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Despite the fact I think its completely innapropriate to call them "psycho-troubles", I voted no because what you describe as "psycho-troubles" IS what DP/DR is. Thoughts questioning existence etc, depression, anxiety all of it.
 
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Matt210 said:
Despite the fact I think its completely innapropriate to call them "psycho-troubles", I voted no because what you describe as "psycho-troubles" IS what DP/DR is. Thoughts questioning existence etc, depression, anxiety all of it.
Then why does it have "better" reality testing?
Janine? Hello?

And, why does DP/DR effect "will" and "anger expression" and induce "pacifist" behaviour?... And have better reality testing. How's that mental illness... it's like INVERTED NEUROSIS...
I'm sleepy...
 
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Inflammed said:
MY dp/dr is 95% physical...
The only psychological part is when I worry about it and provoke it or make it worst...
Your "body" dissociates???
Urh. gross. that's...very freaky.

Why is that? Why do I just feel it's my head?
Did you have "issues" criticism about your physique etc???
Did you try to disconnect from your body?
 

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Inflammed said:
MY dp/dr is 95% physical...
The only psychological part is when I worry about it and provoke it or make it worst...
Your "body" dissociates???
Urh. gross. that's...very freaky.

Why is that? Why do I just feel it's my head?
Did you have "issues" criticism about your physique etc???
Did you try to disconnect from your body?
DP is body related, it's the perception of the self and physical self that is altered no ?
DR is more affecting the environnement, people, places and distortions of what you see and feel about it...

Thats what I tought...I'm 70% DP, 30% DR....
Never had DR before benzo (xanax) use.

I never had any considerable issus concerning my body...my DP/DR was all drug indiced...
 
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Inflammed said:
DP is body related, it's the perception of the self and physical self that is altered no ?
DR is more affecting the environnement, people, places and distortions of what you see and feel about it...

Thats what I thought...I'm 70% DP, 30% DR....
Never had DR before benzo (xanax) use.

I never had any considerable issues concerning my body...my DP/DR was all drug induced...
In reading your first sentance YES YES YES I have DP of my head & neck. You wrote it correctly, for once..

I feel like I could just reach up and move my hand straight through my head, like it's evaporated and my head & neck are missing. Like it's a hologram sitting on top of my shoulders. I've got my hand resting on my chin now, but I still feel that my neck and forehead could be "passed straight through" with my hand.

You "got" DR from Zanax? Wow, that was "helpful" for you then..

Your DP/DR was all drug induced.

Where's the relationship between "anxiety" disorder DP/DR and drug-induced DP/DR?
Why do some people experience it from trauma, and others from chemical manipulation?
Where's the "relationship" to it being from Anxiety in both cases?
I mean.. Janine first went into DP after just stepping outside to go to school one day.. I dont really know what caused it.

It's DEFINATELY a moment of "distraction" and sensory overload though.

Maybe "serotonin" "dopamine" and "glutamate" arn't the right chemical..
Maybe during drug use, and anxiety a certain brain chemical gets fired that goes into over-production and causes the DP/DR.. I want to use Naltrexone to help me out with my handful of draining immune system problems, but it's only "free" if you're an alcoholic.. I just have a "feeling" that switching OFF my endorphin/Adrenaline/Endogenous opiod receptors will "do" something.. I just have a feeling.
Although, I'm also the sort of person with SUCH "brain mush" that tablets breaking the blood brain barrier might kill me right now.

I'm also interested in "bio-feedback" a therapy that uses an EEG monitor to help you calm your brainwave response to life..

But I insulted all the bio-feedback providers I rang with my highly paranoid screaming.. They wont be helping out.

I like to "solve" puzzles. Which is why I hate stupid talk therapy and drugs that dont work (Neuroleptics, etc)
 
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:roll: Do your Parents just..

I had a problem with all my brain damage.

I needed months and months of seclusion to rest while my brain "gave up".

But, I found that my Parents, friends, relatives, Doctors all got highly aggressive, pushy, rude, demanding, irritated, overly forthright, Paranoid, attention-seeking, inconsiderate, insensitive & angry.

Does everyone here "recovering" from Benzo withdrawal get hammered mentally by everyone around them in ways that defy reason? In ways they NEVER dared before, and when you haven't even DONE anything first?

Or do they give you space, accept your current brain damage and let it be. Letting you sleep & isolate yourself as you recover?

It got SO BAD that I had to leave home. People kept wanting my attention. Kept asking me questions & acting hysterical in my face. They kept trying to "get me to react" and were pushing REALLY REALLY hard for me to react hysterically - Which is hard to do with severe brain damage.
It was like living surrounded by evil WILD ANIMALS, all pointing the finger, calling me Schizo. The furious irritated RAGE everyone exhibited was.. Deathly.

Everyone says.. O, they were stressed for the 9 years of your ILLNESS when you got WELL, ghost, your family and friends were releasing their built up stress.. Erm. Well THEIR "built up stress" was de-stabilising me into severe mental illness, thankyou.

My old Psychiatrist said I was "confusing" signals, and that everyone around me was caring and loving and lending a helping hand, but that I was paranoid.
Nah.. My imagination isn't THAT out-of-control. I wouldn't BOTHER to make up such accusations.. It would of HELPED if my Psychiatrist would have WARNED my near & dear that neurological shut down was possible (especially in a MIND-CONTROL family) just a tip.

I had to "move out of home", set myself up independently while it felt like I was being "FOLLOWED" by a pack of screaming lunatic MANIACS, and while my neurological function was zero

So. Do you BENZO withdrawal people just stay in BED all day at mummy and daddys house eating CHIPS as you eat soup and sleep alot, huh?
 

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Where's the "relationship" to it being from Anxiety in both cases?
I think it's because DP/DR brings anxiety, but they all see it backwards.

So. Do you BENZO withdrawal people just stay in BED all day at mummy and daddys house eating CHIPS as you eat soup and sleep alot, huh?
What do you mean by that ?
I stopped working only 1 week during all this withdrawal...
So I tried to go on with my life like a robot...only doing what I had to do.
Trying to ignore the life-threatning symptoms...
And working kinda saved me from this horrific nightmare.
My mind was trying to focus on work...while my body was slowly dying, but I made it through...day by day.
Conquering my fears one after another...slowly regaining my old reality wich is DP/DR.

What was your initial l problem before you took any pills Ghost ?

Does everyone here "recovering" from Benzo withdrawal get hammered mentally by everyone around them in ways that defy reason? In ways they NEVER dared before, and when you haven't even DONE anything first?
Yeah of course...people around me just don't understand what's happening to me...
I sometimes even doubt of my own judgement reagarding all this withdrawal lasting almost 1 year already...
They all tell me to start training, do jogging or bicycle...but even when I'm waking up in the morning my heart hurts, flutters and seems to be badly damaged...

I feel like my blood has been poisoned...
I feel like my mind is possesed...

What are you doing of your life Ghost (work, friends, hobbies apart from reading all medical journals) :wink: ?

And stop saying I sound like an old man...I;m trying my best with english :roll:
 
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