[Livinglife11]

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[Trith]

I struggled with DPDR for almost 3 years but I believe only because I constantly obsessed, I no longer suffer from DP at all but I do get hints of DR from time to time but I’m sure that will diminish also in time. This forum is great that you can communicate with others and give yourself a sense of relief but I see too many people over engaging here. The fact you’re always on here obsessing and reading to get a sense of short lived relief is keeping you in the cycle of it all you will never recover when you’re constantly trying to recover and obsessing about it each and every day. It’s nothing but a loop of anxiety. It’s time to move on and get engaged in real life work, gym, hobbies and just doing things you love and that’s how I got to the stage that I am at now. I use to constantly obsess check this forum every day but it’s just wasted time the bottom line is no one is promised anything no one knows what’s around the corner and would you really like to look back and all you’ve done is obsess over this stupid condition? you have one life please don’t waste it just try your hardest to get out there and live and shortly you will look back and you won’t even remember what it was like to feel this way I promise.

You're giving too much advice, it's part of the disease. You need to make more progress yourself to recover. I can explain you how to do it too if you want.

 

[leminaseri]

I struggled with DPDR for almost 3 years but I believe only because I constantly obsessed, I no longer suffer from DP at all but I do get hints of DR from time to time but I’m sure that will diminish also in time. This forum is great that you can communicate with others and give yourself a sense of relief but I see too many people over engaging here. The fact you’re always on here obsessing and reading to get a sense of short lived relief is keeping you in the cycle of it all you will never recover when you’re constantly trying to recover and obsessing about it each and every day. It’s nothing but a loop of anxiety. It’s time to move on and get engaged in real life work, gym, hobbies and just doing things you love and that’s how I got to the stage that I am at now. I use to constantly obsess check this forum every day but it’s just wasted time the bottom line is no one is promised anything no one knows what’s around the corner and would you really like to look back and all you’ve done is obsess over this stupid condition? you have one life please don’t waste it just try your hardest to get out there and live and shortly you will look back and you won’t even remember what it was like to feel this way I promise.

youre completely right. there is no real recovery for any mental illness with use of psychiatric treatment. meds just kill all the receptors in the brain and if they take them long enough there is no serotonin or what else ever needed xd because there are no more receptors at all. sorry, i dont want to offend anybody. but people with high mental strentgh do it to overcome this dpdr. psychiatry is just legal drug mafia

edit: so ssri kills receptors to make more serotonin available for the brain right? if i take that horse shit for 2 years and my brain already produces more serotonin than i have receptors, what happens than?
anhedonia✅
emotional numbness✅
libido loss✅
apathy✅

just think about how dumb this is. an example:

lets assume you make a business. (i know, it is totally dumb but it does explain my point). you collect water from the rain with bottles and then sell them. your business is going very good. you have 50 bottles which become filled every day. you become very successfull and you make much money. then there come days where the rain becomes less and less. you think „well if i just set up 10 bottles, they will still become filled“.

such an idiotic approach is the idea of ssri. people become with time soo dumb that they cant notice the difference anymore how their mind works. seriously xd

edit 2: often people who have became lovesick or griefing start to take antidepressants, because they become misdiagnosed by the greedy docs after a while they recover from their pain naturally and they write on the paper „we treated this prticipant with a ssri successfully“ hahahahaha sooooo bullshiitt hhahah. and sorry dont wanna offend anybody but everybody who trusts in psychiatry has an below average IQ. you just have to think about this a lil bit. how the fuck can they develop meds for an organ they know ALMOST NOTHING about? how? seriously xd

 

[Livinglife11]

You're giving too much advice, it's part of the disease. You need to make more progress yourself to recover. I can explain you how to do it too if you want.

 

[Benjaminsax1]

What do you mean over engaging. It’s easy for you to say now you’re recovered where would you be if you hadn’t communicated with others who understand?

 

[Trith]

im pretty much recovered had the odd flash oF DR maybe once a month and just trying to give people some hope because there’s nothing but negativity on this site.

Well, since you make assumptions about people's level of recovery, about what is wrong with them and about what they have to do, and about whether or not they will recover, with absolutely no credential to do so, I assume you allow me to do the same with you. So I don't think you have recovered because you give too much advice and you still believe in the power of your mind over the disease and over others which is typical of people with DPDR, there is almost none of that in other disorders I have seen (except maybe anxiety). You might not have symptoms today but you still have the mindset that causes DPDR to happen and you suffer with co-dependency (trying to cure others to compensate the lack of control you have over your own life).
You simply could have shared your own story and shared what worked for you and that would have been absolutely fine for me, but you decided to come and tell people what is wrong with their personal life and tell them what they have to do. That's plenty of negativity to me, hence your need to keep recovering. In general people start regarding this kind co-dependant behavior as immature and unhealthy around the end of teenagehood.
If you want to "give hope" to people just talk about your own experience and don't tell them what to do. Receiving unrequested advice/orders about one's personal life is a form of aggression and crossing boundaries aimed at inflating your own ego, not at helping others. This is not how normal people give hope to others. I'm pretty sure that if you google "how to help people who suffer with .... " there is no page that will advise you to "tell them what's wrong with them and if they disagree force it on them".
I predict you will feel attacked by this comment, act surprized, and not even realize I am just mirroring what you just did in your original post.

 

[leminaseri]

Well, since you make assumptions about people's level of recovery, about what is wrong with them and about what they have to do, and about whether or not they will recover, with absolutely no credential to do so, I assume you allow me to do the same with you. So I don't think you have recovered because you give too much advice and you still believe in the power of your mind over the disease and over others which is typical of people with DPDR, there is almost none of that in other disorders I have seen (except maybe anxiety). You might not have symptoms today but you still have the mindset that causes DPDR to happen and you suffer with co-dependency (trying to cure others to compensate the lack of control you have over your own life).
You simply could have shared your own story and shared what worked for you and that would have been absolutely fine for me, but you decided to come and tell people what is wrong with their personal life and tell them what they have to do. That's plenty of negativity to me, hence your need to keep recovering. In general people start regarding this kind co-dependant behavior as immature and unhealthy around the end of teenagehood.
If you want to "give hope" to people just talk about your own experience and don't tell them what to do. Receiving unrequested advice/orders about one's personal life is a form of aggression and crossing boundaries aimed at inflating your own ego, not at helping others. This is not how normal people give hope to others. I'm pretty sure that if you google "how to help people who suffer with .... " there is no page that will advise you to "tell them what's wrong with them and if they disagree force it on them".
I predict you will feel attacked by this comment, act surprized, and not even realize I am just mirroring what you just did in your original post.

xd

 

[Livinglife11]

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[coolwhip27]

Well, since you make assumptions about people's level of recovery, about what is wrong with them and about what they have to do, and about whether or not they will recover, with absolutely no credential to do so, I assume you allow me to do the same with you. So I don't think you have recovered because you give too much advice and you still believe in the power of your mind over the disease and over others which is typical of people with DPDR, there is almost none of that in other disorders I have seen (except maybe anxiety). You might not have symptoms today but you still have the mindset that causes DPDR to happen and you suffer with co-dependency (trying to cure others to compensate the lack of control you have over your own life).
You simply could have shared your own story and shared what worked for you and that would have been absolutely fine for me, but you decided to come and tell people what is wrong with their personal life and tell them what they have to do. That's plenty of negativity to me, hence your need to keep recovering. In general people start regarding this kind co-dependant behavior as immature and unhealthy around the end of teenagehood.
If you want to "give hope" to people just talk about your own experience and don't tell them what to do. Receiving unrequested advice/orders about one's personal life is a form of aggression and crossing boundaries aimed at inflating your own ego, not at helping others. This is not how normal people give hope to others. I'm pretty sure that if you google "how to help people who suffer with .... " there is no page that will advise you to "tell them what's wrong with them and if they disagree force it on them".
I predict you will feel attacked by this comment, act surprized, and not even realize I am just mirroring what you just did in your original post.

How are you doing any better? You’re attempting to make a fact out of him being wrong, which is actually even the opposite of what you think he wants. Stop attacking peoples character while simultaneously rejecting any involvement in it. Using words and insults like “inflated ego” as if yours has dissipated as you type that. What was he doing again? Giving recovery advice not to your satisfactory. I’m 100% convinced you’re the one in misery most the time, as it seems like you can only help yourself by dwelling on these forums and casting doubt to the validity of every soul with an opinion.

 

[coolwhip27]

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Livinglife11, I encourage you to stay on these forums and spread positivity to people who need it. Ignore the trolls, try not to feed them like I just did.

 

[Trith]

How are you doing any better? You’re attempting to make a fact out of him being wrong, which is actually even the opposite of what you think he wants. Stop attacking peoples character while simultaneously rejecting any involvement in it. Using words and insults like “inflated ego” as if yours has dissipated as you type that. What was he doing again? Giving recovery advice not to your satisfactory. I’m 100% convinced you’re the one in misery most the time, as it seems like you can only help yourself by dwelling on these forums and casting doubt to the validity of every soul with an opinion.

None of what I said about him matters, whether I actually think it or not, because I am precisely arguing that it's wrong to tell someone what they should do with their life when they didn't ask for your opinion. I am just mirroring what he is doing as an example. There is no arguing if what I say is correct or incorrect, because no one should do that in the first place. Whether or not I or him have actually recovered more than the other one is absolutely irrelevant, I am not even going to go there.

Telling me I have hurt someone: yes, telling me I am giving wrong information: yes, telling me my argument is bad: yes, telling me I am giving bad (requested) advice: yes, telling me what to do with my personal life: no, giving me unrequested diagnosis: no. Because it's nobody's buisness. When the answer is yes we can argue everything you want, when the answer is no there is no arguing and there is no discussion, you just don't do that at all and if this is too frustrating for someone they should keep it for their therapy sessions. This is not just me and it's not just here, it's a basic life skill. "Don't give unrequested advice about someone's personal life". It's all here in this sentence. If I don't want someone's advice on my personal life I don't see why I should still get it.

If you are cooking in your own house I don't break in to tell you the seasoning is bad and you should do it my way because I am a great cook, especially if the only one eating that food is you. Now what you are doing is discussing if whether or not I am a better cook than him or if whether or not his cooking advice is a good one. But I don't care, it's my food. It's going into my mouth, not anyone else's. But if someone thinks the food I put in my own mouth is bad they can tell it to their therapist or write it in their diary if they want to.

 

[coolwhip27]

None of what I said about him matters, whether I actually think it or not, because I am precisely arguing that it's wrong to tell someone what they should do with their life when they didn't ask for your opinion. I am just mirroring what he is doing as an example. There is no arguing if what I say is correct or incorrect, because no one should do that in the first place. Whether or not I or him have actually recovered more than the other one is absolutely irrelevant, I am not even going to go there.

Telling me I have hurt someone: yes, telling me I am giving wrong information: yes, telling me my argument is bad: yes, telling me I am giving bad (requested) advice: yes, telling me what to do with my personal life: no, giving me unrequested diagnosis: no. Because it's nobody's buisness. When the answer is yes we can argue everything you want, when the answer is no there is no arguing and there is no discussion, you just don't do that at all and if this is too frustrating for someone they should keep it for their therapy sessions. This is not just me and it's not just here, it's a basic life skill. "Don't give unrequested advice about someone's personal life". It's all here in this sentence. If I don't want someone's advice on my personal life I don't see why I should still get it.

If you are cooking in your own house I don't break in to tell you the seasoning is bad and you should do it my way because I am a great cook, especially if the only one eating that food is you. Now what you are doing is discussing if whether or not I am a better cook than him or if whether or not his cooking advice is a good one. But I don't care, it's my food. It's going into my mouth, not anyone else's. But if someone thinks the food I put in my own mouth is bad they can tell it to their therapist or write it in their diary if they want to.

There is no ultimate “golden rule” which excuses your behavior. You decided to take offense to an impersonal post not directed at you. Im quite sure the post was not directed as a message to Trith, so trith can just eat their “food” without responding to posts that aren’t to their liking. After refuting the OP’s claimed recovery without having been personally attacked, I think you are well deserved of being given all and any unrequested personal life advice. I can make my own golden rules too. You should just leave, because I’m getting unrequested replies back from you, which is a big no no.

 

[Livinglife11]

None of what I said about him matters, whether I actually think it or not, because I am precisely arguing that it's wrong to tell someone what they should do with their life when they didn't ask for your opinion. I am just mirroring what he is doing as an example. There is no arguing if what I say is correct or incorrect, because no one should do that in the first place. Whether or not I or him have actually recovered more than the other one is absolutely irrelevant, I am not even going to go there.

Telling me I have hurt someone: yes, telling me I am giving wrong information: yes, telling me my argument is bad: yes, telling me I am giving bad (requested) advice: yes, telling me what to do with my personal life: no, giving me unrequested diagnosis: no. Because it's nobody's buisness. When the answer is yes we can argue everything you want, when the answer is no there is no arguing and there is no discussion, you just don't do that at all and if this is too frustrating for someone they should keep it for their therapy sessions. This is not just me and it's not just here, it's a basic life skill. "Don't give unrequested advice about someone's personal life". It's all here in this sentence. If I don't want someone's advice on my personal life I don't see why I should still get it.

If you are cooking in your own house I don't break in to tell you the seasoning is bad and you should do it my way because I am a great cook, especially if the only one eating that food is you. Now what you are doing is discussing if whether or not I am a better cook than him or if whether or not his cooking advice is a good one. But I don't care, it's my food. It's going into my mouth, not anyone else's. But if someone thinks the food I put in my own mouth is bad they can tell it to their therapist or write it in their diary if they want to.

You’ve taken it way out of proportion buddy it’s peoples choice whether they want to take it on board or not and if you don’t agree with what I said that’s your opinion but I’m sure it will give someone a kickstart on their recovery, it’s not for you and that’s fine and if it’s hurt your feelings I apologise it wasn’t intentional, take some deep breaths that might help. Bye trith

 

[Trith]

You’ve taken it way out of proportion buddy it’s peoples choice whether they want to take it on board or not and if you don’t agree with what I said that’s your opinion but I’m sure it will give someone a kickstart on their recovery, it’s not for you and that’s fine and if it’s hurt your feelings I apologise it wasn’t intentional, take some deep breaths that might help. Bye trith

Well I come to this forum regularly these days and you were directing your comment at the few people who come regularly and you were telling them what to do. If you don't tell me what to do, if you don't diagnose me, if you don't make assumptions about me, and if you don't assume you know my personal stuff better than I do, then I have zero problem with it, 100% of the problem is solved. If you talk about your own experience, your own mistakes and how you solved them, or if you talk about your own theories and your own concepts, it's absolutely fine with me and it will probably help some people all the same.

 

[coolwhip27]

Well I come to this forum regularly these days and you were directing your comment at the few people who come regularly and you were telling them what to do. If you don't tell me what to do, if you don't diagnose me, if you don't make assumptions about me, and if you don't assume you know my personal stuff better than I do, then I have zero problem with it, 100% of the problem is solved. If you talk about your own experience, your own mistakes and how you solved them, or if you talk about your own theories and your own concepts, it's absolutely fine with me and it will probably help some people all the same.

Why does it even matter, why did you choose to become bothered by what someone’s post says? You’re obviously sensitive and don’t want to be criticized, so WHY? Maybe he’s right about you and you should try take his advice. Huh? Have you ever considered seeing someone else’s point for what it actually is? I encourage you to not come here pre-offended anymore. The saying is old, “Misery loves company” but it’s all too relevant now with the existence of the internet and the stupid triggered people in it.

 

[Trith]

Why does it even matter, why did you choose to become bothered by what someone’s post says? You’re obviously sensitive and don’t want to be criticized, so WHY? Maybe he’s right about you and you should try take his advice. Huh? Have you ever considered seeing someone else’s point for what it actually is? I encourage you to not come here pre-offended anymore. The saying is old, “Misery loves company” but it’s all too relevant now with the existence of the internet and the stupid triggered people in it.

Do you think I chose to become bothered? If this is something you can choose, then please choose to not be bothered by my comments and you won't have to reply to them. Show me how it's done.
Oh and by the way, have you considered that what I am saying could be true? I didn't know that this was an actual argument.

 

[coolwhip27]

Do you think I chose to become bothered? If this is something you can choose, then please choose to not be bothered by my comments and you won't have to reply to them. Show me how it's done.
Oh and by the way, have you considered that what I am saying could be true? I didn't know that this was an actual argument.

I’ll stop being bothered, right after you stop taking offense to every post mentioning the word recovery and advice. If it’s not directed at you then shut up

 

[Trith]

I’ll stop being bothered, right after you stop taking offense to every post mentioning the word recovery and advice. If it’s not directed at you then shut up

I don't mind that you are bothered. I am just asking you to apply your advice to yourself (edit: including the last one, but not only).

 

[coolwhip27]

I don't mind that you are bothered. I am just asking you to apply your advice to yourself (edit: including the last one, but not only).

My problem I had with you doesn’t equal the same problem you had. Your problem was a non-problem that you ended up MAKING a problem. You took up an issue with the OP who wasn’t even talking to anyone personally. I had a problem with your offendedness over nothing. It’s not the same thing, so get your head out of your ass

 

[Trith]

My problem I had with you doesn’t equal the same problem you had. Your problem was a non-problem that you ended up MAKING a problem. You took up an issue with the OP who wasn’t even talking to anyone personally. I had a problem with your offendedness over nothing. It’s not the same thing, so get your head out of your ass

?? The fact is he was talking to a group of people I was a part of: people who engage a lot on the forum.
But to the contrary, you are the one who jumped in and responded to me when I wasn't talking to you at all.

[...] If it’s not directed at you then shut up

Of course you don't think my problem is a problem because you can't see any problem in giving unrequested advice. I can see that, and that is the problem I was talking about in the first place. That's why we disagree. If we thought the same we wouldn't disagree.