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When the NODID.ORG web site was recreated, I set-up the message form on the NODID.ORG contact page to go to the e-mail address [email protected]. This address was intended to forward all of the messages to my current e-mail address. I was getting a constant e-mail flow over the last year, so I never thought to examine if it was not set-up properly. During a complete overhaul of the system, I realized my error, which has been occurring since March of 2007.

Yesterday, I discovered that the [email protected] address was not forwarding the e-mails to me, and was simply storing them. The result is 208 e-mails over a year's span, which have very legitimate questions and concerns and all of them were ignored, but only because I never received them.

I am truly embarrassed and concerned for what consequences this may have had for some individuals. I am now beginning the task to go through the e-mails, and browsing the content, organizing them by priority, and then I will address them.

I am truly sorry for this very serious error,

David
 
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I sent you 50 e-mails... I put my blood, sweet and tears into them! :cry: and all you can say it sorry? :evil:

LOL. Where you been David? Soom one's got a crush on you... lol :wink: (It's a she which is a bonus ya? lol)
 

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I have to take advantage of some humor on this message board when I can and my blushing; I appreciate the kind words and jokes. I have had people question my intentions, or blame me or NODID for many different conspiracy theories, and it is heart breaking. I want to show that I am doing my best to understand and work with the community, and as I continue to work towards my graduate degree I will never forget why I have chosen to work in this field.

It has been a very stressful time for me. As an undergraduate student, I am learning so much from my Advisory Board, and have had the honor to work with Dr. Simeon, who allowed me to design a study and utilize resources with Mount Sinai School of Medicine and access to her knowledge to create published research that is designed to show the clinical community the validity of Depersonalization and Derealization as complex disorders with unique symptoms -- we all know that DP often gets thrown aside simply as a symptom of another disorder and the diagnostic criteria is extremely vague in the DSM-IV-TR.

However, we are working to show this is a distinct, quantifiable, and very serious condition with many different experiences that vary among the community. Working on the research, trying to interact with other researchers, and reading and trying to respond to hundreds of e-mails from people who are suffering from both DP/DR and HPPD is very difficult and often a very draining experience. I may receive a 4 page e-mail from an individual, an e-mail with their heart and soul poured into every word, and I must admit that at times I am extremely frustrated that I do not have my advanced degree at the time to be able to answer the questions or provide the help that is necessary. Additionally, DP/DR are such difficult conditions to treat, and when I review the treatments that have been tried, the rates of suicide ideation, and the number of individuals on disability because of these disorders, I become more energized to work harder to legitimize the disorder and work to get funding for further research for DP/DR. It is critical that we establish Depersonalization disorder with all of the unique symptoms that accompany the disorder, which vary from patient to patient, in the DSM-V.

I do not have Depersonalization Disorder, but I have read through the 60+ pages, single spaced, of responses and stories from individuals from this message board about their disorder in our study. Although my focus began with Hallucinogen-induced disorders, I found that DP/DR often accompany drug-induced problems. Independent of this relationship, DP/DR caused from ANY trauma or DP/DR without a precipitating event has affected me at a very emotional level. Looking at almost 400 sets of responses from the study that we designed, we know that each row in our statistical software is a person, one of you, who has feelings and are dealing with a very serious and often misunderstood disorder.

It has been an honor to have this community take the time to answer the questions for the study, and to trust a small group of individuals to work with Dr. Simeon to create the most comprehensive Depersonalization and Derealization disorder database of information that exists to date. We are looking forward to the publication, and it looks like it will make it in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. We address treatment methods, and we have such an extensive collection of descriptive statistics that the paper had to be shortened, and the final manuscript was still 25 pages long.

It has been a unique road for my life to get to this point, and I will continue to work to the next level as an advocate in any way I can. In addition to working this year at a regular job to pay off debts in order to return to school next fall.

Thank you to the members who have trusted their information with us, and when the second publication comes out, I am sure that everyone will feel it was worth the years we have worked on it. It will be very authoritative and is designed to change the hearts and minds of clinicians about the seriousness and constellation of symptoms experiences by a person with DP/DR.

Again, thank you for the jokes. I appreciate these much more than individuals who question the integrity of individuals who are working after other jobs, volunteers who work at no cost, including Dr. Simeon and her staff, to help out a small non-profit organization work with this message board to create such an amazing paper. That is why we acknowledge this web site, because people on here helped guide the questions, so I consider both the study that is already published in Psychiatry Research, and this new study as a work co-designed by those individuals who helped me by providing questions they wanted answers to.

Best wishes to everyone, and thank you for your support.

David
 

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That message brought me to tears.

Thanks for your help - it really is appreciated.

It's nice to know that there are more people out there dedicated to know more about something that they have not themselves experienced.

If anyone ever needs help or assistance/volunteers for anything anxiety/dp/dr related i will help.

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I have had individuals say that I was pocketing donation money to fund my schooling, etc. Then I showed not only that we have never received more than 1500 dollars in a single year, but that I am the biggest contributor and also the time I put into the work. I receive no money, but I do receive two very important things: 1) The satisfaction of being part of the solution and 2) Having publications with Dr. Simeon in such prestigious journals and putting together such a talented group of doctors in the advisory and regular board opens up my academic career tremendously.

I am still waiting to hear from Dr. Simeon regarding the final publication and if it will be in the pages of the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. This would be a tremendous achievement, and really put out so much great information about DP/DR based on all of your responses and then people on the board can use it to help themselves get help.

This month, I paid for the web hosting for all of my related web sites, and I will seek donations to work on that. I am also working on redoing a significant part of the company and also the web site will be completely overhauled.

Best,

David
 

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This is why I do what I do.

I have changed the names, and these are about 2 years old, but here are a few e-mails from HPPD sufferers that I received that put me to tears. The first was when i spoke to a man (which I refer to as John), who was in the military and has had HPPD for 30+ years. I usually like to start out a phone call with an HPPD sufferer with, "Ok, before you talk I want to tell you exactly what you are seeing right now." After they hear how detailed I know the symptoms, because I have them, they usually break down to tears. They have spent 15+ years trying to find someone else who REALLY knows, and they found it -- someone to talk to. The second is self-explanatory.

? ?David, I have got to tell you what is on mind today. There are people that pop into our live,, sometimes out of nowhere who don't realize they are an angel and a god sent to another. God gives us all gifts and angels to guide us through our sometimes very traumatic and scary journey . You are such a an angel.................................................... I have noticed a big difference in John since he talked with you. He is more up beat and has not been sad. He couldn't stop talking about how good it felt to talk to someone for the first time in his life who understood what he feels like. You have re-ignited a ray hope just when his finally had burned but after twenty some years. Thank You you kind soul.....................Jane?

? ?I can't begin to thank you enough for calling me and giving me so much of your time and invaluable information and understanding. Most important, you've given me hope. I also want to thank you for the e- mail you sent me. As I was reading it and finally seeing in print feelings I've been living with for thirty years, I literally broke down and sobbed like a baby because I thought no one could ever understand, and now I know you do. I look forward to hearing from you again. What you're doing for people like me is nothing short of a miracle. God bless you!"

How could I give up on this? This means everything to some people, and it does for me. This is my driving force.

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Thank you for your offer, but I do understand that my message board is populated with individuals with a neurological disorder that is often accompanied by comorbid psychological disorders (by definition it is a message board for individuals with a diagnosable mental disorder and many are very distressed). So, I must expect these type of things. Additionally, I think it is healthy for individuals to question the process and what NODID is doing (even though we are an extremely small group of students and researchers volunteering this as an extra job). It even happened on this web site. For example, I designed the study for DP/DR about 4 years ago, and I mentioned that it takes a very long time to finally complete the statistical work, write the manuscripts, and submit them to journals. Then we must wait for the journals to have a peer review of the manuscripts, then choose to deny or accept it, followed by a list of revisions required for publication, and followed by another 6 month wait period until the publication is finally put in print. To compound the time delay, Dr. Simeon's team and NODID's members are doing the work at no cost, so we are working in between all of our busy schedules and other jobs/publications. The first publication that we put out, which is aimed to help define the different symptoms of DP/DR that cluster together, not only included Dr.Simeon, Brenna (of dpselfhelp.com and Director of NODID), Karina (a member of NODID and at the time a intern of Dr. Simeon), and me, but also doctors Roxanne Dujour and Timo Giesbrecht from the Netherlands. It was a truly collaborative effort. The final paper is much more comprehensive, with 25 pages of information and submitted to a journal with significantly more impact.

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If I may, I am sure we cannot be more grateful for the amount of effort and work being done in the research of these disorders.A huge thanks to all the volunteers, health professionals and participants (the dpselfhelp members) for there invaluable contribution, which will ultimately help and comfort us sufferers.

Who knows, with the marvels of modern medicine, there may be a cure or at least a more comprehensive and structured support programme for this, we must be positive.

From living a normal healthy life for 40 years, and then only becoming a sufferer of DP/DR after so many years, it has not only been an incredible difficult adjustment, but a huge challenge,which brings a new perspective to life itself. The most humbling of this experience apart from the day to day personal challenges, is reading peoples posts, and how there lives are thrown into turmoil from the effects of DP/DR and HPPD. Then there are the other extremely touching stories of courage, and how the power and strength of the human spirit endures in all of us.

I never knew there was anything like this, and I was totally lost and exasperated, until discovering this website, and I can say, this forum has not only been a lifesaver for me, but I am sure I speak on behalf of many sufferers.

Bless you all.
 
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