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I'm interested in this. I hope to hear from people who try it.

 

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Saw my GP today, & he has refered me to my local hospital to see a pain specialist for an SBG. The referal was for neck pain, which I have actually got. I'm gonna contact them on Friday for an appointment (he asked me to hold off until then as he wants to write them a letter). Let's see where this leads me.

Nice, I'm excited to hear how things go for you.

 

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I just got home from Chicago from having the SGB done by Dr. Lipov and within 30 minutes of the 2nd injection I noticed a change in my level of Derealization. Everything started looking sharper and more real. I also felt like a part of me that has been gone for a long time is waking up. The next day (yesterday) everything looked *almost* real and it felt like the DR was going to go away at any second. It kept coming and going through the day. My vision would switch between the dull/flat Dr vision and things looking real. It also feels like my experience of reality is changing and like a part of me that has been asleep a long time is waking up. I am not fully in reality yet but I just had the injections 2 days ago and I feel like this is very promising.

I had 2 injections, one at c6, which did absolutely nothing, and one at c3, which started working within 5 minutes. I will come back and write a full post on my experience in the next few days.

That's incredible!

 

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I just called Dr Lipovs office and they said that sgb will cost 2000 dollars starting from january...

Damn

 

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To anyone:

I can do a SGB block in a local clinic.
Not for ptsd. But against pain.
Is that the same as lipov does?
Or does lipov has a special protocol?

I am wondering the same, as I have called a local doctor who does it and it is covered under my insurance, but I need a referral from my primary doctor. I am also wondering if I should ask for the referral for PTSD or for pain.

 

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I guess SGB don't help as I read it.
There are also no more updates from people here that it's getting better with them.
I'm going to cancel my appointment. Maybe later in the year. We'll see.

Can't hurt to try it

 

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Can hurt your bank balance though! Especially if you're poor. I've decided against it for now.

It's covered by his insurance. He seemed interested until someone posted a negative article about it. Truth is we won't know til we try.

 

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I just cancelled my payed appointment.
For the local clinic which probably is covered by my insurance i have to contact them. I'm not sure yet.

It's not only the article.
It's more that there is not updates comming from members here on the forum who already did the SGB. How are they? Maybe worse then ever? Same ? Better?....

More than likely people don't think to come back and post their progress after having already posted a time or two.

Personally I am interested in doing it. I think I will see if I can get the referral from my doctor and try to do it under my insurance. Probably won't happen til after the new year though, as I'm busy.

Like Autonomic Space Monkey said, it would be steep to do in Chicago for $2000 + flight + hotel for something that may or may not work.

Wish we could get a group of say 10+ people from here to try it and compare results.

 

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I've reread this entire thread and thought I'd make a small thread update:

So far seven people from this thread have had the Stellate Ganglion Block done. Some have only had one injection at C6, while others have had C6 + C3 which seems to be the favored route.

Two people have reported significant improvement, notable both of those members have said they are also diagnosed with PTSD or C-PTSD.

One member reported some initial improvement, but said it wasn't the miracle cure they were hoping for.

One member reported no initial improvement but as time went on reported some improvement.

Three members have reported minimal to no improvement.

This isn't conclusive however as not all members have been back to update their progress with time.

 

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who is planning to fake a chronic pain issue to get an SGB from an anaesthesiologist?

I thought about doing that but someone in this thread mentioned that they typically inject less fluid for pain than what Dr. Lipov does in Chicago. That could be a factor to consider.

 

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Ok I didn't know that. How much does Lipov use? I read somewhere for the regular SGB they use 0,7 ml lidocaïne 1%.

Quotes from page 20 of this thread:

He injects 7.cl into C6 as Lipov does. C6 is close to C7 and as others have written there isn´t room for an injection into C7 after that. Lipov have said that they don´t do that for that reason to a patient in this tread. All trails with SGB for PTSD is C6 only. Lipov do give an injection if people don´t respond to C6 after 30-45.min into C3. C3 is higher up and there is room for a blocked there. The combination of C6 and C3 is called "The Chicago Bloc" by some.

I wonder how many .cl Dr Lipov injects into C3?

He properly gives the amount that there is room for. C6 is the largest of the ganglia and C3 is half that size. 2-3.cl ?

Is lidocaine what is in the actual injection?

 

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Ray46 are you still recovered?

 

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Why is the delusionaloptimist a deleted member?

delusionaloptimist requested to have their account deleted.

 

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Did things get better? From what I can gather, a lot of posts have been edited or deleted. That is a serious cause for concern when discussing the potential adverse effects of an experimental treatment.

I agree. I wish they hadn't removed their content and abruptly left the forum. People need to know of the potential risks involved in this procedure.

From what we know, someone had a Stellate Ganglion Block done at C6, C3, and C7. They had an adverse reaction after the injection at C7 in which they started feeling really unwell which lasted weeks. They reported feeling numb to their body and senses and having difficulty holding their right arm up. We don't know more as they have left the forum.

 

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To save me reading through all 47 pages of this thread, does anyone know how many people on here with DP have tried this and what the success rates were? Cheers

11 people have reported having it done in this thread. About 7 people reported having no real improvement. Some have reported short term benefits. I don't think anyone has actually reported lasting long term improvement or being 100% cured.