Look back to the past..

5290 Views 53 Replies 9 Participants Last post by Da'Burgh, Aug 13, 2005

anti-anti depressants

Discussion Starter · Aug 4, 2005

Does anyone else feel like this?

Think about this. I've tried looking back to think how I was feeling when I did'nt have a problem with depersonalization. Question how you feel now, to how you felt back then. Did you have the same things on your mind now as you did then. Worries, obsessive thoughts, problems. Someone pointed this out to me, and looking back, when my life was all rosy, I never had this problem. Makes you think!

21 - 40 of 54 Posts

Sojourner

· #21 · Aug 5, 2005

rula said:
I don't think the generalization was about life so much. *I think*, maybe, (hehe) that Sajourner was making a generalization about people with DP, based on the popular 'dp is a defense mechanism' theory. so if one has DP, it's not possible that their life could've been all rosy before??

Yes.

rula said:
I'm rather mystified myself as how you could so confidently say "i know and you KNOW" life wasn't so great...unless I'm missing some really long post from anti-ad's with lots of details, in that case i'll go feel stupid now. :lol:

It was a generalization based on the idea that life itself cannot be rosy. Life always has ups and downs and people have highs and lows. For someone to say that she or he never ever felt low in the past just seems to be inaccurate. Perhaps if things are "normal," we forget the sad things and when we look back, it all seems rosy, but in fact, it is not.

However, if the anti_anti was comparing today with a time in which he or she was truly innocent of the pain of others in the world and didn't happen to experience anything but love and joy and camaraderie and roses, then perhaps my generalization doesn't fit her or his actual life.

I just have trouble believing that anyone could recall the past as being perfect. But perhaps it was *I* who read too much into that statement and the poster was just talking in general. Maybe this is a "mountain/molehill" moment, after all?

Sojourner

· #22 · Aug 5, 2005

Hey, LostOne, you need to change your name, because it is nothing like the YOU I see!!

Mipmunk

· #23 · Aug 5, 2005

when I don't have DP, my life is very rosy, I feel fabulous, I know that February, March and April this year, life was great/rosy. Then my cat got ill, went missing and died, "CLICK" then went the trigger into DP. And 3 months later the DP hasn't gone yet.... I don't know why it is still hanging around, it doesn't seem to want to go this time..........

Mipmunk
x

LOSTONE

· #24 · Aug 5, 2005

Hey, LostOne, you need to change your name, because it is nothing like the YOU I see!!

You blew my cover :shock: !

Thanks anyway

.
I think I will keep the name. I am lost in this world, I'm not sure if it's my fault or the worlds fault, but I am surely LOST :? :shock:

!

The funny thing is that the only things I don't feel lost about,
everyone else does feel lost about :? .

Sojourner

· #25 · Aug 6, 2005

The funny thing is that the only things I don't feel lost about,
everyone else does feel lost about .

Ya' wanna run that by me one more time?

LOSTONE

· #26 · Aug 6, 2005

Hows this.

The funny thing is that what everyone else feels lost about,
I don't feel lost about at all.

Example, God, meaning of Life, whatever people consider to be difficult subjects, ya know.

Just pick up on the vibes Sojourner. I will send the meaning of this rant vie ESP.

LOSTONE

· #27 · Aug 6, 2005

it is nothing like the YOU I see!!

I am wondering, just how is it YOU see ME Sojourner :shock: .

Sojourner

· #28 · Aug 6, 2005

I see you differently than you describe yourself. I see you as a sensitive person with a good head on his shoulders. You're a guy, right? I've been wondering about your religious belief, principally because of your tagline. And now the comment you just made has me wondering, too.

Ah, just saw your profile -- into physics, are we? :lol:

LOSTONE

· #29 · Aug 6, 2005

I think I made a mistake, and brought up my religion before in the spirituality section. I don't post there anymore.

I am not baptized yet but I have been studying with Jehovah's Witnesses for 8 yrs. My studys havent been consistent, but I don't doubt the truth behind what the Witnesses say. I want to get baptized as fast as possible but I can bearly take care of myself at the moment. I kind of feel like a burden to the religion because of my illness.

Yes I am a guy

.
My real name is Steve.

Physics is just interesting to me, I am not a professor.
Physics just seems to fit in with dp/dr perfictly.
I realy think that if everyone would look deep into physics they would understand a little more about just why this universe NEEDS A CREATOR TO EXIST.

STATEMENT:
I will not argue the point about this universe needing a creator.

If anyone wants to know what the Witnesses believe goto there website.
Don't listen to gossip people. http://watchtower.org/

Sojourner thank you for your comment.
When I picked the name Lost one I was thinking about daily activitys or conversation. When I am doing daily activitys I often feel very lost but when I stop and think about things I feel as if I am the only one that truely understands what is going on.
I don't know if this makes sense to you but this is how I Feel.

See less See more

LOSTONE

· #30 · Aug 6, 2005

I see you as a sensitive person with a good head on his shoulders.

This I got simply from studying the bible. I thank Jehovah for any sensitivity or any wisdom I might have.

Sojourner

· #31 · Aug 6, 2005

OK -- thanks.

[rula]

· #32 · Aug 6, 2005

LOSTONE said:
I realy think that if everyone would look deep into physics they would understand a little more about just why this universe NEEDS A CREATOR TO EXIST.

STATEMENT:
I will not argue the point about this universe needing a creator.

I can't help it...I'm not going to argue religion either. but, food for thought Lostone, I'm sure you're familiar with Einstein's work. I think he knew a thing or two about physics, and he was an atheist. Whatever conclusive evidence you think you have, it apparently wasn't good enough for Einstein. There's no such thing as scientific proof of the existence of a creator.

-rula

LOSTONE

· #33 · Aug 6, 2005

rula all I can say is that Einstein is old news. You might as well just bring up Issac newton also, his news is even older.

I realy think that if everyone would look deep into physics they would understand a little more about just why this universe NEEDS A CREATOR TO EXIST.

STATEMENT:
I will not argue the point about this universe needing a creator.

This is my opinion. If Einstein never prayed to God that is his problem not mine.

There have been studies done on the beliefs of scientest. I think you would find the results to these studies very interesting.
I would do the resurch for you but I get the feeling that you just want to argue a point, I don't feel as if you realy want to learn anything.
If you were my official bible study I would spend hours doing resurch and getting the facts for you, but untill you show that you are meek I am not wasting time on you. Like I said on another board, if anyone wants to talk religion just send me a PM. If you are eager to learn, I will try to teach. If you are a Witness and you have advice, than I am all full of meekness.

I don't want to continue conversations about religion that can not and will not ever end. Like I said, I will teach or learn religion vie PM only.

See less See more

LOSTONE

· #34 · Aug 6, 2005

ROMANS 1:20

For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable.

Now this is Gods opinion not mine. Note the word (inexcusable).

LOSTONE

· #35 · Aug 6, 2005

PS. Rula, makeing the statement that Einstein was an atheist was a little much don't you think? Einstein never made that simple of a statement.

He did say this about God however.

Einstein once responded, "I
believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony in
what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions
of human beings."

He wrote an article for the _New York Times_
expounding his religious beliefs (reprinted in _Ideas and Opinions_).
He spoke of himself as having a "cosmic religious sense," which knows
"no dogmas and no God made in man's image," which he said was shared
with the great mystics; he compared himself with the likes of
Democritus, St. Francis, and Spinoza. He also commented that one must
have a poor moral sense if the only way one could act virtuously is if
one expect rewards and punishments after death.

His religious views were much more complicated that simply stateing he was an atheist.

Spinoza was a Dutch Pilosopher, if your wondering.

G

· #36 · Aug 6, 2005

anti-anti, i know exactly what you mean. the things that go through are head are completely different than when [or if] we were once happy.

[rula]

· #37 · Aug 6, 2005

LOSTONE said:
PS. Rula, makeing the statement that Einstein was an atheist was a little much don't you think? Einstein never made that simple of a statement.

Lostone, I didn't respond earlier because apparently you saw my challenging your logic as starting an argument. Rest assured that I neither want to teach you nor learn from you when it comes to religion. This is a DP/DR board, I come here to read about only that. You say you want to keep religious stuff over PM's, but then you go on quoting your God, and still continue the argument. fine

You discredited Einstein earlier on account of him being "old news", which I found to be a brilliant argument cuz now I can simply discredit Jesus for being "really really old news." Why go back and research Einstein's religious believes? guess you knew you couldn't discredit him that easy.

Yes making the statement that he was an atheist was an over simplification, he was closer to an agnostic. but it's quite irrelevant, cuz either way his knowledge in physics (which far surpasses yours and mine despite it being, according to you, incredibly old and obsolete) never lead him to think creationism was a necessary conclusion. that's not to say that it's not a possibility, just not a conclusion.

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism.

-E

-rula

See less See more

LOSTONE

· #38 · Aug 7, 2005

You say you want to keep religious stuff over PM's, but then you go on quoting your God, and still continue the argument. fine

Good point rula, I admit that I did continue the argument after I said I did not want to discuss it futher.

You discredited Einstein earlier on account of him being "old news", which I found to be a brilliant argument cuz now I can simply discredit Jesus for being "really really old news." Why go back and research Einstein's religious believes? guess you knew you couldn't discredit him that easy.

LOL This makes me laugh. My comment that Einstein was old news was pretty poor I guess. I would explane why I said that but I don't think there is any need. I admit it was a bad statement.

Yes making the statement that he was an atheist was an over simplification,

Thanks for admitting this rula.

he was closer to an agnostic.

I am still confused :? .

Well I think your right rula this is not the right place to talk religion.
And I promise I will not do it anymore.

I didn't respond earlier because apparently you saw my challenging your logic as starting an argument.

I didn't really think of it as an argument, just a pointless dialogue.

Oh and rula I LOVE you also. Just in case you felt left out

.
I hope we can be friends

.

See less See more

[rula]

· #39 · Aug 7, 2005

LOSTONE said:
Oh and rula I LOVE you also. Just in case you felt left out .
I hope we can be friends .

now i'm confused. am i missing a looove thread somewhere? :wink:
yea, i love you too steve, you just made me spend an hour reading about Jehova's Witnesses. learned something new 8)

LOSTONE

· #40 · Aug 7, 2005

am i missing a looove thread somewhere?

No, not a love thread, it was xepers book of hate. I don't know if you read it?

I was thinking of posting a book of love, but then I realized that most people are more interested in proclaiming there hates rather than there loves. I figured that my book of love would get no replys, so I never posted it. I personaly hate many things, but I feel it more therapeutic to find the things that can be loved than to dwell on the many things I hate.

you just made me spend an hour reading about Jehova's Witnesses.

You made my day rula. Most people woulden't wast there time bothering with an open minded view of the world. Even though you say you don't believe in God per say, you still spent an hour reading about him. This tells me a lot of good things about you.

I was starting to think that I had failed God once again

.
Knowing that I got you to goto the Witnesses web page has made me very happy indeed

.

Thanks rula!

21 - 40 of 54 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.