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Hey all. Ive heard dpdr can also cause or be comorbid with out of body experiances (OBE's) and sleep paralysis and stuff and i experianced something tonight that scared the crap outta me. Ive had a small OBE that was marijuanna induced nearly three years ago that only lasted a good minute or two where i felt myself start to lift out of my body with an aura of my spirit. Like every fiber of my soul came out and i saw my souls arm above my physical arm. My aura was a dark yellow?? It couldve been a halucination but it felt real. It was wild. I had to fight it to come back down. Anyway.
Ok Idk wtf just happened but i couldnt sleep due to extreme anxiety and confusion over this recovery stage im in in dpdr and put on guided meditation to fall back to sleep and i was still awake and totally in control but it was like sleep paralysis except i could move still and i kept my eyes closed as i was really fucking tired and there was a buzzing and ringing sound which is normally what i hear in sleep paralysis and i suddenly slipped when the buzzing became overwhelming and felt disconnected from everything like i was floating all around my accual body. Keep in mind my meditation video already ended so i dont think it was that. I still felt i could move but i didnt want to for some reason, i just felt incredibly relaxed. I thought for a second i could be dying or something and was terrified that i couldnt do anything about it anyway but then i just let go of my fear and then i felt like a really overwhelming sense of peace and warmth all of a sudden? I feel like i touched death or something (prob a stupid thought)...It was accually a super nice feeling of just peace and i forgot like everything bad, like i was intouch with my true positive self. Then i kept going in and out of the feeling, the buzzing noise going in and out as well and i began to realize i could stop at any time. I felt i might be ok. Then i briefly saw a dark tunnel with slight hues of different colors, mainly green yellow, a little red or blue here and there around the entrance of the tunnel and saw a faint light in the middle before opening my eyes. I still feel like im sinking into the bed or levitating just barely but its going away. Also i am feeling really at peace with my anxiety right now? Now my minds just wandering. Wtf even was that??? Just super extreme dpdr for a couple minutes? Out of body? Something similar to sleep paralysis? REM sleep intrusion with halucination? Or just spiritual? I did feel like i was just floating around my physical body...this is freaking me out...did i almost die? It almost sounds like a near death experiance with the tunnel thing! I am feeling less fearful of death suddenly but i am still disturbed by this and also all the existential thoughts and just EVERYTHING i think recently cause of dpdr. I cant tell if im getting better and these incredible OBE's or whatever feelings make me even more anxious! ????
 

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Id really like somebodys imput on this. It would be apprieciated. I dont know how normal this is or if i should be concerned.
 

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I'd see a neurologist and ask for an EEG. OBEs are also associated with focal temporal lobe seizures. Scientific researchers say that the temporal lobe is "exquisitely prone to insult". Some people moreso than others. Cannabis stresses the functions of the temporal lobe of your brain. If you whack out those functions, there is no guarantee they are going to return to normal. Ergo, DP/DR induced by cannabis.
 

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This is a month old thread but I wanted to weigh in.

I thought I was crazy the first time I experienced an out of body experience due to my depersonalization disorder. Some background: I grew up watching two mentally unfit parents and I learned some terrible coping skills to escape my mind.
Mine depersonalization/dissociation episodes are sudden and severe. In its worse stages, I knew that I would fall into a void and cease to exist, physically. In the midst of a full blown episode I found it helps to force myself to go to sleep. But as my eyes would close and try to rest, I would feel this overwhelming sense of nothing. If that makes sense. I could feel sometimes that those might be my last moments. I would lose days. Not knowing whats going on, blacking out, not hearing someone talking directly to me. Kind of losing my mind. And then it hit. One day at work (kitchen), I came in and tried to eat something because I felt myself leaving my body. Usually sensory stimulation helps. I had the sandwhich in my hand, I vaugely remember a dream like version of my buddy asking me,"are you okay?" and I remember hearing my own voice echo through my head, "yeah, i just need to shake this off."
And blackout. I woke up in a hospital bed with my SO sitting in the chair next to me. And my tongue swollen up. An instant WTF moment. They tell me I had a seizure at work and bounced my head pretty hard off the concrete floor. I had a seizure 5 years prior to this, got tested, nothing came of it. And then i had this one. A little bit more worrisome now because of the context. So I go along, get an EEG done, MRI, a few sleep deprivation test and nothing. I dropped it. I didn't want to deal with it. Surely I could control it. Fast forward a month later (November 2017). Bam, hit the floor again at work. In the midst of an episode. Losing time, spacing out, not sleeping, but also really fatigued. I finally attributed these as stress seizures. BUT they only happened during times I was heavily dissociated from my selse of self. Usually a long drawn out process, coupled with migraines and a heavy vibration/buzzing in the back of my head.
Now where I am going with this, There was one night a couple months ago that I felt that familiar buzzing. I felt like my whole body was vibrating and it was overload. I went to the bathroom to splash some water on my face, and that helped for a moment but this time it was worse. Persistent. I decided to lay on the floor so i wouldn't hurt myself in case I couldn't bring myself out of it. That's when I felt myself being pulled from my body. I FELT it leaving. I pulled myself back in sucessfully the first time, but the second time I detached completely, and stood up in my bathroom. Everything was static. But it felt like there was something ominous outside of the door. Terrifying experience. Unsolicited OBEs.

This really is just my own experience in about a year long active fight against this disorder.
 

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This is a month old thread but I wanted to weigh in.
I thought I was crazy the first time I experienced an out of body experience due to my depersonalization disorder. Some background: I grew up watching two mentally unfit parents and I learned some terrible coping skills to escape my mind.
Mine depersonalization/dissociation episodes are sudden and severe. In its worse stages, I knew that I would fall into a void and cease to exist, physically. In the midst of a full blown episode I found it helps to force myself to go to sleep. But as my eyes would close and try to rest, I would feel this overwhelming sense of nothing. If that makes sense. I could feel sometimes that those might be my last moments. I would lose days. Not knowing whats going on, blacking out, not hearing someone talking directly to me. Kind of losing my mind. And then it hit. One day at work (kitchen), I came in and tried to eat something because I felt myself leaving my body. Usually sensory stimulation helps. I had the sandwhich in my hand, I vaugely remember a dream like version of my buddy asking me,"are you okay?" and I remember hearing my own voice echo through my head, "yeah, i just need to shake this off."
And blackout. I woke up in a hospital bed with my SO sitting in the chair next to me. And my tongue swollen up. An instant WTF moment. They tell me I had a seizure at work and bounced my head pretty hard off the concrete floor. I had a seizure 5 years prior to this, got tested, nothing came of it. And then i had this one. A little bit more worrisome now because of the context. So I go along, get an EEG done, MRI, a few sleep deprivation test and nothing. I dropped it. I didn't want to deal with it. Surely I could control it. Fast forward a month later (November 2017). Bam, hit the floor again at work. In the midst of an episode. Losing time, spacing out, not sleeping, but also really fatigued. I finally attributed these as stress seizures. BUT they only happened during times I was heavily dissociated from my selse of self. Usually a long drawn out process, coupled with migraines and a heavy vibration/buzzing in the back of my head.
Now where I am going with this, There was one night a couple months ago that I felt that familiar buzzing. I felt like my whole body was vibrating and it was overload. I went to the bathroom to splash some water on my face, and that helped for a moment but this time it was worse. Persistent. I decided to lay on the floor so i wouldn't hurt myself in case I couldn't bring myself out of it. That's when I felt myself being pulled from my body. I FELT it leaving. I pulled myself back in sucessfully the first time, but the second time I detached completely, and stood up in my bathroom. Everything was static. But it felt like there was something ominous outside of the door. Terrifying experience. Unsolicited OBEs.
This really is just my own experience in about a year long active fight against this disorder.
Wow, ive never lost consciousness like that due to OBE but i have due to extreme stress. Since im basically recovered now and can think clearer, i now know all of these things are due to extreme stress/anxiety. I still have depression/anxiety issues but as long as i keep them at bay, the dpdr stays away too, thus the OBEs should stay away too since i havent had one since ive felt better. I also grew up in a dysfunctional family. Both my parents drank and my moms mentally unfit as well.
 

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Wow, ive never lost consciousness like that due to OBE but i have due to extreme stress. Since im basically recovered now and can think clearer, i now know all of these things are due to extreme stress/anxiety. I still have depression/anxiety issues but as long as i keep them at bay, the dpdr stays away too, thus the OBEs should stay away too since i havent had one since ive felt better. I also grew up in a dysfunctional family. Both my parents drank and my moms mentally unfit as well.
The funny thing about it is that i used to try to astral project (a forced OBE) as a teen. And I would strive for that sense of mindfulness and inner peace that it would bring. And all in all, when I hit a delusional period or a dissociative period, I get spiritual and gradiose thoughts. And its in these thoughts that it feels like i'm in touch with everything BUT my body and the physical world. I haven't had any OBEs since that night on the bathroom floor but I have had some pretty terrifying sleep paralysis episodes. Which makes me wonder WHY this happens. If its a chemical issue in my brain that i've forced myself to learn. Its completely controllable. I just always need to keep the upperhand on it. Same as me, my depression and anxiety pursues but its much more manageable with breathing and grounding techniques. I have some small depersonalization like episodes but they usually disappear as fast as they come.
 

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The funny thing about it is that i used to try to astral project (a forced OBE) as a teen. And I would strive for that sense of mindfulness and inner peace that it would bring. And all in all, when I hit a delusional period or a dissociative period, I get spiritual and gradiose thoughts. And its in these thoughts that it feels like i'm in touch with everything BUT my body and the physical world. I haven't had any OBEs since that night on the bathroom floor but I have had some pretty terrifying sleep paralysis episodes. Which makes me wonder WHY this happens. If its a chemical issue in my brain that i've forced myself to learn. Its completely controllable. I just always need to keep the upperhand on it. Same as me, my depression and anxiety pursues but its much more manageable with breathing and grounding techniques. I have some small depersonalization like episodes but they usually disappear as fast as they come.
Ive experianced some crazy scary sleep paralysis episodes too. Ive never explored OBE's due to how much fear it strikes in me since i think im dying or something. I noticed i only started experiancing sleep paralysis after discovering it existed. I had watched a documentary about peoples sleep paralysis and then that same night i had my first episode. I think it might just be a state of mind, rather than a chemical imbalance but i cant be sure as im pretty sure it happened to me the first time due to me being super afraid of experiancing it and thinking about it too vividly, who knows...
 
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