dosent work in all scenarios and then i start all over again.

I know i do not need to be thinking about these things. Its not my job to figure these things out and i dont even think scientists and scholars have these things completely figured out, so how the hell am i supposed to do it? I’m afraid of telling people im doing this in my head cause they might think i‘m loosing my mind, which is my worst fear.

Feel free to reach out to me if you need somebody to chat with.
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I definitely relate with obsessional thinking about psychological stuff. Mine revolves mostly about sorting things to be able to find some ways to navigate my own mind with a bit more feeling of sefety, probably.
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That's very interesting. For me, that might be a bit philosophical and not really applicable in reality, but I don't think free will exists, from some point of view nor does pure creativity. Everything comes from something prior to it. Things don't get born in our minds from a blank page. But what we think comes from our creativity is just what comes from a process that escapes our consciousness or is too blurry for analysis. That's like the difference between analysis and intuition. Intuition is just analysis minus the metacognition (the awareness of the analysis process itself) so we just get the result seemingly out of nothing. But I think consciousness/awareness is rather the rule than the exception (edit: no I mean the opposite). When we look closely, most of what happens in out minds escapes our consciousness. When I try to remember something as simple as how many eggs they usually put in an egg box, I know the result but I don't know what process I use to search for the answer in my knowledge about the world. Do I first day "egg" in my mind and then let some images pop up? What elemental steps. And these elemental steps, what are they made of? When my ears hear a word in my mother tongue, in what language is it translated to for the rest of my brain to "understand" it. What is the "meaning" of something? What is a meaning made of in our minds? Everything is obscure. There is so much unknown but we generally ignore it, or put it aside in a simple concept like the subconscious or creativity.
But I think the people who said psychosis had something to do with creativity (probably psychoanalysts) just could not understand what people with psychosis were talking about and so they put it behind this concept with the rest we don't understand, without knowing that everything works in this way. 99.99% of our thought processes are obscure and if they really believe it is not, I think they didn't look closely enough.
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I feel you brother, even though we do not have the same obsession, I could totally see myself thinking a lot about the same stuff that you do. I think we just need to try and keep our minds occupied with other stuff. I keep telling myself that everything is alright and everything works as intended and I don't need to be thinking about this stuff. My brain functions as it functions, no matter if I figure out how or not. Just like before I got into this state of mind. Good luck, dude :) I know we will recover and this whole thing will be like it never happened. Just a memory of a tough period in our lives.
Oh well, this is not even my obsession. If only...
But I do find this interesting.
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