[Guest]

Hi everyone,

Among my other symptoms, while in half dream/half awake state, about 2 times a month since 1998 I will hear a high pitch noise and then catapult out of my body, flying through space for as long or as little as I like. My husband thinks it is a seizure, but I don't have seizures. I can whisper to him "here I go" and he holds me. I am aware of my body, him holding me and where I "am". I can stop it from happening before it does and sometimes do by not going when I hear the high pitch sound, but the pull is incredible and I just go because it feels like I should.
Sometimes I get anxious about it, but mostly I am just AMAZED.

i know it sounds crazy, but it all does actually

Gwen

 

[stickdude]

sleep paralysis? i get that sometimes when i go to sleep late and wake up early. i'm in a half sleep, half awake state, and i can't move at all. they say if you don't fight it, you can have an out-of-body experience, which you may be having.

 

[Guest]

I've gotten sleep paralysis a few times. I had it fairly often when i was having intese anxiety though. There is a definate correlation because i haven't had it in months and i'm fartloads better.

 

[sleepingbeauty]

sleep paralysis and astral projection are totally different things. astral projection usually happens when awake. it used to happen to me daily when i was little its the way your mind shuts off randomly. i remember just walking down the hall and it happening.. or when im about to open a door as soon as i touch the knob ZOOM!!!! im wizzing past planets and solar systems and through gaseous clouds. it doesnt happen to me anymore which is good cause its a little too fun. you fly so freely that you dont want to go back in your body. and when you do you end up feeling disgusting.. heavy.. stuck.

 

[Guest]

Right Sleeping Beauty- I am perfectly in control of my physical (and astral body) - I am not paralyzed. I am just zooming around bast stars and planets.

I wondered if this was a phenomenon that happened more to DP/DR's because of our heightened perceptual response. I agree- it is fun.

Gwen

 

[Guest]

That sounds really frightening to me. Can you stop it (out of body experience) from happening? Do you think you are really flying through space or is it your imagination (ie you feel as though you're flying and your mind's imagination creates a context for the flying sensation). Leaving my body is my biggest fear and it is that fear that started this whole anxiety and dp for me. I became incredibly scared of leaving my body and this eventually developed into a panic disorder. So please don't take offense but I found this post really disturbing and like the LAST thing I wanted to hear.

I think I need some reassurance here!!!

 

[Beth]

Wow. Other people get that too...

This was basically my whole problem, I'm not emotionally numb or unable to concentrate I just feel constantly like my mind is injecting itself with random chemicals. I don't believe in astral projection or even souls, so to feel myself shoot up out of my body, sometimes just above my head sometimes right into space is about the scariest thing that's ever happened to me. So then I was on edge constantly, concentrating really hard on staying in my body. I just posted about this in another thread, but what has made a huge difference to me was surrendering to it completely and just shutting my eyes and riding the high out. It was very weird, I felt completely lost in infinity, but realised (after about an hour) that any reality I construct is inside my mind, that the sense of space I felt was not infinite in every direction but spherical (kind of analogous with it being in my head?) and that I couldn't lose my mind inside my mind...

OK, I realise that none of that makes any sense in those words if you aren't me. But those various revelations still seem to have cured me to a large extent. I'm not scared of anywhere that my mind can go, and so can ignore the dr/p and that makes it almost disappear etc etc.

I'm curious to know how similar our experiences of this are. When you say planets and solar systems and gaseous clouds do you actually see anything? If you have your eyes open do you still in some way see the real normal world? I just feel a vastness that's infused with a beauty that makes me think of stars although I don't actually visually see anything but blackness and little flashes. Oh, and I only ever get it when awake, normally when very awake.

 

[Guest]

I can definitely understand it being scary- especially when you have a tendency for it and it feel like you are out of control. But I never heard of anybody where something bea happens to them (except for fear) When I left as a teenager I got back in immediately- scared to death. I think the fear of it also helped my DP along.

When I left as a child, It was perfectly natural, in fact it saved me from my dark room. I am convinced that I am MEANT to do it. I didn't try- it just happened, and if it just happened, it was meant to.

Now, I remember when doing Reiki I "got stuck" right above my head for a few days a couple of times. It was (according to my belief system) a glitch where I could not get back in line. It felt weird, but no weirder than my other symptoms. Just another odd perception. I started doing grounding, where you visualize roots growing deep into the ground from your feet and with the help of a reiki master, I got re-aligned.

When I go now, it is perfectly voluntary. I have to be "in the vibration" (for me, somewhere in between sleep and wakefulness, for Beth, wide awake Then I hear the high pitch noise and decide "am I going to go"? If I decide yes, I let go. When I decide yes, it is because it is a spiritual experience, when I decide NO it is because I have the creeps. Then I feel a rumbling and as if I am traveling in a very bumpy roller coaster and a feeling like G-Forces against me giving me the impression I am going fast. I always have my physical eyes closed, and my spiritual eyes are closed, but I open my "inner eye" and I see flashes of light fly past me very fast. It feels like I am flying through time and space.

I feel my physical body the whole time. I do not ever NOT feel it. In fact sometimes I get waves of chills come over me (even though I am under the covers). I think about GOD and figure it is something I am supposed to do. I can slip into a lucid dream then and that can be fun too. Because I know I am dreaming I can do things you can't do awake.

It will probably happen tonight because I am talking about it.

Now for the reassurance part. The absolute WORST part of my life is my fear. It always has been. If fear is the worst that really ever happened why fear? Why not let go and enjoy it. This is my philosophy about my OOB's and my DP/DP. But of course that is when I am less fearful. LOL

I know when you are in fear this is the last thing you want to hear. But I believe this is how I was wired for some reason- just me. Just another human experience. And nothing terrible is going to happen to me.

I am 41 and have been doing it my whole life. I don't have a brain tumor, cancer, etc. I am productive and fairly successful. I am just a little different. I can leave me body and I have DP/DR which makes me see the world differently. Most of the time it is an advantage. My life is richer- my husband certainly finds it funny, cute, quirky, vulnerable etc. He says I am perfectly imperfect. I would be paralyzed if I feared this. But I am not and I guess because I don't want to be, I try to accept it as best I can, by telling myself that it is really a lot better than what I fear.

Gwen

 

[Guest]

"It was very weird, I felt completely lost in infinity, but realised (after about an hour) that any reality I construct is inside my mind, that the sense of space I felt was not infinite in every direction but spherical (kind of analogous with it being in my head?) and that I couldn't lose my mind inside my mind...""

yes! yes! I know exactly what you mean. But I think of it in different words. That the Universe exists INSIDE MY mind. Like a hologram. That each part of the whole is a blue print of the whole. So, inside my mind is the Universe. So I cannot get lost inside the universe when it exists inside my mind! "So I can not lose my mind inside my mind". LOL That is GREAT!

You stayed out for an HOUR? That is too funny. I stay out about 10 minutes or so. I get bored! :lol:

 

[gem]

Monika, I understand your fear. Please do not feel frightened it is okay. Some people experience different things in life, those of us who suffer with dp/dr can describe it in many different ways. I believe and have been told that when I experience this sense of out of body feeling it is the brains way of going away from the pain that the brain feels. I am not able to cope with alot of pain so dp/dr kinda take over. You feel spacey or floaty, it depends on each person, everyone will describe it differently or some may feel similarities. It is just sensations. It does not mean that you are actually floating away or out of your body. For some reason it feels this way, some day doctors will understand fully what causes this feeling. We are just trying to express how it feels to be in this, no one is trying to scare anyone, they themselves feels afraid at times and coming here helps because others undertand what they feel.

gem.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for the reassurances. Gem, I know nobody was trying to scare anybody and I hope that I did not give that impression in my post. The tone of my post was scared, not andry or defensive. Sometimes it's hard to come across correctly in these posts.

 

[gem]

Monika, I am so sorry you misunderstood, I know no one was trying to scare anyone. I really did not mean anything like that. I may not have worded it properly.

gem.