I only have black and gray to weave with. Sojurner can you lend me one of your beautiful hues? I seemed to have lost mine.
All I remember Sojourner saying was that life was not all that rosy before dp/dr. And I don't believe that life is completely rosy for anyone.Yes that's true, but just because life isn't an endless stream of bliss doesn't mean that we are doomed to an eternity of misery. I just get the impression that you think happyness is a wafer thin veil covering the bottomless gulf of misery beneath. I don't agree with that
You blew my cover :shock: !Hey, LostOne, you need to change your name, because it is nothing like the YOU I see!!
I am wondering, just how is it YOU see ME Sojourner :shock: .it is nothing like the YOU I see!!
This I got simply from studying the bible. I thank Jehovah for any sensitivity or any wisdom I might have.I see you as a sensitive person with a good head on his shoulders.
This is my opinion. If Einstein never prayed to God that is his problem not mine.I realy think that if everyone would look deep into physics they would understand a little more about just why this universe NEEDS A CREATOR TO EXIST.
I will not argue the point about this universe needing a creator.
Einstein once responded, "I
believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony in
what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions
of human beings."
His religious views were much more complicated that simply stateing he was an atheist.He wrote an article for the _New York Times_
expounding his religious beliefs (reprinted in _Ideas and Opinions_).
He spoke of himself as having a "cosmic religious sense," which knows
"no dogmas and no God made in man's image," which he said was shared
with the great mystics; he compared himself with the likes of
Democritus, St. Francis, and Spinoza. He also commented that one must
have a poor moral sense if the only way one could act virtuously is if
one expect rewards and punishments after death.
Good point rula, I admit that I did continue the argument after I said I did not want to discuss it futher.You say you want to keep religious stuff over PM's, but then you go on quoting your God, and still continue the argument. fine
LOL This makes me laugh. My comment that Einstein was old news was pretty poor I guess. I would explane why I said that but I don't think there is any need. I admit it was a bad statement.You discredited Einstein earlier on account of him being "old news", which I found to be a brilliant argument cuz now I can simply discredit Jesus for being "really really old news." Why go back and research Einstein's religious believes? guess you knew you couldn't discredit him that easy.
Thanks for admitting this rula.Yes making the statement that he was an atheist was an over simplification,
I am still confused :? .he was closer to an agnostic.
I didn't really think of it as an argument, just a pointless dialogue.I didn't respond earlier because apparently you saw my challenging your logic as starting an argument.
No, not a love thread, it was xepers book of hate. I don't know if you read it?am i missing a looove thread somewhere?
You made my day rula. Most people woulden't wast there time bothering with an open minded view of the world. Even though you say you don't believe in God per say, you still spent an hour reading about him. This tells me a lot of good things about you.you just made me spend an hour reading about Jehova's Witnesses.
Yes it is hard to contain myself sometimes.The religious just can't help themselves, can they. Sigh.
Actually I don't mind when people criticise my beliefs because I always look into things and criticise my own beliefs anyway. What I don't understand is why you would want to crush a good thought.Yes, I bet you'd love that. Nobody to criticise your beliefs. Nobody to point out the terrible hypocrisy, bigotry, discrimination, and church sponsored poverty that has been going on for thousands of years, and continues to do so. So tough titty's mate. Religion is a dying superstition, accept it, and maybe you'll find that a life without 'faith' (whichever one you are brainwashed into believing in) is a life with purpose, a life where we treat everyone as equals, and do not discriminate beyond our own unfortunate human prejudices.....
If you are going to ask questions like this I am going to have to answer.Paradise earth ? What? And who's paradise? Yours? I need clarification as there are so many contradictory faiths I can never be sure which one people are talking about.
You are the example yourself. You are haveing just as many problems containing yourself as I am. It is only our viewpoint that is diffrent.Examples please. And since you are all knowing and all powerful, I assume you're not going to say that all atheists cannot contain their urges to kill, maim, and fiddle with children. That's just ignorant misconception, isn't it.
You seem to be hopeing for an end to religion.The day people have the courage to shed their comfort blankets, taking responsibility for their actions and embracing life for what it is, will be a great day for humanity. I'll wager that you'd be surprised that a world without religion wouldn't descend into immoral carnage - rather people would find purpose in their lives for life itself, and treat everyone in the same manner, without having to resort to the ridiculous and frankly obscene 'teachings' of dead and dying religions. Without wanting (without desperatly wanting) to sound like a prophet myself, that day is coming, and I for one can't wait. I doubt that it'll happen in my lifetime, but the slowly creeping realisation of the absurdity of religion and the harm that it causes, which greatly outweighs any benefit, has already started. Ignorance is no longer a defence. Face facts. Live life.