Agree. If you have these symptoms without server anxiety at the outset you have to have done some testing to exclude that it haven't an organic origin.His personal opinion didn't offend me, but his
failure to order an EEG to establish my epilepsy cost me many years of life.
I'm sorry you had that kind of doctor!I believe dp and dr are themselves symptoms. Sometimes they can be symptoms of a serious underlying illness. Other times...not.
Which is why I recommend having an EEG to help sort it out.
There is no test to establish you are experiencing symptoms of dp/dr.
My dp/dr stemmed from an epileptic syndrome. Yours might stem from Lyme disease, or some other neurological illness.
Or even emotional stressors which are beyond your coping capacity.
Brain doctors have "bigger fish to fry", as one neurologist put it to me. His personal opinion didn't offend me, but his
failure to order an EEG to establish my epilepsy cost me many years of life.
"You don't have anything". Haha, well done therapist.I'm sorry you had that kind of doctor!
I had EEG and all sort of things like that. Nothing major there.
My symptoms are more visual nowadays, but all eye doctors say the same thing "I don't see anything wrong with you, go and see a neurologist". And all neurologists are saying "I don't see anything wrong with you, go and see an ophthalmologist". So I go from one to another trying to convince them there's something wrong with me. The same goes with therapists. One diagnosed me with dp/dr, another one told me "Who diagnosed you? You don't have anything". So
Omg! Thank you so much! That made me feel better! And I'm so sorry you are in the same boat as me.I'm sick of hearing these f*****g doctors never giving people an answer, I am in the same situation as you, I am so sorry you are lumped with shit ignorant doctors.
The fact your EEG is normal 100% rules out everything serious, I promise you.
Can you remember how your symptoms started and when? Any history of drugs? "Medication" history (sorry I hate the word medication, none of it works and it is not medication, it is DRUGS that alter and change physiology.
I wish I could help you, try to have a read over my posts, hopefully it is reassuring as I have been to the ER about 60 times now, my heart stays at 140 for days, they can't find anything wrong with me.
I am making them refer me to a cardiologist because of wild springs with my blood pressure.
I promise you your normal EEG rules out everything, so many of these "doctors" seem like untrained random people picked up from the street, throw you on drugs that don't work for anything, sorry for being so miserable I have had it with doctors now.
I've met some very nice ones but a lot of so sarcastic and arrogant and rude b*****ds and they all have the same rancid disgusting breath! I tell them make an appointment to a dentist when they try moan at me
No, I never had a problem with alcohol.You are more than welcome honestly never need to thank me. Did you ever drink alcohol at all? Mine all seemed to start from alcohol, I have stopped for 5 months but feel only a little bit better, I woke up one day with this DP/DR. I wish I could explain but honestly
You'll have to have a read over my posts because I literately have 1000 symptoms, I'll copy my recent post of symptoms I think I listed everything there.
Past few days I literately can't even explain how I feel, except for being asleep with my eyes open and like I am walking in front or behind of myself, whole body feels weightless and like hollow as if I have no muscle at all.
With the visual symptoms a few weeks back I got up one morning and honestly, I felt like my whole vision was lagging as in a video game with like frame rates! Made me call an ambulance straight away, doctors told me my eyes were fine, again. Sort of like watching a video and being in a video game. I think it all comes down to hyper awareness and obsessive monitoring of absolutely everything.
But what I don't agree with is therapists and doctors saying "it's your thoughts causing these symptoms" I gave up with therapy myself. Nobody will ever ever know that it is not us causing our symptoms by thinking, we can't help what we have at all, and all they say is "take a deep breath" we have anxiety, I wish I could help but honestly keep thinking of your normal EEG, that is the best test ever. I've not had an EEG but have had a brain scan, which was normal. I would love an EEG but they won't do one on me.
Just try to remember and keep telling yourself your EEG is normal. Honestly I think an EEG is better than brain scans because an EEG shows the actual activity and what is going on with the brain.
Go to the ER as many times as you want to, and when they tell you that you are fine just try to remember that, but I promise you I know that you will get new different symptoms everyday, it's why I go to the ER so much because I always have something completely new and am so so convinced that time is when I am going to die, then I go to the ER and once again all tests come back normal.
Sorry about talk of doctors being picked up from the street but I promise any doctor will not discharge you from the ER if there was something wrong with you.
Feeling like I am possessed
Constant panic attacks
Constant Sinus Tachycardia Heart Rate 64-130 (Hit 150 in ambulance today)
Feeling like I am "possessed"
Feeling like someone is controlling my thoughts
Feeling like someone is controlling my body and my actions
Sweaty ice cold hands veins disappear then come back and go warm
"Vibrating buzzing in random muscles all over my body"
No idea how I am making my own actions
In a nightmare
Spaced out, horrible trance
Like I am high on cannabis without the nice effects
Like a robot, an alien
Random 30 second moments of freak out and shouting "WTF is this"
Constantly crying until I have no tears left
Fingers going numb when typing
"Arms and legs fallen off"
Floating, no weight to my body at all
Heart racing so easily and even more when walking, sitting forward, breathing
Feeling like I am dying 24/7, feelings get more extreme
Looking at everything and can't absorb anything
Like there is a "wall" in front of me
In a bubble, trapped
Extreme restlessness that comes in attacks then somehow goes then comes back
Feeling like I am sinking and going down an elevator
Feeling like I am falling through the sky
Going completely braindead, can't think of anything
Can't make sense of anything
Whirly, wavy vision
Going white in my face often, everyone stares in shock horror
Feeling "me" come back into my conscious and freaking out for seconds
Walking feels weird, like robotic
Minutes ago feel like years ago
Weird sense of being stuck in same moment, past moments don't seem to of happened
Not knowing how I have got to places, how I have made decisions
That's not true at all from my experience.physicians often neglect the psychological.
I didn't question why I had to teach myself what things were all over again. I just felt like I had to do it to feel better. And as years went on I became kinda chill with the whole situation. I don't know, I just got that fundamental level of "dp/dr can't hurt me. It's not there to hurt me. It's there to protect me." I had to convince myself over and over and at one point it just stuck. Yeah, it can feel weird. Yeah, it can feel confusing. But it's not there to hurt me. I stopped giving all of the symptoms so much value. I'm like "oh well, I guess this is how life is now. cool"Omg. "This is the floor this is an apple"
Can I please ask you, did you feel like you didn't know what they were but you deep down did? That was my first ever symptom, back in the summer, I looked at my fan and for some reason was like "that's a fan, you know what it is" then looked at my TV "yeah that's a TV"
I knew what they are but why on earth would I question things like that? Very hard to explain. But wow that was definitely where this all began for me, like complete brain damage or going psychotic I thought.
I think we try to label everything to feel better. To feel connected. To know we are not alone and someone out there is experiencing the same things we do. We are just so scared to feel alone. But sometimes we have to just to okay with whatever is. Cause we're all human. We can't experience something super extraordinary. We have human issues no matter what. Nothing that out of the box.The mental and physical are connected. Despite this, psychs often neglect the physical, and physicians often neglect the psychological.
MDs might be able to rule out some specific causes, so you should look into that. It makes sense to differentiate between DP triggered by migraines, for instance, because there's treatment and diagnosis available to people who have migraines.
I think our urge to label and categorize everything, even things we don't understand, can be a weakness.
Really? You haven't been accused of being a hypochondriac or heard the mantra "it's in your head" or "it's anxiety", at least implicitly? Attributing everything to anxiety/psychology seems to be very common from what I've seen/read.I was speaking from my experience. Of course, many doctors are smart and many focus on psychology, but not all.
By this, do you mean that they will refer everybody to psychology when they inevitably find nothing physically wrong?That's not true at all from my experience.
Yeah, more or less that. They might not even make a serious attempt to diagnose anything physical because they've written you off as a hypochondriac. So yeah, I'd say it's anything but neglecting the psychological when they seem to be bent on attributing your non-obvious illness to psychology.By this, do you mean that they will refer everybody to psychology when they inevitably find nothing physically wrong?