[Mayday]

Here's a good PDF from the NHS in the UK: http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sitesplus/documents/866/Stellate%20Ganglion%20Block.pdf

Worst side effect by far is permanent nerve damage (but it's very rare).

Here are another two links; http://www.anaesthesiauk.com/Documents/256%20Stellate%20Ganglion%20Block.pdf

https://www.londonpainclinic.com/complex-regional-pain-syndrome/patient-information-sheet-stellate-ganglion-block/

I'm feeling just a little bit down today.
But that can be explained by bad sleeping include exiting from the SGB. Let's see what the next days bring me..

 

[Kdawg]

Better health. You mentioned curing your DP with Magnesum , b6 and zinc. Can you tell me what kind of dosages you took?

Also Canadian here. Sent my passport renewal in. Spoke with Lipovs office. Will be flying in beginning of March to give this a shot

 

[whatsgoingonwithmybrain]

I achieved COMPLETE remission of both dp/dr and anxiety, with a supplement containing magnesium, zinc and vitamin b6.

BetterHealth, very interesting that those supplements helped you, are you still taking them, they are very much relevant to a blood disorder known as "Pyroluria" which I was confirmed as having.. Maybe there is a connection between DP/DR, and this condition. I wrote about it on my blog here if interested:

http://healthvibed.com/my-ongoing-pyroluria-story-until-success/

Please keep us posted here on your progress mate!

 

[99880]

I agree. I wish they hadn't removed their content and abruptly left the forum. People need to know of the potential risks involved in this procedure.

From what we know, someone had a Stellate Ganglion Block done at C6, C3, and C7. They had an adverse reaction after the injection at C7 in which they started feeling really unwell which lasted weeks. They reported feeling numb to their body and senses and having difficulty holding their right arm up. We don't know more as they have left the forum.

Thank you for trying to clarify some of my concerns. It seems they had good reason to leave the forum. Let's hope they are doing ok and are able to receive support elsewhere. If the information was posted without their consent, it's not up for discussion until informed otherwise.

There is a reason my query was directed at a specific individual, so that issue remains unresolved.

We also know that he had 65% improvement after C3 & C6 SGB.
Someone posted his private mail in this topic what put him in troubles about his privacy. That's why he deleted.

A breach of privacy on this thread is also a serious matter, let's hope it has been dealt with. It's sad to learn that there is a member of this forum who does not respect the privacy of other members.

 

[BetterHealth23]

BetterHealth, very interesting that those supplements helped you, are you still taking them, they are very much relevant to a blood disorder known as "Pyroluria" which I was confirmed as having.. Maybe there is a connection between DP/DR, and this condition. I wrote about it on my blog here if interested:

http://healthvibed.com/my-ongoing-pyroluria-story-until-success/

Please keep us posted here on your progress mate!

That's true, zinc and vitamin b6 are recommended for those with Pyroluria. However, I tested negative for Pyroluria after doing a urine sample for biolabs. That was after stopping zinc and vitamin b6 for many months and only using magnesium citrate. When it comes to a healthy stress response, a magnesium deficiency can be crippling. I think for me personally, it made a world of difference. I struggle to think what would have become of me without finding magnesium.

2nd day since the SGB and still feeling the lowered anxiety and agitation.

 

[BetterHealth23]

Better health. You mentioned curing your DP with Magnesum , b6 and zinc. Can you tell me what kind of dosages you took?

Also Canadian here. Sent my passport renewal in. Spoke with Lipovs office. Will be flying in beginning of March to give this a shot

900mg of magnesium citrate, 60mg of zinc and approx 18mg b6 for 4 days and my DP/DR was completely gone. I then dropped my dosage in half and stayed using this for a good 3-4 years. Then I switched to just a magnesium citrate supplement at 500mg a day; which has the same effect.

 

[Silentless]

I honestly dont believe this can cure DP

 

[Kdawg]

Completely off topic and don't want to derail the conversation from the SGB.

I finally after 12 years am trying to beat this. Got me some supplements, got a couple cognitive behavioural therapy books an started to see a Psychologist. Now something I have noticed so far on my journey is that upon waking my DP/DR is 10x worse.

Also something I have known for years since I got weed induced DP is that I don't dream, or at least don't remember my dreams. I think I may have 3-5 dreams in 12 years that I remember upon waking.

I googled and didn't find much, a few study suggesting people with PTSD and dissociative disorders will sometimes not actually sleep without knowing it. They will have crazy anxiety and think they are asleep but are not in their half awake brain. I wonder if there is something out there to stop dreams Lol! Or to remain calm when I sleep to see if it starts helping.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dream-catcher/201311/sleep-dreams-and-dissociation%3famp

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2725210/

 

[BetterHealth23]

I honestly dont believe this can cure DP

Stellate ganglion block or the supplements I noted above?

Either way, it's not really about what you believe, it's about what works for each person. This forum is a great platform to share what has helped one person and what MAY help another. I can list off lots of things that haven't helped me in the slightest or in fact have made me worse off in some way or another.

Each persons cause of DP will be different and way beyond that we all have different genes, different nutrient deficiencies and different lifestyles. Some people smoke weed and get DP, some people just wake up with it one day. If you google magnesium cured my DP (I just did by the way), you'll find several mentions of magnesium curing DP/anxiety.

In regards to SGB, there are already several members of this forum who found it helped there symptoms in one way or another (even if it wasn't a total cure).

Not sure on the basis of your comment, or to whom you were responding, but making comments like that with no justification, no scientific studies, no mention of personal experience; isn't very conducive to helping people on this forum.

Of course, you're more than welcome to your opinion and/or belief, but in the context of this forum; do you really need to share opinions or beliefs such as the one above?

 

[Mayday]

No depressed feelings after drinking beers & wine in the morning.
That didn't happened in 30 years.
I'm now 4 days after the SGB C6.
DP is still the boss in my mind and body.

 

[Broken]

I won't be pursuing this at the moment for financial reasons and also not enough feedback regarding its efficacy for DPD. But this quote is interesting and may provide a much cheaper route for those interested:

"Blunt needling of the stellate ganglion with an acupuncture needle is used in Traditional Chinese Medicine to decrease sympathetically mediated symptoms as well"

I don't know whether this is commonly done or not but would be interesting to find out. I'm pessimistic about this being a 'cure' but more of a piece of the puzzle

 

[PermanentBrainFart]

No depressed feelings after drinking beers & wine in the morning.
That didn't happened in 30 years.
I'm now 4 days after the SGB C6.
DP is still the boss in my mind and body.

How are you doing now bro?

 

[Mayday]

No effect from the SGB on the C6 location against dp/dr.
I hope the end of the week the SGB on C3 location will do something.

 

[BetterHealth23]

Hi all,

I have given it a full 2 weeks post SGB, before talking in more detail about my experience. So what happened:

For roughly 4 days I felt great. My levels of anxiety and tension were much reduced and I felt very optimistic about the future. I wouldn't describe myself as depressed, but I felt more upbeat and positive.

After 4 days, something felt very wrong. I literally had a whole day of feeling extremely anxious, and I was extremely close to having a full blown panic attack while completing grocery shopping. My nervous system was so jacked up. I was literally getting anxiety over anything (exactly the same experience of while I had a huge panic attack on cannabis). I just felt like something about me or the world was wrong and was inches from descending into total panic. I was very fortunate to somehow stay calm during this time and not start believing the SGB had permanently screwed me over.

I used a combination ot mindfulness and deep breathing exercises to help calm me down and thankfully, I am now feeling 100% back to normal (pre SGB). Was it definitely the SGB? Hard to say, but I've not felt that anxious in nearly 6 years, so it's too big a coincidence for me. Will I get another SGB? No, it's not worth the risk of going through that again, even if I can't be certain it was related to the SGB. Do I advise other people not to get a SHB? Not necessarily, it may work fantastic for you. But please use all available information on this thread and make an educated decision.

 

[Mayday]

1 Hour ago I received the SGB shots C3 & C6 at the same time. Also with 4 minutes pulse in it.
I will update later if it do something for me.

 

[Kdawg]

Yes please do update!

 

[thanksforbeingalive]

Hi guys

I got depersonalization disorder in summer 2011 when I was 14 years old. I'm 22 now. It was brought on by an anxiety attack after I smoked weed.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27612365

In this study 30 active military service members with combat-related PTSD were offered a stellate ganglion block as part of their treatment program. Patients reported greatest improvement in the first week after SGB for the following symptoms:

irritability or angry outbursts
difficulty concentrating
sleep disturbance

2 to 4 months later, patients reported greatest improvement in the following:

feeling distant or cut off
feeling emotionally numb
irritability or angry outbursts
difficulty concentrating

It is hypothesized that trauma leads to an increase in nerve growth factor in the stellate ganglion. This in turn leads to a sprouting of sympathetic nerves, which increases the production of a number of neurotransmitters, including adrenaline and norepinephrine, which makes people anxious. Stellate ganglion block leads to a reduction in nerve growth factor and sprouting of sympathetic nerves, which helps reverse trauma/anxiety symptoms.

Here is the mechanism explainted in detail:

http://assets.cureus.com/uploads/poster/file/717/PTSD_SGB_Poster.pdf

Here is some other stuff about stellate ganglion block and PTSD:

You got it when you was 14 or 21?

 

[Ray46]

You got it when you was 14 or 21?

When I was 14.

 

[thanksforbeingalive]

When I was 14.

I am a little bit confused.....

Hi guys, here's my story!

Sorry for my English I'm from Switzerland

I got depersonalization disorder when I was around 20 I'm 21 now. It was brought on by an anxiety attack after I smoked weed.
I have spent 8 month living with it. It was the most awful terrifying experience I have ever encounted. I was convinced I was losing my mind, slipping away into an irreversible insanity. I had forgetfulness, memory problems, poor concentration, permanent brain fog and emotional numbness. The only feeling I had was anxiety...

 

[Mayday]

Hi all

2 days after the SGB shots I feel no improvement about depersonalization.
I don't know if it's possible that the results is comming later?
Let's see what happens next days.
But no immediately improvement for me:-(