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After i did pot about three months ago I have experienced a "mental fog". I feel slow, stupid, forgetfull, tired feeling. I do not feel myself at all.

I am not sure that I have dp/dr, but I just have this feeling of being spacy, and it bothers the hell out of me. I had really bad anxiety during my high, and it continued long after, I have been taking zoloft and it seems to help a little with the anxiety. I dont think that I have too many dp/dr instances at all. It is just this spacy feeling and mental fog I have.

Or maybe this is really what dp/dr is im not really sure. But if it isnt dp/dr, what could this be to? Do people get like marijuana hang overs that last for months? I read that there are people who feel out of it but over the course of a year or so they return to normal, a few of which went on some ssri's. I am just really worried that this will never dissipate, which creates anxiety. I dont know if it is negative thinking or anxiety that could cause this on my part, or marijuana had some kind of chemical imbalance.
 

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It could be any number of things, I suppose.

It could be chemically-based, the weed somehow altering the balance of things in your brain - but for that you'd really need to have smoked quite a lot, pretty regularly, in my view.

It could also be an anxiety-based symptom, that's very much a possibility.

On the other hand, you might be experiencing DP/DR as a reaction to the experience on pot. Honestly, your post doesn't sound all that DP to me; you just sound kinda spacey, not as if you feel in the twlighlight zone or freaked out at being in your own body.

Ultimately, you can't know what's wrong exactly. And the approach to recovery will generally be the same, in any case. It's pretty hard, but I'd try not to spend too long "working out" what's wrong. Doing so tends to avoid the real issue. I know, I tried myself for ages and got nowhere.
 

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I constantly worry all day, it gets pretty bad at some points, but when my anxiety isnt present I seem to feel much better, still woozy kinda. I just constantly worry, I have had problems before with anxiety but I have never had such a physical effect on my body.

It just seems like getting through each day is such a struggle, like I cant wait till night time usally I feel better at night. I am always stressed out it seems. I am just so concerned because anxiety has never left me feeling like this.
 

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Watch out, you could be just on the edge of it. Don't smoke any more weed, ever again, it could push you over the edge and you'll feel a lot worse.

Before I got DR in such an obvious way, I did have one evening where I did 2 hash cakes (they had quite a lot of stuff in them), and smoked more than normal. The results were, spending the night on my mates bathroom floor, and feeling a slight slowing down of my mental ability from that point on. Also, after that it only took a couple of tokes to get me really stoned again.

I think I might have got full on DR in 2 stages. The first stage I just told you about, and the next stage where I didn't smoke for a while, then got stoned at a party and started to feel very anxious whilst I was stoned. It was after that party, that I woke up with high anxiety and I lost the bond with reality over the coarse of that day.
 

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You know, it's interesting...everyone talks about how pot is completely harmless, and there aren't all that many side effects, and for a lot of people that is true. However, i hate that so many people are risking this horrible beast everytime they do it...I have tried to explain this to people I know who smoke pot, but they don't seem to care...they just kind of shrug and say "whatever" or even "that doesn't sound so bad" or what have you. I wish they would bring THIS beast up in the just say no campaigns!
 

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the problem is that they do not teach this shit at school, or anywhere else for that matter. Instead of having commercials and books and teachers say dont do pot because it is bad!!!!!!!, they should say dont do pot because of side effects like HPPD, DP/DR, some scary shit and scare the kids out of it.

I mean I only did pot because I did not know of side effects like this, I just did pot because it seemed like the normal thing that kids do. I am a normal kid at a normal highschool, and I know that almost all of my friends have atleast tried pot, with the exception of a few so a 10:1 ratio of kids who have tried it. I dont have really drug addict friends, I'm pretty sure this is a rather normal statistic. So many people have atleast tried pot.
 

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Orange,

I was just thinking yesterday that I should write a book with case studies in it to warn young people about the dangers.

Would any of you be willing to tell your story (anonymously, of course, but the publisher will want to check that what I have written is not fiction)?

I haven't had a best-seller in a while, :roll: , so I'm about due for one.
 

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peaceboy23 said:
You know, it's interesting...everyone talks about how pot is completely harmless, and there aren't all that many side effects, and for a lot of people that is true. However, i hate that so many people are risking this horrible beast everytime they do it...I have tried to explain this to people I know who smoke pot, but they don't seem to care...they just kind of shrug and say "whatever" or even "that doesn't sound so bad" or what have you. I wish they would bring THIS beast up in the just say no campaigns!
i so agree with you, peaceboy. After all, about 40% of the population has or will have some kind of mental disorder. And usually pot will trigger and make any kind of mental problem worse. People who don't yet have a mental illness cannot predict if they will ever have one or not, but smoking pot can set it off and make it worse. So technically, there is about a 40% for every person that they will have a negative reaction to weed. That's a pretty big risk to take.
And dp/dr might not sound that bad. Having a dp/dr experience for a short time might actually be interesting and fun for some people. But when you start to have it constantly or all the time, it completly sucks!

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Orange,

I was just thinking yesterday that I should write a book with case studies in it to warn young people about the dangers.

Would any of you be willing to tell your story (anonymously, of course, but the publisher will want to check that what I have written is not fiction)?

I haven't had a best-seller in a while, :roll: , so I'm about due for one.
you've written best selling books? wow! i would like to read your books. What are they called?

I wish i could contribute, but since pot didn't cause my dp/dr, i don't think i really could. However, when i tried pot, it did make it worse for the next week or so.

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OH man! Last night I smoked some pot and it was a bad idea! I knew I shouldn't but at the time I was feeling in control with myself. As soon as I smoked it I didn't feel bad...

But then about 10 minutes into it I started to panic!!! I'm barley recovering from it right now. Never again!

I thought I was feeling better and this was a step back for me. Live and learn...Dont smoke POT!!!
 

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the problem is that they do not teach this sh*t at school, or anywhere else for that matter. Instead of having commercials and books and teachers say dont do pot because it is bad!!!!!!!, they should say dont do pot because of side effects like HPPD, DP/DR, some scary sh*t and scare the kids out of it.
i was a drug and alcohol prevention teacher last year and i talked about hppd and dp/dr. i never would have said..."don't do pot because it's bad". i think (hopefully) it's different now-a-days...as opposed to when we went to school.
 

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orangeaid. I too had this sequence happen that led to this mental fog. I was always anxious before weed use (and other drugs) and also was a worrier. Drugs heightened these problems to the point where i would worry alot while stoned and eventually got paranoid when stoned. It was at this time that my stuff went to this new level of the mental fog, the physical fatigue, the advance excessive worry (hypervigalence) and what I generally call derealization with a dose of depersonalization when other symptoms are bad. I feel there was a direct correlation between my predispostion and the weed. I always used to say that I jsut feel stoned when describing it to doctors. I do not think I would have arrived here without the weed and other drugs, maybe the weed alone. I too every chance I get try to confront those that laugh pot off as harmless.
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orangeaid. I too had this sequence happen that led to this mental fog. I was always anxious before weed use (and other drugs) and also was a worrier. Drugs heightened these problems to the point where i would worry alot while stoned and eventually got paranoid when stoned. It was at this time that my stuff went to this new level of the mental fog, the physical fatigue, the advance excessive worry (hypervigalence) and what I generally call derealization with a dose of depersonalization when other symptoms are bad. I feel there was a direct correlation between my predispostion and the weed. I always used to say that I jsut feel stoned when describing it to doctors. I do not think I would have arrived here without the weed and other drugs, maybe the weed alone. I too every chance I get try to confront those that laugh pot off as harmless.
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Right on! I agree with you. Right on about not arriving here if you didn't do drugs!

I agree with that totally. If I would of never smoked weed I would not be here.

I used to smoke so much weed and never have a bad experience on it. I was the king of weed...seriously. Now I'm a nervous wreak when I'm around it. Bad stuff!
 
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I suppose there?s not much difference. somebody smokes gazilillions tons of weed and gets DP, I smoked one fuckin? joint and got DP too.

The "mental fog" is very exact term, it fits to my condition - the "mental" stuff is in my head and indeed, it even works on some basis, but on the other hand, it is in the "fog", not truly connected to me.

Not yet, at least. Not yet.
 

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My experience with weed has always been that I have a mental fog for a bout a month to maybe a month and a half prior to smoking it. I never had a large section of time in which I smoked weed, only on occasions (usually once every 4 months). I never had any DP or anything from it, it was just a little hard to concentrate and work through problems. The great thing was that it always cleared up.

Currently I'm recovering from too much nutmeg I had in a pie. Never saw that one coming. I have reached the post-weed stage where I can't cencentrate well. The fact that every day it gets better keeps me going, I should be back to normal in about a month I figure. I believe with exercise all imbalances in brain chemistry can be resolved (in me at least).
 
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