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I believe what people have called "Loss of the Soul" in past times and other circles is the same as DP/DR. Thing is, imho, it only *feels* like you've lost your Soul. My reasoning? What's suffering from this loss if not the Soul itself? Without the Soul, then there wouldn't be anything left to suffer.
 

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I believe what people have called "Loss of the Soul" in past times and other circles is the same as DP/DR. Thing is, imho, it only *feels* like you've lost your Soul. My reasoning? What's suffering from this loss if not the Soul itself? Without the Soul, then there wouldn't be anything left to suffer.
Well it's quite the strong feeling then. I mean i don't have the ability to even sleep right now. The soul does leave the body as I am experiencing this a lot. But you are saying the soul is not all lost or gone? It's still there somewhere?
 

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I'm saying that if there is a soul then that is who you are. Assuming that's true, *you* would have left and gone away and called this disorder "Body Loss". Also, out of body symptoms, just feelings imho. Because there are OBE/NDE's where individuals actually leave their bodies and look down from above, etc. I have Soul Loss feelings and Out of Body feelings too, but I haven't gone anywhere and haven't looked down on my body. Some may have though, experienced looking down on their body maybe during sleep or something, but that's fleeting. My point is if we were really out of body, soul loss, then we wouldn't be coming from the bodies perspective.
 

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I'm saying that if there is a soul then that is who you are. Assuming that's true, *you* would have left and gone away and called this disorder "Body Loss". Also, out of body symptoms, just feelings imho. Because there are OBE/NDE's where individuals actually leave their bodies and look down from above, etc. I have Soul Loss feelings and Out of Body feelings too, but I haven't gone anywhere and haven't looked down on my body. Some may have though, experienced looking down on their body maybe during sleep or something, but that's fleeting. My point is if we were really out of body, soul loss, then we wouldn't be coming from the bodies perspective.
I don't know if I am following completely.. All I have right now is an empty body/ completely hollow of humanness. To me, I am gone. What was me, my soul, essence as a human being, is no more. I no longer control any part of me. I do not occupy my body whatsoever
 

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My main point though is arguing that if you are a soul, then these feelings wouldn't bother you if you really lost your soul. Because what would be the Self in you that is feeling all the pain of this?
I don't have that self in me. It's my body that is super uncomfortable. I am now in a sense my body which is not true hence the discomfort. It's so confusing. All i know is that whoever was here is no longer here the same at least. I don't react or feel anything. I don't know who ppl are. I am not me
 

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My main point though is arguing that if you are a soul, then these feelings wouldn't bother you if you really lost your soul. Because what would be the Self in you that is feeling all the pain of this?
I think I get what you are saying now. Sorry I am so slow lately. You are saying that more so my body is lost and I would agree with that. My biggest complaint is that I can't feel my body or my physicality. Someone is experiencing that and that is me, the soul. The soul is not lost, it's the body that is lost/ disconnected.
 

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Yes you got it! Whatever we are, a Soul, or our Consciousness, it's actively rejecting the body/mind. That's just how I see it currently anyway.
Or if you prefer, our own mind is dissociating/resisting itself.
I agree. That makes sense. It's living hell. Is our sense of self totally brought on by the brain? Any suggestions for living like this?
 

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What I do is meditate or be mindful of the constant resistance and then be accepting of the self/body/mind. To cope I try to find enjoyment in the small things; a cup of coffee, a conversation with a friend, a meal or chocolate. I understand though, you're at a place right now where everything is the same nothingness and lacks meaning. For that I'd say just keep going one day a time, and be proud of yourself for having survived this long. And know "This too shall pass."
 

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What I do is meditate or be mindful of the constant resistance and then be accepting of the self/body/mind. To cope I try to find enjoyment in the small things; a cup of coffee, a conversation with a friend, a meal or chocolate. I understand though, you're at a place right now where everything is the same nothingness and lacks meaning. For that I'd say just keep going one day a time, and be proud of yourself for having survived this long. And know "This too shall pass."
Can you feel your actions? I cannot
 

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Could be kind of like an autoimmune disorder but for the mind. Autoimmune disorders are when the body attacks otherwise healthy organs. This could be the same thing but for the psyche.
Did you feel completely removed from your body as though you weren't controlling it at all? Sorry that's where i am these last couple of days and i am terrified of it and terrified of the unknown bc of it
 
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