[orangeaid]

It started this one night I tried some pot. I had a pipe and I didnt even fill up a whole bowl. I lit it up and took about 6 puffs, one of which a seed burst and it created a big puff of it, I could feel it in my lungs.

That night I felt so out of it. All of a sudden it came over me, this feeling. I had the tv on and I felt I could not remember what happen 5 seconds ago. My heart started racing I started to panic. My anxiety was making me feel so scared. I couldnt fall asleep for a while but eventually I did There was also one other time I did pot, which was two years ago and I had a similar reaction to it, nerveous.

The next morning I just felt like hung over, my senses were not sharp I felt slow really slow. The mental fatigue started to go away, and then I got this flash almost like I felt like when I was high. One night when I was bowling all of a sudden for a split second I kinda forgot like where I was and what I was doing, this scarred me so much. The shrink I went to said that these were be panic attacks. I got three more of those until I went to a shrink and they put me back on zoloft which i took initally for anxiety.

I was on the zoloft for 2-3 years 50mg and then i quit it around late feb to early march of this year. The night I smoked up was early to mid april.

ANYWAY...

Its about 2 1/2 months later and I feel odd. I feel out of place not right kinda.

-I have always complained my eye sight has been odd, never the same
-I feel almost slow computing things in my brain, like multi stimuli are hard for me to absorb
-I dont really know what being "stoned" is, but I feel like I am slightly intoxicated with something.
-I feel slow, stupid, memory is horrible, hard to focus
-My eyes are always drooping like its 1 am in the morning
-Constant fatigue
-Certain lights bother me
-I feel "out of it"

I dont know what I have, I have always had bad anxiety but I dont know what I am feeling right now. Its not so much that I feel like im not in my body or detached, i just feel intoxicated all the time. Like I have a buzz of some sort.

Would this be considered DP/DR? I dont know what it is I just never feel great.

Any advice would be lovely : ).

 

[bright23]

What was your reason for going off zoloft? Are you still seeing a therapist?

 

[Universal]

well by the sound of it you don't have DP/DR cause if you did you'd be freakin out alot more than you are now. probably what you have is just depression/anxiety. some of those symptoms of tiredness you can get rid of with usual methods like exercise, try to be more outgoing, go out with friends and stuff.. just get yourself more motivated about your life so you don't cascade any lower.

god bless.

 

[orangeaid]

I went off zoloft because I was feeling absolutely better, I felt better than ever in my life. Anxiety free, I was able to do things I could never do before.

I went off of it because i felt I could do with out it. Since September I was on like 50mg every other day, I was skipping a lot through the course of the winter, till one day I just stopped taking it. I was fine for that month. Until I smoked that one time. Oh and yes I am seeing my shrink. I was seeing him every other week for the past month. I am seeing him again mid July-ish. I told him about the flashes I got he said it was panic attack. But I get these odd flashes when I over think my surroundings. I get to the point were I feel like I am HIGHLY intoxicated like I cant even think straight when I get these "flashes" which last a few seconds but are scary as hell.

I didnt really think I had DP/DR I just have always felt odd since. I really was full of anxiety for the first 3 weeks on zoloft then i mellowed out which was nice. I think im on week 5 or 6 and I do feel a lot better than what I was anxiety wise, but that first month while I had no zoloft after I smoked was one of the worst experiences of my life.

For the past two weeks I have been having little anxiety, just still very spacy. Is anxiety very cumulative? Could you think I am having after affects of horrible anxiety which was about 3-4 weeks ago. I mean granted I still have some but I have had anxiety before which never caused me to feel this way. I think i was depressed a little while there too because of anxiety, I didnt want to do anything mainly I was scared but I still didnt want to do ANYTHING.

Since then I have gone out with friends and I feel that is one of my only breaks I get, I feel when I am with my friends I feel much better, but not completely there like im completely functioning. I have read that depression can make you feel like how I am describing, but this feels bad, almost like I feel woozy, dizzy kinda.

Thank you very much for your time, it means a lot to me.

 

[rainboteers]

Check your blood sugar. Dizzy and whoozy are some of the symptoms I get with hyopglycemia, but unfortunately I have many more that can't be explained by the blood sugar problem.

 

[jft]

Orangeaid I relate wellto your symptoms. At the top of the index here is the nodid study on drug induced dp. There is alot of discussion among many who get what seems like dp/dr that it jsut seems like we are still stoned when we feel symptoms. I am fine too when I wake up or after a nap, but as I go about my day I slowly fade away mentally and extreme fatiue sets in. I use the terms dp/dr becasue i relate well to many of the classic syptoms, but mostly dr. Most here and some studies done say that drug induced dp/dr is the same as non drug induced. I hope furthur studies help clarify this. But the fact remains that you had anxiety all your life and therefor had a predisoposition for this to happen and drugs may have jsut supercharged it, triggered it. This is what happened to me. I still say I jsut feel stoned, even though i may jsut be experiencing the dr/dp that I had while I was indeed stoned. it seems familiar but may have nothing to do with the drug effects themselves. Irregardless, this board basically speaks to all of us, for the immediate treatment seems to be the same for all of us, if not the problem itself. The bottom line is to try to contol the anxieites, stay away from obsessing and get on with your life the best you can until we all know more about our situations. It is imperative that you staya way from any psychoacitve drugs. This is for sure.

Did the zoloft do you any good for the anxiety and panic? People get dr/dp with panic attacks, but it goes away when the attack goes away. My dr/dp/feels like I am stoned feeling stays with me until I sleep. I found ssri's did not help with these feelings.

Anyway, whatever you "have", stay cool. There is indeed light at the end of the tunnel.
jft

 

[orangeaid]

i have gottten blood work done, for diabetes and thyroid, and other stuff that might cause this, they turned up negative.

I thought that it might be DP/DR, but im not really sure where I stand, I dont know what this is. It does sound a lot like what Jft is saying.

my zoloft used to cure my anxiety when i first went on it VERY VERY well, its an amazing drug I had little side effects to it. My second time (recently) it took longer to work, more side-effects I think. It helps a bunch with the anxiety but it still lingers.

my side effects were (recently):
insomnia (only for the first week, but it was bad insomnia)
static like vision (oh boy did i think I had HPPD, but i know now i dont)
more fatigue kicked in, not much though

non of which was too bad, just was odd at first, they kinda faded away as I am on it longer.

 

[nemesis]

I've suffered for years with the same drunk, woozy, foggy feelings that you are experiencing. Multiple medical examinations including CTs MRIs, EEGs and finally a SPECT all returned no clues as to what was causing the symptoms. Only recently have I discovered that these symptoms are a well documented symptom of high level anxiety. The brain apparently will shut down in an attempt to protect you from the trauma of the anxious moment.

 

[Guest]

It sounds like you may have had a few transient episodes of dr/dp, I guess some ppl can feel "odd", "out of it," and "not right" all the time and not have dp, although that is how a lot of dpers describe it. Your other symptoms of lights bothering you (i'm guessing flourescents or sunlight), eye sight being different and memory problems fit into the dp/dr category but also (someone correct me if i'm wrong) the hppd category, which are very similar anyways.

You have to as well be aware that what you have can be the other way around, that you may well have chronic anxiety that leads to panic attacks which posess the dp/dr symptoms you are describing. As of yet, no one knows the direction or causal relationship of anxiety and dp/dr, just that they are definitely associated.

Hope you can make sense of that

 

[orangeaid]

I think i actually was feeling better this one day, the same day i noticed some static vision and thought I had HPPD. I read for a week straight about it, and it made me feel worse, my anxiety was back at an all time high. I slowly weened out of that state and realized that my vision wasnt bad, i just focus on things and i will see what my mind whats me to see. Never the less I dont have visual problems like that.

Hppd is strictly the visual aspect. As you can suspect with this kind of visual disturbance comes great anxiety. So many people will agree that DP/DR is brought on sometimes by just anxiety it would be hppd>anxiety>DP/DR. Poor memory comes along with the anxiety I think.

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What I am worried about is why do I feel so shitty like? I feel this slow dumb kinda feeling. My anxiety really isnt that bad lately. It has been about 2 weeks of my anxiety being low. Of course I still am a little neverous but i dont think enough to make me fell like this. Maybe its depression, I do feel depressed sometimes, lately I have been noticing feelings have come back to me, I feel like I am happy, laughing, and other times I feel like I can be sad. Like a few weeks ago I would be scared but I would be so "numb".

Anyway it was like 9 PM and I feel so tired, it shouldnt be this bad. So I dont know why but im tired, maybe I am not getting proper sleep? I never feel fully rested i suppose. I dont know what the hell is wrong with me.

 

[Da'Burgh]

Try and stop making so many connections. Sounds to me like you have DP/DR. Just because it's not full blown doesn't mean it's not DP/DR. It could just be DR. But I am 99% sure that what I have is DR. I'm on the verge of killing this and my anxiety has been low for weeks. What you absolutely have to do is not let the little stuff bother you. Embrace that you have anxiety, see the symptom, and live though it knowing that you're gonna be just fine. Trust me, you'll be fine. If you need someone to talk to on AIM or MSN Messanger, click the little icon on my post.

 

[Idiot]

static like vision (oh boy did i think I had HPPD, but i know now i dont)

what is your static vision caused by, then? how do you know you dont? HPPD has a wide range of symptoms and severities.

well by the sound of it you don't have DP/DR cause if you did you'd be freakin out alot more than you are now. probably what you have is just depression/anxiety.

no, it doesn't really seem that way at all to me. the label 'anxiety/despression' for what he is describing here falls horribly short. my own condition set on in the exact same way: stoned, watching tv, suddenly i felt like i couldnt remember 5 seconds before (this is EXACTLY how it happened for me, too, by the way), terrified, panic set in for a very long time, went to sleep, woke up with actual disruptions in vision, afterimages, static, more floaters, but these were the least of my problems as i felt like i was in sort of a vacuum head with loud thoughts and perceptual experiences bouncing off of me like i had a big awkward helmet or fishbowl on my head. by default i just retreat into my own head and have to put so much effort into actually being outside of my thoughts and in the here/now. can't think, can't deal with extra noise, feel very unfocused on any task i try to do.

this is an ideal state from which to drive yourself right into a depersonalized mess. I strongly feel that the marijuana HAS caused some type of permanent change of base state in my mind. it seems that if the physically based visual traces were still felt years later that physically based mental problems could also reside

But then i think about the times i have felt better and im not so sure about things. sometimes it's like a switch flipped in my head and the river was wide open again, sometimes like below, but always accompanied by actual physical feeling in my head like the machine is back on. haven't had one of these moments/periods for over a year now though

anyway, what im trying to say is that i identify with orangeaid

the thing that has helped me the most, orange, is studying in complete solitude and silence for long periods of time. It takes forever to really get going, as my mind wanders and i feel really stupid because i can't pay attention, cant stay awake. I just let myself do whatever while always returning to the task at hand. I let myself sleep, wander off, but always come back. Sooner or later i get in a heavy groove and its like im dissociating in a good way. i do this for a really long time and sooner or later my mind starts churning harder. then 6-10 hours later i emerge in the clearest state of mind, it's beautiful, but things always seem to fade back away... very strange.

 

[orangeaid]

actually it wasnt even so much static vision. I feel fine now and I dont notice Static Vision. All that it was, was me over thinking things. I do not have hppd, I know for a fact, I dont have any odd visual disturbances. I might get scared about having them but i never get them.

I dont know really wants wrong, but usally at night time I feel normal. I feel right. It is basically that I have this feeling all day that I am drained mentally/physically, like it is time for bed.

I have never been quite the same, but i doubt in myself that pot did something that cant be reversed in my body. I am pretty sure that my mind is just completely stressed out from me worrying. I used to get panic attacks, I do get burst of anxiety but they are not as bad. I just think right now I am monitoring everything that I might think is wrong with me, and it is forcing me to feel this way. I hope it goes away and I'm pretty sure it will, I think I just need some time to unwind. Its not so much the DR that I might feel, its just I have so much anxiety, I think that is the cause of the problem, im not going to say that pot caused something that would chemically change forever.

Btw I did do pot before this about 2 years ago had about the same reaction, not as severe but I felt much better in a month or two, but I was also on zoloft the whole time and it helped to control my anxiety, I started the zoloft late this time and my anxiety had time to take its tull.

Sometimes at night I feel so normal that I question if I really have somethign wrong with me or not. It's jsut the day I always feel tired. But what ever this is I hope that it can reverse itself