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You are on this forum because you realize that the person you appear to be is not real. This is great and it is something most apparent humans simply do not see. Stop searching for an answer to what you really are.

You are here right now to realize that you are what many call God; some call it the mystery, or unconditional awareness, etc. That is your reality. It is that simple, yet mind is causing you problems and having you search for answers to what you are.

Stop looking for answers or a cure. Stop researching neuroscience, or wondering about existential stuff. These things are fine to do, until your Reality tells you to stop and look inside. So Look inside to That which has never been affected by any mental or physical condition. Can you realize you are That already? ????

Have you heard of the book: Depersonalization Disorder and the Loss of The Self? Please realize that that book was written by authors who did not realize their reality. If they knew their Reality, which is our Reality, they would have called it "Depersonalization Disorder: the Realization of The False Self on the Path to knowing The Real Self of All, God." May my words bring you peace now.
 

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What is this, some dualist nonsense? "Find your soul, for that is where the real you resides!" This isn't the first one of these weird, pushy posts from you, either.

You are here right now to realize that you are what many call God; some call it the mystery, or unconditional awareness, etc. That is your reality. It is that simple, yet mind is causing you problems and having you search for answers to what you are.

Stop looking for answers or a cure. Stop researching neuroscience, or wondering about existential stuff. These things are fine to do, until your Reality tells you to stop and look inside. So Look inside to That which has never been affected by any mental or physical condition. Can you realize you are That already?
If you think you can escape to some magical realm and to cure DPDR that way, you're delusional. Your mind is supervenient on the brain because it's a function of the brain. There is no deeper level of consciousness independent of the (impaired) brain that you can somehow escape into and forget how DPDR is messing up your mental functioning. Your reality is entirely dependent on the physical states of your brain and body at any given moment, and as long as the cause of DPDR exists in that configuration of atoms that is you, you will continue to experience the symptoms.

But of course, what I say most likely doesn't exactly apply to all cases; that is, there isn't an organic cause but a mental one (though that is also physical in a sense). The way I see it, to some this is more like OCD. They obsess about existential stuff and seem to conflate that with DPDR, which, to me, definitely should have a perceptual component. Yeah, to those people the best course of action would be just getting rid of the obsessions, but that still doesn't have anything to do with "finding one's Reality and looking inside", whatever that means-as if there's some metaphysical core in you that's accessible through effort that lets you escape all negative sensations at will.

You are on this forum because you realize that the person you appear to be is not real.
Eh, no, I'm not. That's a very limited conception of DPDR. For one, those with DR only don't have this sensation.

If they knew their Reality, which is our Reality, they would have called it "Depersonalization Disorder: the Realization of The False Self on the Path to knowing The Real Self of All, God." May my words bring you peace now.
lol. If we're all gods, then what is God?
 

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It actually sounds more non-dual. I have heard depersonalization referred to as enlightenments evil twin. I guess some could put it into the narrative that this is a spiritual journey we have to push through.

Although the main story I tell myself about this is a neurobiological condition, similar to PTSD (for me) and that I can cure this by medical methods, I do overlook the spiritual side.

I was slightly religious as a child, went to Sunday school and my nan was quite christian. But this just put the idea of a 'god' in my head, as a person, which I think is quite cruel. Because it started with me thinking that God didn't care about me or wanted to save me from pain, and eventually lead to me thinking that 'god' actually massively disliked me and wanted to punish me. Neither of which are true as I don't think god exists in that sense.

But this also made me quite dependent on a fantasy to come and save me, and detracted from the idea that I am strong and have will power to save myself from this. And in a way, this detached us from our 'self' as we don't think that has power, but a magical being in the sky does.

Some do find the answer from spirituality and a higher power. I know there is a sense of that with magic mushroom trips (something I am microdosing atm). And this can be powerful and heal people from all kinds of ailments. I have also tried the above method of stop searching as this itself is suffering. Unfortunately there isn't one thing to cure them all with DP, so let us know if this method helps
 

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You are on this forum because you realize that the person you appear to be is not real. This is great and it is something most apparent humans simply do not see. Stop searching for an answer to what you really are.

You are here right now to realize that you are what many call God; some call it the mystery, or unconditional awareness, etc. That is your reality. It is that simple, yet mind is causing you problems and having you search for answers to what you are.

Stop looking for answers or a cure. Stop researching neuroscience, or wondering about existential stuff. These things are fine to do, until your Reality tells you to stop and look inside. So Look inside to That which has never been affected by any mental or physical condition. Can you realize you are That already?

Have you heard of the book: Depersonalization Disorder and the Loss of The Self? Please realize that that book was written by authors who did not realize their reality. If they knew their Reality, which is our Reality, they would have called it "Depersonalization Disorder: the Realization of The False Self on the Path to knowing The Real Self of All, God." May my words bring you peace now.
Exestentialism in a nutshell.......Its exactly this type of bull that we want to but cant escape from....FFS........If the people on here who are TRULY suffering could turn off their obessive DP thinking they would...F***in Bible Bumpers drive me nuts.........
 

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I'm not spiritual and I've only read some of the New Testament. I went to an Adyashanti retreat in Feb, the first one I've been to, told him and the 200 or so others in the room my symptoms of dp/dr without mentioning dpd, and he told me he would consider me half enlightened. The words I speak are the Truth.

The bottom line is that nothing that appears and disappears has inherent reality. This of course is the entire world. But That which is our Reality ( call it God or pure consciousness or whatever) is the only thing that has ever and will ever exist. To realize this is the reason why I was born. Could it be the reason why you were born as well? Does your mind realize the unreality of the world?
 

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Exestentialism in a nutshell.......Its exactly this type of bull that we want to but cant escape from....FFS........If the people on here who are TRULY suffering could turn off their obessive DP thinking they would...F***in Bible Bumpers drive me nuts.........
Find out what all your thoughts arise from. It is silence, a stillness, and this is your True Nature. That which appears to suffer is not real, but its reality is the source of all things. Look inside and find out. There comes a point when the sufferer is seen to be unreal; this is what I realized about 1 year ago.
 

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I'm not spiritual and I've only read some of the New Testament. I went to an Adyashanti retreat in Feb, the first one I've been to, told him and the 200 or so others in the room my symptoms of dp/dr without mentioning dpd, and he told me he would consider me half enlightened. The words I speak are the Truth.

The bottom line is that nothing that appears and disappears has inherent reality. This of course is the entire world. But That which is our Reality ( call it God or pure consciousness or whatever) is the only thing that has ever and will ever exist. To realize this is the reason why I was born. Could it be the reason why you were born as well? Does your mind realize the unreality of the world?
So some spiritual quack fed you some new age bullshit that you swallowed whole, and now you're vomiting and smearing it all over these forums in an attempt to convert us as well. No thanks. I'd rather keep my rationality.
 
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It actually sounds more non-dual. I have heard depersonalization referred to as enlightenments evil twin. I guess some could put it into the narrative that this is a spiritual journey we have to push through.

Although the main story I tell myself about this is a neurobiological condition, similar to PTSD (for me) and that I can cure this by medical methods, I do overlook the spiritual side.

I was slightly religious as a child, went to Sunday school and my nan was quite christian. But this just put the idea of a 'god' in my head, as a person, which I think is quite cruel. Because it started with me thinking that God didn't care about me or wanted to save me from pain, and eventually lead to me thinking that 'god' actually massively disliked me and wanted to punish me. Neither of which are true as I don't think god exists in that sense.

But this also made me quite dependent on a fantasy to come and save me, and detracted from the idea that I am strong and have will power to save myself from this. And in a way, this detached us from our 'self' as we don't think that has power, but a magical being in the sky does.

Some do find the answer from spirituality and a higher power. I know there is a sense of that with magic mushroom trips (something I am microdosing atm). And this can be powerful and heal people from all kinds of ailments. I have also tried the above method of stop searching as this itself is suffering. Unfortunately there isn't one thing to cure them all with DP, so let us know if this method helps
For over 2 decades I was the searcher of Reality. I was the sufferer of dpd. But then about 1 year ago I realized beyond doubt that the searcher and sufferer are not real. What a laugh I had! So then, what am I? I know myself to be the background of all experience. I am everything in general as I perceive no separation between "me" and "other". Yet I am nothing in particular. Thus, everything is nothing. This is what I Am and I accept it. This is OUR Reality.

Your username is broken. Not for 1 second of your life have you been broken. You may THINK you are broken, but it is simply not true.
 

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So some spiritual quack fed you some new age bullshit that you swallowed whole, and now you're vomiting and smearing it all over these forums in an attempt to convert us as well. No thanks. I'd rather keep my rationality.
You are on here because you are suffering. This is the whole world..sufferering, no matter the form. I assume you want peace? Find out what inside you has never not been at peace and this suffering will stop or at least lessen.

If you want the mind to run your life, so be it. Don't listen to what I say. This fight you are giving is mind itself. Mind appears in your Reality. Find out what That is
 

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What is this, some dualist nonsense? Find your soul, for that is where the real you resides! This isn't the first one of these weird, pushy posts from you, either.

If you think you can escape to some magical realm and to cure DPDR that way, you're delusional. Your mind is supervenient on the brain because it's a function of the brain. There is no deeper level of consciousness independent of the (impaired) brain that you can somehow escape into and forget how DPDR is messing up your mental functioning. Your reality is entirely dependent on the physical states of your brain and body at any given moment, and as long as the cause of DPDR exists in that configuration of atoms that is you, you will continue to experience the symptoms.

But of course, what I say most likely doesn't exactly apply to all cases; that is, there isn't an organic cause but a mental one (though that is also physical in a sense). The way I see it, to some this is more like OCD. They obsess about existential stuff and seem to conflate that with DPDR, which, to me, definitely should have a perceptual component. Yeah, to those people the best course of action would be just getting rid of the obsessions, but that still doesn't have anything to do with "finding one's Reality and looking inside", whatever that means-as if there's some metaphysical core in you that's accessible through effort that lets you escape all negative sensations at will.

Eh, no, I'm not. That's a very limited conception of DPDR. For one, those with DR only don't have this sensation.

lol. If we're all gods, then what is God?
God is your reality. I don't like the word God, so I prefer ' the mystery ' or something like that. Deep inside you is the knowledge of your connection with all apparent things. Lastly, you are right to say my first statement is incorrect. You might be on here for support or to drown in sorrow or whatever. I was on this forum doing the same thing 20 years ago (it had a different name back then). To realize that That which is searching for connection and an end to separation is the mystery Itself is to realize your True Nature. Our true nature. Best to you.
 

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God is your reality. I don't like the word God, so I prefer ' the mystery ' or something like that. Deep inside you is the knowledge of your connection with all apparent things. Lastly, you are right to say my first statement is incorrect. You might be on here for support or to drown in sorrow or whatever. I was on this forum doing the same thing 20 years ago (it had a different name back then). To realize that That which is searching for connection and an end to separation is the mystery Itself is to realize your True Nature. Our true nature. Best to you.
All The Best to you too. May you Dig ever Deeper into your soul in pursuit of The Final Truth™. Perhaps One Day us Lowly plebs, too, shall Attain Enlightenment. On a more Serious Note, though, I hope That One day you'll see how MisGuided you are with This Drivel, for your Own and everyOne Else's Sake

Critical thinking, some healthy skepticism, and common sense are what you need. Maybe then you wouldn't be so credulous to this new age mumbo jumbo. It's just sad how you've lost your mind to it.
 
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@gmriefler have you found relief from your DP with this? I listened to Adyashanti a while ago and have to say that although it sounds nice it gave me no real answers. If you want to go hardcore into non duality look up Tony Parsons lol he is entertaining and I think genuine....

But I do feel this is a distraction. For a lot here I believe that the way out is through the pain not 'following your bliss'. Facing fear, processing trauma, talking about your issues, fixing your relationships, feeling not thinking.... I think non duality is interesting, but this is a mental disorder primarily brought on by the fear response in a panic attack that makes the 'self' parts of the brain shut down.

This isn't enlightenment, and although Adyashanti might sound enlightened I assure you he isn't. There's no such thing. He is a charlatan charging extortionate amounts for his retreats, and he has simply repackaged Zen and other forms of Buddhism into a more digestible format for westerners. You may be having a spiritual crisis or an awakening, but if there is trauma or issues from the past, I would focus on that more than spirituality.

Years of meditation might cure this, but personally I would want something quicker than that
 

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See, i once entertained this idea too for a short time. But not being real doesnt even make sense. Currently, I believe we are all connected in a sense because we are all made of the same stuff (atoms, stardust, whatever you wanna call it) but we are all individual. Whether reality is an illusion or not, life is still life. In a spiritual sense, i guess i like to think we are all our own separate universes that eventually end. I dont believe in god or the mystery or whatever it is. We are all individual so that would mean we are all god if thats true. We are not the only things to exist. And we wouldnt make a universe for ourselves to live if the life on earth is doomed to die anyway. There will be a point where life will no longer exist on this planet when the sun grows large and vaporizes the planet. If we were the only things to exist, surely, wed want to exist forever but thats simply not possible. I honestly believe life is a byproduct of our universes forces and we are separate from it in the fact that we are living creatures with feelings and a desire to keep living and thats it and that is the reality i live in. Life is full of suffering because what would life be without it? We need the suffering to understand what happiness is and we exist in a very chaotic universe. If your belief is one that prevents you from suffering then good for you but i dont personally believe in what your saying. The universe exists for a very simple reason. Nothingness cannot exist without something. You could even go as far to say nothingness doesnt even exist.
 
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