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Thanks for this story. Interesting.
I would like to try the shots.
Can someone help me in the right direction when you live in the Netherlands?

 

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No one?
Has someone did the SGB in their local hospital? Or is the SGB not working at all?

 

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Has anyone had success from it being administered in the UK? Is this still holding up as a serious treatment? Thanks.

I've had mail contact yesterday with Dr. Lipov.
He said 50% depersonalization cured from it.

 

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50%? i'd love some data on that, sounds too good to be true, but i'm an optimist so yeah, still on my todo list!

This was his answer exactly:

Hi

Basically patients fly in and we treat them in Chicago

Cost is 1500$

This approach works best on Ptsd

Hypervigelance sleep disorder 85%

Depersonalization 50%

Yours

Sent from my iPhone

Eugene Lipov MD

Chief Science Officer GPTSIF

Bringing REAL Hope to people with PTSI

 

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Not according to those that have had it done in this thread. Only the OP recovered, so far nobody else has.

How many did toke the shot then? Do there is a realistic overview already then? Not from 3 persons I guess...

Maybe Lipov had more patients then we know. I'm gonna ask him. Let you know later.

 

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Had the last 3 shots not much difference unfortunately

Then I rest my case i guess.
We need some more help from the medical world. I don't care about the money or shots in my neck. It's not enough anymore now

 

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I'm going for final sgb shots tomorrow. Did come hugely into reality today but was such a fucking scary experience having been 24\7 fp for 17 years...

So it helped you?
How many times do you have to go totally?
I wish I lived closer to Chicago )-:

 

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To anyone;

How many shots do you need totally?
And in how many days?
I have to travel from Europe to Chicago for this. Hope someone can give me details of the total treatment.

 

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And remember that in Bristol they'll only do C3, but will do C6 at a later date & for an extra £595! Might be cheaper & more effective to go to Lipov.

Lipov is only 1 consult?
And in Bristol is 2 consults?

And what is the cost of the C3 in Bristol?

€?? And €595

 

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Consultation in Bristol is £295, & C3 is £895. C6 is an extra £595, but they usually do it at a later date (you could ask them to do it on the same day).

Lipov € 1277
Bristol spa € 2.011,95

Bristol is nearby...
Phew

 

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When I saw Dr. Lipov for the procedure he told me that the two injections at c6 and c3 need to be done within 2 hours of each other for the treatment to be effective.

So having it done two separate times would not end up giving you the results you want. Also, Dr. Lipov does not charge a consultation fee. He charges $900 us dollars for the first injection and will do the 2nd for free the same day. The surgery center fee is $390 and the anesthesia fee is $210. So all together you pay $1500. Dr. Lipov requires you pay the $900 the week before the treatment and then you pay the other two fees at the surgery center the day of your treatment.

Kishna do also c3 and C6 in one day. For £1270

 

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Lipov is cheaper. But then we need to factor in travel & lodging if coming from a long way away.

Excactly. And it is a little bit different. I'm gonna post their reply below what the difference is. UK is closer for me. But traveling to USA is more expensive for me...

 

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The reply from Kishna;

The treatment will all be done in one setting: consultation, followed by injection at the 2 levels. We follow the same protocol as described by Dr. Lipov in his publications. The only difference is that Dr. Krishna performs the injection under real-time ultrasound guidance, rather than x-ray guidance used by Dr. Lipov. Ultrasound makes the injection much more accurate as you can see the stellate ganglion as well as all the surrounding tissues, which are not visible under Xray.

If Dr. Lipov has provided you his protocol in detail please forward it to us and we can check this out with Dr, Krishna. For your reassurance Dr. Krishna sees patients from all over the Uk and abroad.

Please let us know if you have any further queries.

 

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Oh you go Eugine, you rape them there wallets! Two grand for a couple of injections? FUCK YOU!!!

Disappointed...
Only for rich people.
Most people can't work.
Bad news

 

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Interesting arcticle in the Daily Mail about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4597186/US-Army-invests-2million-injection-beat-PTSD.html

Patients pay just under $2 for a dose of SGB.

Huh?
Okay

 

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He actually only charges $900 to do the procedure. It is the surgery center fee and the anesthesia fee that cost more. The surgery center was almost $400 and the anesthesia fee was over $200.

How is it with your depersonalization?
Is it going better?
Ad were the SGB shots painful?

 

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To anyone:

I can do a SGB block in a local clinic.
Not for ptsd. But against pain.
Is that the same as lipov does?
Or does lipov has a special protocol?

 

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I am wondering the same, as I have called a local doctor who does it and it is covered under my insurance, but I need a referral from my primary doctor. I am also wondering if I should ask for the referral for PTSD or for pain.

Me 2. I can get under my insurance. But I have to know, is it the same?
Hope someone can answer this question

 

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http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/ptsd-trauma-and-stressor-related/stellate-ganglion-block-fails-as-possible-ptsd-treatment/article/406455/
I found this article on the Psychiatry Advisor.

I guess SGB don't help as I read it.
There are also no more updates from people here that it's getting better with them.
I'm going to cancel my appointment. Maybe later in the year. We'll see.