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Do klonopin make DP and DR worse? What are some effects and symptoms of withdrawl? Any info would be super helpful. :?:
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THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, but Id keep clear of it. Its the most potent of all the benzos. Benzos are well known for their tolerance producing, addictive qualities. This class of drug, initially works well anxiety(so it helps with dp/dr), but it can come at a great price. It worsens depressive states and it will more than likely eventually aggravate an anxiety disorder which will make your dp/dr much worse.

This class of drug should be reserved for very short term use only. Id use it sparingly only during times of SEVERE anxiety/panic.

Joe
Even after short-term use of clonazepam, there is evidence of physiological
dependence and consequent adverse withdrawal symptoms. Abrupt discontinuation of benzodiazepine therapy has been reported to cause withdrawal symptoms including irritability, nervousness, and insomnia. Benzodiazepine withdrawal is more likely to occur following abrupt cessation of excessive or prolonged doses, but it can occur following the discontinuance of therapeutic doses that have been administered for as few as 1?2 weeks. Abdominal cramps, confusion, depression, perceptual disturbances, sweating, nausea/vomiting, paresthesias, photophobia, hyperacusis5 , tachycardia, and trembling also occur during benzodiazepine withdrawal, but these reactions are less frequent. Convulsions, hallucinations, delirium, and paranoia also can occur. Benzodiazepines should be withdrawn cautiously and gradually, using a very gradual dosage-tapering schedule
Well...I quickly tapered klonopin and almost killed myself so Im probably not the best person to ask. This is my experience. I had been on it for 9 months at 2 mg. By month 3, I was already in severe tolerance and I was very sick. I decided to taper very quickly. When I withdrew, I had SEVERE anxiety/panic, depersonalization, derealization, seizures,delusions, horrific irrational fear, auditory and visual hallucinations, a feeling like my entire body was on fire, vomiting, twitching and spasming and many more symtoms. It was terrible.

I spent the first 12 days in and out of a emergency room because of life threateing blood pressure. I also spent 24 hours in a locked psychiatric ward. I had to get injected with narcotic pain killers to try to dull the burning I had all over my body. It was the worst experience of my life and the bad stuff lasted for 2 months.

Im not sure when the actual withdrawal ended because the severe stress I was put thru Im sure was enough to wreak havoc on my body and mind. I do know at 1 year off I still felt pretty bad.

Take some good advice. This class of drug is physically and psychologically addictive and Im sure if you do a little reasearch you will find out what Im talking about . If you are in bad shape and need instant relief than use it very sparingly. Do not take it on a regular basis. This stuff is very potent and has a long half life so it can cause a severe addiction in as little as 2 weeks. In my opinion the last thing a person with mental issues needs is to add the stress of addiction and withdrawal.

Joe
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Hi,

Dont scare yourself. What I went thru was due to a very abrupt withdrawal. I had a very ignorant doctor that knew nothing about benzodiazapene addiction and withdrawal. If you taper very slowly, the severe symptoms can be largely avoided. I still stick to my beliefs tho that this class of drug should be reserved for occaisional severe periods of anxiety and panic.

The buspar works primarily on serotonin so once you get stabilized on an ssri, It may help to potentiate the effects of the AD. In my case, solo it did nothing but it had great anxiolytic effect in combo with Celexa.

Ive never tried Neurontin. Ive read its very weak. It works on gaba like benzos but doesnt have the addictive qualities.

Joe
How long have you been completely been off the Klonopin?
Hi,

Thats a very small dose and you havent been on long. My guess is you should be fine quitting without a taper. You shouldnt experience any withdrawal. Im guessing your doctor will tell you the same thing.

The thing about benzo addiction is most people start out the same as you. Unfortunately they reach tolerance and need more and more. Before they know it they are a long term, high dose user and withdrawal is very difficult.

Shit can the Klonopin and find a different drug that has anxiolytic properties without the risks of severe addiction. Feel good that you probably dodged a bullet.

Joe
Dreamer,

How do you know you arent tolerant to the klonopin? You take the equivalent of 120mg of valium daily. You still experience anxiety at a dose that would put most people in a coma or coffin. Thats not a good sign that the klonopin is doing much good.

You now have a tremor? You talked about having tinnitus? Both of these are signs of tolerance withdrawal. I remember specifically that my hands started to shake nonstop when I reached tolerance. It went away once I got thru the severe withdrawal. It occurs when adrenaline starts running unchecked.

In my opinion, booze and benzos are a ridiculous treatment plan for any problem. Im guessing neither would have any effect on you any more.
Well...I went thru tremors during my klonopin addiction and withdrawal. I also got the morning tremors during my alcoholic daze. Ive read all over the place this can be caused by weakened gaba and unchecked adrenaline.

I dont know why you have tremors but I think you will be in denial no matter what. I guess thats what addiction is all about.
What is it?
Tremor is an involuntary, rhythmical, shaking movement, usually of the hands, lower arms, and head.

Who gets it?
Tremor occurs as a symptom of some neurological diseases, such as Parkinson's disease and multiple sclerosis, and in people with diseases of or damage to the cerebellum. Some people inherit this condition from a parent who has tremors, or develop it as a side effect of certain drugs or underlying disease. Tremor can affect both men and women.

What causes it?
Tremor occurs when the muscles relax and contract repeatedly. While most people experience a tremor at some time, usually because of fear or excitement, a number of neurological diseases that destroy nerve tissue cause uncontrollable tremor. These include Parkinson's disease and multiple sclerosis. Other causes include stroke or head injury; Wilson's disease, a hereditary disorder in which toxic levels of copper accumulate in the tissues; mercury poisoning; an over-active thyroid gland; and liver encephalopathy. Tremor can occur as a side effect of drugs including amphetamines, antidepressants, antipsychotics, caffeine, and lithium, and as a result of withdrawal from alcohol or addictive drugs.
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Dont worry da'burgh. Im sure your twitches are just a product of your anxiety. I wouldnt give it another thought.

Joe
Hi Celeste,

I see Paxil didnt agree with you. Im curious how long you were on it before you gave up.

Joe
Hi Celeste,

I sort of figured that. What dose did you start at? As strange as it seems, the people that initially react the worst are probably the ones that will benefit the most from this class of drug. It gets a little complicated but there are some strong theories about it.

Joe
Im glad to hear that you are tolerating the Celexa. It may be the xanax thats sort of masking the activation anxiety. Were you taking benzos at the time you tried the Zoloft? You sound like you have a good plan. I have a feeling the Celexa will in time help you.

Joe
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