The terrible thoughts of infinity and the mystery of existence have created anguish in myself, at certain points in time, since about 11 years old.
I used to call them 'existence attacks' until I found this forum and realised it was DR (or DP?).
I don't think that the universe will be so cruel as to curse souls with insanity and torment 'forever'. The core religious teachings tell us that beyond the pale there is love and a unified God... but that in this incarnation on earth we suffer. Why else the 'rest in peace' at the graveside in christian burials?
I suspect part of us really dies when we die...and that our soul is not the same as our conciousness....its with us when we sleep, at a deeper level.
Time, space etc are constructs of conciousness. They do not exist in the same way when you are asleep, why should they after death?
Still, its as if my (our) souls are so disconnected they are trapped in a private hell when thinking the bad thoughts... its a sort of warped hyperconciousness, overclocked computer.
I';ve had a couple of horrid experiences on cannabis, which suggests there is a lot of brain chemistry involved. Obivously when you are dead, you're brain rots, so conciousness post death has to be different.
There will be no physical body to get anxious for a start! Much less of an 'I' as well.
I think a trap is to take it too seriously...as if somehow you are tasting 'reality' and staring into the void as it really is. I'm not sure that that is the case.
I suspect most of what we are taught about the universe in our culture is just wrong. Even the notion of 'space', of things being far away, may be very different when you are actually in space - synchronicities, telepathy etc which are pretty common among people I know at a low level, all fly in the face of established models.
So I kind of think parts of our psyches are like poor mice locked in a black box with a bunch of lies - spiritually bereft, standed and terrified.
I've started seeing a counsellor/energy healer. When she first touched my head, she said it was 'like a freighttrain coming out'! <laugh>
Working on the body has been a great help - the DR episodes I have are thankfully intermittent, and I do think that anxiety, tension etc are part of the problem.
Telling my wife about my recent bout of anixety with DR thinking also helped. I can be a very selfcentered, cutoff and anxious person - reaching out is important for me to heal, I know that now.
I suspect many on this board are very intellectual deep thinker types, and mental anguish and difficulties does seem to be a common problem for that type of person (as well as very creative types). There may be cultural aspects to this as well, not enough grounding, minds getting to much folding in on itself, incorrect models and myths about reality itself, poorly constructed egos: as well as malfunctioning brain chemistry.
The terror of existence and the vile DR state I don;t think is an ultimate truth, even though it feels like it...
I don;t think our deeper selves fear death...its perfectly natural, like sleep. I reckon its the upper mind that gets screwed up.
I now identify 'DR' thoughts as a product of anxiety and a troubled mind, and try to just move on, and address the anxiety and heal myself.
Fortunately I've had months or years without DR attacks so I know its only temporary.
AM
I used to call them 'existence attacks' until I found this forum and realised it was DR (or DP?).
I don't think that the universe will be so cruel as to curse souls with insanity and torment 'forever'. The core religious teachings tell us that beyond the pale there is love and a unified God... but that in this incarnation on earth we suffer. Why else the 'rest in peace' at the graveside in christian burials?
I suspect part of us really dies when we die...and that our soul is not the same as our conciousness....its with us when we sleep, at a deeper level.
Time, space etc are constructs of conciousness. They do not exist in the same way when you are asleep, why should they after death?
Still, its as if my (our) souls are so disconnected they are trapped in a private hell when thinking the bad thoughts... its a sort of warped hyperconciousness, overclocked computer.
I';ve had a couple of horrid experiences on cannabis, which suggests there is a lot of brain chemistry involved. Obivously when you are dead, you're brain rots, so conciousness post death has to be different.
There will be no physical body to get anxious for a start! Much less of an 'I' as well.
I think a trap is to take it too seriously...as if somehow you are tasting 'reality' and staring into the void as it really is. I'm not sure that that is the case.
I suspect most of what we are taught about the universe in our culture is just wrong. Even the notion of 'space', of things being far away, may be very different when you are actually in space - synchronicities, telepathy etc which are pretty common among people I know at a low level, all fly in the face of established models.
So I kind of think parts of our psyches are like poor mice locked in a black box with a bunch of lies - spiritually bereft, standed and terrified.
I've started seeing a counsellor/energy healer. When she first touched my head, she said it was 'like a freighttrain coming out'! <laugh>
Working on the body has been a great help - the DR episodes I have are thankfully intermittent, and I do think that anxiety, tension etc are part of the problem.
Telling my wife about my recent bout of anixety with DR thinking also helped. I can be a very selfcentered, cutoff and anxious person - reaching out is important for me to heal, I know that now.
I suspect many on this board are very intellectual deep thinker types, and mental anguish and difficulties does seem to be a common problem for that type of person (as well as very creative types). There may be cultural aspects to this as well, not enough grounding, minds getting to much folding in on itself, incorrect models and myths about reality itself, poorly constructed egos: as well as malfunctioning brain chemistry.
The terror of existence and the vile DR state I don;t think is an ultimate truth, even though it feels like it...
I don;t think our deeper selves fear death...its perfectly natural, like sleep. I reckon its the upper mind that gets screwed up.
I now identify 'DR' thoughts as a product of anxiety and a troubled mind, and try to just move on, and address the anxiety and heal myself.
Fortunately I've had months or years without DR attacks so I know its only temporary.
AM
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