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Chances are if you have this you’re suffering from your own mind distortion too. While this distortion is universal it’s still a question of one’s own consciousness. Some people say “accept”, they may have had an insight but once effort is taken to turn it into a method it’s a dead idea. Some say “find a new med or get a therapist because they are the ones that know better” And as that therapist holds your hand to the farthest they can go which may be necessary, you’ll see that ultimately you must carry yourself the rest of the way. So is it possible to grasp that at the beginning? That you have to be the one who “does it” for you in the end, because that’s a fact of it. Some people who are supposedly mentally healthier than us are killing other people, or living in illusions like believing they’re being guided by some outside force, or some god. There’s so many illusions and traps that mostly all of us go through. But if therapists admitted they’re just flawed people trying to do the best they can too then where would people go to? There is no real authority in any organization in the world. There’s no authority at all, you are both the curse and the key, and what you think of your brain is what your brain thinks because that’s what you are. You are your brain. I say that because I hope to help some people here who feel confused about themselves, people who get lost in thought about “who they are”, or that their own brain is against them etc. I know what it’s like to feel such heavy pressure over nothing but the fact of your own existence. It hurts to know beauty is all around you yet you still feel like shit. The solution is so simple, yet made up at the same time by yourself. When the only dictation of how good you feel is coming from you then you know you’re in the right place. That isn’t describing how you get there though. But when your experience of life is seemingly flowing without conflict, then you’re not dependent on anything. That’s when fear and misery has dissipated, and there’s no need to question any further then. Because once you understand the simple nature of your mind, that what it thinks about the problems it creates is how complicated it becomes then you’ve found your own heaven. There’s no need to go anywhere from there then, because nothing is complicated anymore.
 

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I've always been of the mind that words like these, or rather the message they convey, is the way towards not only recovery, but a knowledge of oneself beyond what was known even before this. Keep it up bro! Since the beginning, when I discovered this forum, and that I wasn't alone with these feelings, I wanted to find a "technique of meditation" that would be a panacea. I'm of the mind that if one were to "get their mind right", then that would by default include recovery from dissociation.

Disclaimer: Being an admin of a mental health forum I have the responsibility to say "check with your doctor getting on or off meds" and when someone has some shit, let's say trauma... "talk to a therapist".
 

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I've always been of the mind that words like these, or rather the message they convey, is the way towards not only recovery, but a knowledge of oneself beyond what was known even before this. Keep it up bro! Since the beginning, when I discovered this forum, and that I wasn't alone with these feelings, I wanted to find a "technique of meditation" that would be a panacea. I'm of the mind that if one were to "get their mind right", then that would by default include recovery from dissociation.

Disclaimer: Being an admin of a mental health forum I have the responsibility to say "check with your doctor getting on or off meds" and when someone has some shit, let's say trauma... "talk to a therapist".
I agree. It’s funny because what I’m trying to convey isnt really captured by any kind of intellectual acrobatics, so my linguistic effort doesn’t go far for others. It kinda can for me, because well, ultimately I am the only one who knows what I’m “trying” to get across. When it’s such a highly personal understanding that is, but then again if said right people may understand what I mean more. DP (or at least mine) is just being trapped in one’s own mind. When I’m living life completely there’s no center from where I’m coming from, it’s like perception becomes freed up instead of frozen and stuck, your experience is not dependent on memory anymore. But as I say that, I understand how vague that may sound
 

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this guy spits the truth homie
 

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I've always been of the mind that words like these, or rather the message they convey, is the way towards not only recovery, but a knowledge of oneself beyond what was known even before this. Keep it up bro! Since the beginning, when I discovered this forum, and that I wasn't alone with these feelings, I wanted to find a "technique of meditation" that would be a panacea. I'm of the mind that if one were to "get their mind right", then that would by default include recovery from dissociation.

Disclaimer: Being an admin of a mental health forum I have the responsibility to say "check with your doctor getting on or off meds" and when someone has some shit, let's say trauma... "talk to a therapist".
I agree with you and that's why I rarely use the word "dissociation." It's usually too general and loaded a term for my purposes.

Everyone should have an understanding that medicine, talk therapy, and meditation can only go so far. Meditation will be the cure for a small percentage of sufferers and the remainder will require some additional method or no method at all. Sometimes the situation resolves itself without any effort. Sometimes people are getting their depersonalization from migraines, epilepsy, or tumors. Sometimes people want or need to be dissociated from their environment. The brain is a product of genes interacting with environment. The fastest way to illicit change is to change environment, but brains have an ability to perseverate on their traumas and anxieties even in new circumstances, as we see in many animals. Coolwhip appears to have alluded to this. Environments can also be amazingly resistant to change, like trying to spark change in today's society or trying fertilize a desert.
 

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You're right: you ARE your brain.

Today, I felt so numb and foggy and didn't feel like doing anything. I got up and cleaned house, shopped and so on...
I didn't even pay attention to it.
Would be nice to have some emotions though like I once did.

Just live life...
All one can do. Hopefully it goes away eventually, but who knows?

And I have had tinnitus lately...
Double for me...
I didn't have it until the derealization and depersonalization came on.
 
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