[DutchMark]

I'm not trying to offend anyone here, but there are way too much "I'm feeling so bad" posts on this forum. I realy don't visit this forum that much anymore since I won't find any positive that makes me feel good again. I completely understand ow desperate you people feel, but I realy don't think it's usefull to post a complete summary of every moment you feel a bit down. I think this has to become the forum again it was when I first came here, a place that was realy helping me and offered some good info. If any of you think this post is for you, it might be best for your own recovery to not obsess that much about DP, cause that's all this posting is, obsessive behavior.
PS, sorry for the bad english

 

[Guest]

Goede suggestsie, Dutchmark.

 

[DutchMark]

dank je, sc

(thanks, sc)

 

[Guest]

I think it's even worse than that.

Here's a "dirty little secret" that many of us obsessive types indulge in, without ever admitting.

Part of the "hook" that keeps us sick/with symptoms is believing in magical thinking.

Sometimes we MUST report our every single bad feeling, because we did it last week, and we somehow did not go insane. so we repeat. And repeat. We end up NEEDING to keep doing things just the way we did them yesterday, because we start to believe that we are "DOING" something right.

We feel totally helpless in our symptoms, and to counteract that helpless feeling, we start to invent MASTERFUL powers - as if we have inside taps into magical actions and words. We think "if I can just say this again, just like I did before..then maybe I can stop the worst from happening again..."

Repeating and repeating and repeating little charms and incantations in the forms of complaints and worries and fears. We become addicted to the very things we swear we want escape from.

Food for thought....really ponder this....it's a HUGE trap for people with psychological symptoms - and its one of the reasons most therapies don't work. the patient is in the session TRYING to look like a good patient, but secretly undoing every single thing she/he learns alone in the night.

Peace,
Janine

recovery is HARD. It is probably the hardest thing you'll ever do. But look at your alternative.

 

[DutchMark]

yeah, I understand some people here are addicted to posting these things here. But realy for their own sake, it's not bad to stop doing this while they feel they MUST do it. I'm the last person to say recovery is easy but you have to start somewhere. And out of my own experience I can say that move on with your live is hard but worth trying.
I'm living a pretty good life right now and everytime I look at the fact why i'm feeling the way i'm feeling I realize it's because i'm not that obsessive about DP anymore.

 

[Guest]

I'm sure I am at fault for this occasionally, but dp dr is a strange beast. There are times when the last thing I want to do is read about how awful someone's day was, but there are times when I really find solace knowing that there are other people going through the same thing.

If someone is feeling down, and needs to release their frustrations then I think they should be able to. My days range from awful to tolerable, and I shouldn't constantly post about how i'm not feeling happy, but if someone else does, then we should not censor them.

Where else can many of us turn, this has become one of my few mediums for expressing myself into those who understand.

You do make some very good points though, and we really shouldn't make this an obsession. I can't get off my computer lately, so its going to be hard for me to stop posting. Its like i'm trying to catch up with soulbrotha for most posts.

 

[DutchMark]

hey ziggo,

I know how you feel I had the exact same thing with reading information on websites, until the point I was certain of having every mental illness there is!
Ofcourse when there is a real need to post your feelings this is the place and I can't blame anyone who is going trough DP.
But's its like janine sad. It's this little habbit to make you think you feel better while everyone knows for a fact that the less time you spend thinking about DP the better you start to feel

 

[dreamcatcher]

there is a positive post in the regaining reality section from jcar.....its nice to read positive posts but also people who have these symptoms post to help relieve there own fears, to try to connect with others in the same boat and make sure they really arent going insane...i think we are all guilty of this from time to time as we sometimes need the reassurence from others that are feeling low

 

[Guest]

My God yes,

It's true what dutchmark and Janine says. I really recognize myself in this obsession of wanting to be reassured and complaining.

I just returned to my family doctor, who is aware of all my symptoms, and she keeps repeating me that healing anxiety is VERY hard. It takes time and therapy and meds. She doesn't want me to go see another psy (except the anxiety clinic for behavioral tricks), because she feels that the diagnosis will be the same. And therapy too. And I took a little more anti-anxiety to calm me down, and I was calmer. And better.

And as silly as it sounds, I feel relieved to hear that. And I KNOW tomorow I will feel anxious again, and depressed again. And I will need reassurance, changing meds, etc.

I WANT to break that cycle. I want to stick with one antidep, that is ALL. And go to that anxious clinic to change my patterns. And maybe open up about all my fears to my psychiatrist. I wrote to him a letter about ALL my fears, but I know it's not the same to talk about it.

Anyway, I want really to change. You know when I was 16 I was anorexic (a bit), and this is a kind of obsession. Then I was obsessed with my skin (acne, that I didn't have but was really convinced I was ugly, and was obsessing about it). My sister had a OCD, and my mother is obsessive about cleaning, without admitting it. She is a freak about washing and cleaning and classing. I KNOW it's hereditary. I just wonder how to break to cycle. Now when I was pregnant I was obsessed about meds for my baby (I was a freak about all I was taking), and other fears that I didn't talk about here. I became obsessed also by the fear of delivery.

Sometimes I hate my family because I look at their problems and I know so much where mine comes from. But how can I heal myself when they even hardly admit that they have a problem and I have one?

Hard, sometimes.

Cynthia xxx

 

[falling_free]

Im not trying to be an arsehole or anything but surely the point of a dp/dr messageboard is to talk about dp/dr , and surely that includes talking about the sympoms. and I have been feeling really really dped today and I just felt I had to offload a load of mental strain, that is to say I needed some reassurance because my dp and dr has been going up and down today , along with my mood.

 

[DutchMark]

And I never said you can't complain on this board. It's just that sometimes you need to realize if its the right thing to do.

 

[Guest]

Yep, sometimes a person just needs to vent, to type out their symptoms, to share their fears. On the other hand, it's also O.K. to put up positive stuff as well.
Not being Dutch, I can't say what precipitated this thread.....but it may have been the responses put up to another one that Gem started, regarding - do something nice for yourself for Christmas. A cheery, positive little post that for some reason degenerated into negativity, whining, false information (the Santa character has nothing to do with Coca-Cola), religious views, etc.
IT WAS A HAPPY LITTLE POST YOU GUYS. And if it's O.K. to put up negative posts, then it's O.K. to put up happy posts too. Jeez...........

 

[Guest]

We're negative people. I'm sorry for having dpdr.

 

[falling_free]

A cheery, positive little post that for some reason degenerated into negativity, whining, false information (the Santa character has nothing to do with Coca-Cola), religious views, etc.

Ha ha that's just my weird sense of humour subversion, I was in stitches when I wrote that post about santa, And I apolosgise if my post came across as whiny , depressive negative whatever, that wasn't t the vibe i was trying to put across, I just like to have a moan sometimes and what better place to moan than on a messagebaord with annonaymous strangers? I mean my posts are always going to relfect my state of mind and if that state of mind is maybe a tad depressed or feels zany then that is how I am going to post related to a topic or whatever, I can't just feel happy on tap.

OMG i sound like a depressing whiny bastard don't I , but im really not that bad really

Oh and here is the truth about santa and his redness, just because I am a miserable C - U you no what

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

 

[Guest]

this complaint has been going on since Andy's board. It's hard to say anything upbeat about DPDR.

There's lots of fun and excitement on the off topic boards though. :wink:

 

[Guest]

All this youth and semi-vitality seems to be pissing people off. My sense of humor has evolved to the point where it needs to be offensive on so many levels to be funny anymore. Some people laugh at a cat wearing a sweater, or Jimmy Fallon, I am unable to laugh at these. I need humor that hits you on fifty different levels and is so funny blood shoots out of your ears. I'm thinking none of you listen to Bill Hicks.

 

[falling_free]

I'm thinking none of you listen to Bill Hicks.

I do i do

I personelly love being as immature as possible as it lifts my sprits and makes me smile and laugh. Like tonight iv'e actaully felt good about my self and my dp has started to lift a bit, humour is a very good medicine.

My sense of humor has evolved to the point where it needs to be offensive on so many levels to be funny anymore.

I think offensive un PC humour is hilarious and I like to laugh at myself as much as others.

 

[Guest]

Bill Hicks was very popular in the UK, and he actually pulled a Hendrix and spent most of his time their touring around because you decent-american stealing bastards laughed at his jokes instead of heckling him.

As offensive as Hicks, you or I may be, it surely has no negative reflection on our character. I only see positive :mrgreen:

 

[Guest]

Damn, i want falling's manic state to cyber-rub off on me...but i'm feeling too narcoleptic and i am wearing my last pair of clean underwear :x which is always a big downer.

 

[falling_free]

Yep im not really an expert on hicks, ive seen a few clips about him (one on the clubbing film classic Human Traffic) and read some quotes by him and He seemed to have an abiltiy to see throygh the bullshit that most people take for granted about life , philospehy etc etc. Something I feel I can identify with.

this is my favioute hicks quote I can certainly see some truth in this statement

And Bill, lamenting how you never see a positive drug story on the news..."Today, a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration and that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and you are the imagination of yourself. Here's Tom with the weather...!"

Yep im a tool fan!