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Does anyone else feel like this?

Think about this. I've tried looking back to think how I was feeling when I did'nt have a problem with depersonalization. Question how you feel now, to how you felt back then. Did you have the same things on your mind now as you did then. Worries, obsessive thoughts, problems. Someone pointed this out to me, and looking back, when my life was all rosy, I never had this problem. Makes you think!
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Even though you say you don't believe in God per say, you still spent an hour reading about him. This tells me a lot of good things about you.
The religious just can't help themselves, can they. Sigh. :roll: If only us poor deluded atheists had such stunning insight. Still, best be a cynic like me. When I smell flowers I look around for the funeral.

Creationism is the most pathetic attempt to merge the obvious inevitability of evolution, geology, physics, in fact almost the entire realm of science with the number one book of the ages, written by committee - the bible. If it didn't cloud the judgement of millions of children all over the world, it would be funny. It's something comparable to childhood neurosis. Still, it's excellent stuff for keeping the ignorant quiet.

What does make me laugh, however, is the total reliance of the religous on scripture. Those most holy of texts that distinguish the 'saved' from the profane writings on which all other faiths are based. :lol:
The religious just can't help themselves, can they. Sigh.
Yes it is hard to contain myself sometimes.

Imagin believing you had knowledge that could save peoples lives.
And not just this life but an everlasting life on paradise earth.
You probably wouldent be able to contain yourself either.
Actually I find atheist not being able to contain themselfs all the time.
What do atheist offer? What is there purpose for speaking? I am just wondering. Are atheist so happy to have found death that they want to spread it to the world. If I was an atheist I would keep my comments to myself. Remember most religious people believe their knowledge will save others. If my truth was death than I would kill myself.
What does make me laugh, however, is the total reliance of the religous on scripture.
As a matter of fact, your above statement is false. The Catholic Church relies on Scripture and Tradition. It also doesn't presume to know HOW God created what He created.
Yes it is hard to contain myself sometimes.
I don't doubt it.

Imagin believing you had knowledge that could save peoples lives.
You have this knowledge? What extraordinary news. Care to share? I believe there are several million in Niger and The Sudan who are in need of your knowledge. I look forward to seeing the results on CNN.

And not just this life but an everlasting life on paradise earth.
Paradise earth ? What? And who's paradise? Yours? I need clarification as there are so many contradictory faiths I can never be sure which one people are talking about.

You probably wouldent be able to contain yourself either.
If I had you incredible powers, then yes, I wouldn't be able to contain myself either. But unfortunately I'd expect I'd waste a little of my powers in a Bruce-Almighty manner. I've always wanted to be invisible. Can you do that?

Actually I find atheist not being able to contain themselfs all the time.
Examples please. And since you are all knowing and all powerful, I assume you're not going to say that all atheists cannot contain their urges to kill, maim, and fiddle with children. That's just ignorant misconception, isn't it.

What do atheist offer?
An atheist is someone who lacks belief in various imaginary friends, that's all. I would have thought you knew that, Superman. They have as much and as little to offer the world as everyone else. They are human beings who cherish 'this life', and their unbelief itself gives purpose to their and other peoples lives.

What is there purpose for speaking?
:lol: :lol: :lol: Well, I've no idea. Perhaps we should just sit in corner and quietly rot away.

Are atheist so happy to have found death that they want to spread it to the world
Oh dear. You're not superman after all. You've betrayed the usual stunning ignorance of the religious. It doesn't even dignify a response. 'Found Death'. Dear lord, when will this stupidity end?

If I was an atheist I would keep my comments to myself
Yes, I bet you'd love that. Nobody to criticise your beliefs. Nobody to point out the terrible hypocrisy, bigotry, discrimination, and church sponsored poverty that has been going on for thousands of years, and continues to do so. So tough titty's mate. Religion is a dying superstition, accept it, and maybe you'll find that a life without 'faith' (whichever one you are brainwashed into believing in) is a life with purpose, a life where we treat everyone as equals, and do not discriminate beyond our own unfortunate human prejudices.....

Sojourner,

The Catholic Church relies on Scripture and Tradition. It also doesn't presume to know HOW God created what He created.
Well, that's a bit crap isn't it. It's like reading a manual on how to fix a car and then trying to build a helicopter. No wonder you're all so confused. And I wouldn't be so quick to promote Catholic tradition...dear lord no. Catholic tradition has a worse record than the holocaust, as horrific as that was. And I don't remember the nazi's molesting children either or promoting overpopulation and poverty of the world through threat of eternal damnation. If I were catholic I'd be too ashamed to show my face in public.

I'm probably going to be slammed for comparing Catholic tradition with the Nazi's, but I don't care. They are both evil festering sores on the face of humanity and people should realise this, that the trade-off for a little personal comfort and a nice place to go on a Sunday, MILLIONS are dying because of it's insane doctrine.

The day people have the courage to shed their comfort blankets, taking responsibility for their actions and embracing life for what it is, will be a great day for humanity. I'll wager that you'd be surprised that a world without religion wouldn't descend into immoral carnage - rather people would find purpose in their lives for life itself, and treat everyone in the same manner, without having to resort to the ridiculous and frankly obscene 'teachings' of dead and dying religions. Without wanting (without desperatly wanting) to sound like a prophet myself, that day is coming, and I for one can't wait. I doubt that it'll happen in my lifetime, but the slowly creeping realisation of the absurdity of religion and the harm that it causes, which greatly outweighs any benefit, has already started. Ignorance is no longer a defence. Face facts. Live life.
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Martinelv your funny :lol: .
You are also very good at arguing a point. Seriously I like your talents.

Yes, I bet you'd love that. Nobody to criticise your beliefs. Nobody to point out the terrible hypocrisy, bigotry, discrimination, and church sponsored poverty that has been going on for thousands of years, and continues to do so. So tough titty's mate. Religion is a dying superstition, accept it, and maybe you'll find that a life without 'faith' (whichever one you are brainwashed into believing in) is a life with purpose, a life where we treat everyone as equals, and do not discriminate beyond our own unfortunate human prejudices.....
Actually I don't mind when people criticise my beliefs because I always look into things and criticise my own beliefs anyway. What I don't understand is why you would want to crush a good thought.

[/quote] Well, I've no idea. Perhaps we should just sit in corner and quietly rot away.[/quote]

That is what most people are doing. Most people think way to much of themselfs.

Paradise earth ? What? And who's paradise? Yours? I need clarification as there are so many contradictory faiths I can never be sure which one people are talking about.
If you are going to ask questions like this I am going to have to answer.
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/200 ... cle_01.htm
That paradise.

Examples please. And since you are all knowing and all powerful, I assume you're not going to say that all atheists cannot contain their urges to kill, maim, and fiddle with children. That's just ignorant misconception, isn't it.
You are the example yourself. You are haveing just as many problems containing yourself as I am. It is only our viewpoint that is diffrent.
And just for further refrence, my religion does not believe in fighting in wars.

I am not all knowing or all powerful, I try to be humble, passive and meek.
Jehovah God is whom I declare to be all knowing and all powerful.
But even Gods powers are limited to the relms of reality.

Martinelv thank you for pointing out that I am not superman I have been wondering why I am unable to fly.
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The day people have the courage to shed their comfort blankets, taking responsibility for their actions and embracing life for what it is, will be a great day for humanity. I'll wager that you'd be surprised that a world without religion wouldn't descend into immoral carnage - rather people would find purpose in their lives for life itself, and treat everyone in the same manner, without having to resort to the ridiculous and frankly obscene 'teachings' of dead and dying religions. Without wanting (without desperatly wanting) to sound like a prophet myself, that day is coming, and I for one can't wait. I doubt that it'll happen in my lifetime, but the slowly creeping realisation of the absurdity of religion and the harm that it causes, which greatly outweighs any benefit, has already started. Ignorance is no longer a defence. Face facts. Live life.
You seem to be hopeing for an end to religion.
You will be happy to know that the bible predicts this day will come.
God will actually be the one to put it into the hearts of men to do away with religions.
This is one of the signs for the end of this system of things.

I will send you a PM to explain.

I am waiting for this day myself because then I will be sure the end is at hand.

I'm not containing myself very good am I?
I think I will just stop reading this thread completly.
Goodby. :)
Well, that's a bit crap isn't it. It's like reading a manual on how to fix a car and then trying to build a helicopter. No wonder you're all so confused. And I wouldn't be so quick to promote Catholic tradition...dear lord no. Catholic tradition has a worse record than the holocaust, as horrific as that was. And I don't remember the nazi's molesting children either or promoting overpopulation and poverty of the world through threat of eternal damnation. If I were catholic I'd be too ashamed to show my face in public.

I'm probably going to be slammed for comparing Catholic tradition with the Nazi's, but I don't care. They are both evil festering sores on the face of humanity and people should realise this, that the trade-off for a little personal comfort and a nice place to go on a Sunday, MILLIONS are dying because of it's insane doctrine.

The day people have the courage to shed their comfort blankets, taking responsibility for their actions and embracing life for what it is, will be a great day for humanity. I'll wager that you'd be surprised that a world without religion wouldn't descend into immoral carnage - rather people would find purpose in their lives for life itself, and treat everyone in the same manner, without having to resort to the ridiculous and frankly obscene 'teachings' of dead and dying religions. Without wanting (without desperatly wanting) to sound like a prophet myself, that day is coming, and I for one can't wait. I doubt that it'll happen in my lifetime, but the slowly creeping realisation of the absurdity of religion and the harm that it causes, which greatly outweighs any benefit, has already started. Ignorance is no longer a defence. Face facts. Live life.
Have you ever listened to yourself?

Your attempts to ridicule hurt only your own soul. Most people, even if they are not religious themselves, recognize the vileness you spew as evil. You demonstrate the existence of sin in the world by your loving embrace of sin's methods -- dishonesty and hatred. You lie about Christianity continually, you have no regard for the dignity of other human beings, and you are a frightened little boy flailing at those who believe in the goodness of creation, a Creator who loves everyone, and the desire of all humanity to rise above the evil that we all do.

And yes, God loves you, and so do I.

I wish you the peace that passes all understanding -- the peace that comes only from God. That peace is the only peace that can heal our suffering.

And He may touch you yet before He's done with you. It has happened before, so if I were you, I would watch out.

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Oh, and should anyone ask whether the above is a "threat" -- the answer is yes, by all means. Or perhaps it is a prediction. Christ is known for dogging the steps of and forcing a personal encounter with human beings just like Martin--and not just those whose experiences are recorded in Scripture.

Yes, indeed, God may well meet our friend Martin one day where he least expects it.
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Have you ever listened to yourself?
Yes. Like yourself, I just love the sound of my own voice.

Your attempts to ridicule hurt only your own soul
It's not an attempt to ridicule, I am ridiculing. And what's this 'soul' you are talking about? I hear a lot of bluff and waffle, but nobody has really explained what they are talking about.

Most people, even if they are not religious themselves, recognize the vileness you spew as evil
Do they? I welcome all comments on the vileness of my criticism of religion. One man's evil is another man's truth.

You lie about Christianity continually
Give me an example. Just one.

you have no regard for the dignity of other human beings,
Really? How can you presume to know that ? A nasty little trick, Sojourner, but I'm used to it. Humanists have more dignity in their little finger than the religious.

and you are a frightened little boy flailing at those who believe in the goodness of creation
I'm frighted for a variety of different reasons. Leaukemia, for one, the love and safety of my family and friends for another, financial security, the sanity of some of the poor souls on this board, but certainly not your imaginary friend. :roll: Why should I be afraid of something / someone / it / them that don't exist?

Why do you keep barking on about god/s on this forum anyway? This is a forum for people with DP. Why don't you shuffle over to the Spirituality Forum to empart your wisdom to people who want to hear about it and we can argue until the cows come home. I for one and sick and tired of hearing your uninformed ravings about how your imaginary friend and DP and depression is somehow tangled together in a great big confusing mush.

I'm not denying that your intentions are good, and some of the advice you give regarding DP very well informed and helpfull, but give the religious crap a break, please? If you do, I will too. And no doubt that will be a tremendous relief to everyone.
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Personally I would be relieved to stop reading threads that start about one thing and end up about God or no God. Start a new thread would be my suggestion--there HAS to be enough coming out of all this talk to create a new thread which won't lead unsuspecting readers down a long ass path of this stuff please!!
--jake
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Jake you read my mind friend. If they can seperate church and state don't you think we can seperate church and DP. You could argue your religious beliefs or lack there of forever and do nothing more than piss people off. We are here to support each through this not convert one another to their own personal beliefs.
Kate
I think maybe I am the one responsible for that happening on this thread. I forgot about the strict separation and asked Lostone a question...

Anyway, sorry about that. Won't happen again.
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Don't apologize for being who you are or believing so strongly. I was just trying to be funny. It seems like there are many subjects that are better left alone on this board.
Kate
Don't apologize.

Everyone needs to stop though. You're all annoying me with this thread. Believe what you want, I don't care. But do you really think this argument is going anywhere? There is no resolution.
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