Yeah, I'm going to step in here to back up SC. What you said about this stuff makes perfect sense to me, as well as ringing true through experience. My parents gave me quite a Puritan upbringing, eventhough I was Catholic, so while I dont believe that masturbation is necessarily wrong, like Freud said, I think it leads to neurosis. It take something which is supposed to unite, and it makes it solitary and boring. I'm seconding SC on that. Sc is also correct in that society paints men as pigs who dont want anything but to think of breasts and watch television. I would be a rich man if I had a dollar for every college girl that said "Men only care about one thing" to me. With an attitude like that, its no wonder they never catch on to the shy romantic men that they profess to be looking for. Because, really, in my experience, they dont like the deep types, the nerds with hearts, they want the jerks who use them, and who lack emotion. Honestly, I think women find them exciting. Men are much, much more versatile, strong, and vulnerable, than women give them credit for. I also think that the difference between sex and making love is huge, and this is why I'm saving sex until I'm married (or at least trying to). Its a big world out there - dont pigeonhole people, and dont keep your sexuality to yourself. Its part of a much bigger and better part of you, that you'll hopefully share with somebody you care about. I've had quite a few relationships, and they do wonders for your worldview. You feel more complete, you learn something, and the box you live in expands a little more. Women are awesome!