[person3]

When I'm in a crisis, as I may or may not be right now, I'm dependent on other people to help me out and I appreciate it.

But when they tell me about the stuff going on in their lives, I act interested but the truth is I can barely give a fuck.

Mabye because I'm in a high stress time I don't know.

But it's really hard for me to care...at all. about others tragedies.

Like, I couldn't care less when the London bombing happened. I was too busy hating myself for one thing or another. The idea that terrorists killed 50 people meant jack shit to me.

I wonder why this is? I wish sometimes i could care more, if at least to not look like an idiot nodding "hmm yeah" when hearing of some horrible tragedy.

 

[person3]

i partially answered it...

i hate myself because i don't live up to the image of me i have

and i'm busy working on it

and i HAVE to have that image

because i don't want people to see ME

I don't like ME

but there is no such thing as what we see on TV we're all a bunch of unlikeable or really likeable MEs

And if i let go of working on my superficial self instead of constantly monitoring it i would find my "real self"

and then focus on bombings.

thanx again for posting that narcissism link xeper

 

[dakotajo]

Im exhausted.

 

[bright23]

"Like, I couldn't care less when the London bombing happened. I was too busy hating myself for one thing or another. The idea that terrorists killed 50 people meant jack sh*t to me."

Yeah, I remember this. I was pretty offended by your reply to a post I made about sending my condolences to our friends in the U.K. You response was something kind of smarty sounding along the lines of "HAHAHA... oh yes but of course I care about all the little children."

But I let it go... we all grieve in our own special way I suppose. Sometimes it can take us a few weeks to let things sink in.

The suicide bombings in Bagdad make me completely ill. Real bodies blasted apart every day. People picking parts of their relatives out of trees. Every day. But you know what, I just had a pint of caramel Haadgen Daaz a few minutes ago. The whole thing. Totally creamy, melting in the NYC heat as I'm eating it. Yumm.

You know what I mean?

Take it all in. Whatever life offers us. Its all food for our growth.

 

[Scattered]

The people who were blasted into little pieces learned from their suffering.

 

[Sojourner]

"This does not however mean that suffering in the psychological sense is not marked by a specific "activity". This is in fact that multiple and subjectively differentiated "activity" of pain, sadness, disappointment, discouragement or even despair, according to the intensity of the suffering subject and his or her specific sensitivity. In the midst of what constitutes the psychological form of suffering there is always an experience of evil, which causes the individual to suffer.

Thus the reality of suffering prompts the question about the essence of evil: what is evil?

This questions seems, in a certain sense, inseparable from the theme of suffering. The Christian response to it is different, for example, from the one given by certain cultural and religious traditions which hold that existence is an evil from which one needs to be liberated. Christianity proclaims the essential good of existence and the good of that which exists, acknowledges the goodness of the Creator and proclaims the good of creatures. Man suffers on account of evil, which is a certain lack, limitation or distortion of good. We could say that man suffers because of a good in which he does not share, from which in a certain sense he is cut off, or of which he has deprived himself. He particularly suffers when he a ought"?in the normal order of things?to have a share in this good and does not have it."

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_ ... is_en.html

 

[bright23]

"The people who were blasted into little pieces learned from their suffering."

Please elaborate.

 

[bright23]

"In the midst of what constitutes the psychological form of suffering there is always an experience of evil, which causes the individual to suffer."

Please elaborate.

 

[Sojourner]

"Thus the reality of suffering prompts the question about the essence of evil: what is evil?

This questions seems, in a certain sense, inseparable from the theme of suffering. The Christian response to it is different, for example, from the one given by certain cultural and religious traditions which hold that existence is an evil from which one needs to be liberated. Christianity proclaims the essential good of existence and the good of that which exists, acknowledges the goodness of the Creator and proclaims the good of creatures. Man suffers on account of evil, which is a certain lack, limitation or distortion of good. We could say that man suffers because of a good in which he does not share, from which in a certain sense he is cut off, or of which he has deprived himself. He particularly suffers when he a ought"?in the normal order of things?to have a share in this good and does not have it."

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_ ... is_en.html

 

[bright23]

That's smart-alecky. You're implying the answer is already here and I'm too "dim" to see it no?

Have a good night Sojourner. Sweet dreams.

 

[Phill]

Person 3, the fact that you wish you could care more means that the REAL
you really does care. I heard the real you in your post and i really hope you find the real you again.

 

[Martinelv]

I wallow in Scattered's delicious cynicism. I urge you all to do the same - it keeps you healthy. Sometimes I think (and I'm not joking) that it was my relentless cynicism that saved me from long-term chronic DR/DP, I really do. My attitude and approach to DR/DP was with the same narcacicicisticic selfishness as my approach to most other things. I was furious at it and it scuttled away after a while. How dare it stop me wringing whatever happyness I could squeeze out of life!

I'm not saying that being consumed with anger is a totally healthy way to live, :lol: , but it helps from time to time. We just pay for it in other ways.

Sojourner - please tell me, what the hell are you talking about ? I know I'm thick as pig shit, but you replies never seem to make any sense. The phrase 'going off a tangent' seems to been invented for you !! In the nicest possible way of course. You must remember that not everyone believes in the same imaginary friend as you do. And besides, I'm the only one on this forum who is given the lattitude of falling in love with his own voice. So back off mate...

Person3 - there's nothing wrong with being too busy hating yourself not to pretend that you give a s**t about anything else. Suffering is relative. I rarely give a damn about anyone else outside my immediate sphere of influence. Makes us bad people ? I don't think so. It's just life. If I had the time or inclination to shed tears over every shitty thing happening on this planet, I wouldn't have time to breath. If I were honest, I feel more a lot more sadness and anger over cruelty to animals than I do to people.

Pretending to give a shit is worse than apathy. :wink:

 

[gem]

person3, you say you do not seem to care, you listen but you just do not care. Sometimes when we are in a high state of anxiety and dp/dr are emtions can become frozen. It does not mean that you truly do not care what it means that for now you just cannot feel the impact of what is going on around you because your mind is exhausted from the pain you are in. I believe you do care, you would not have posted asking why do I feel like I do not care? By posting means that you are upset inside because you do not feel. Dp/dr can block true feelings. I think also that when we hear such awful things that happen in this world it can unbearable to just hear them.

gem.

 

[person3]

"HAHAHA... oh yes but of course I care about all the little children."

what?

bright23, where did i say that? I don't know what the hell you're talking about! I deliberately avoided the London threads for the most part for fear of saying something "not warm enough"...

sorry if this is a misunderstanding, but unless i had a total lapse of reason i don't think i would ever come out and say something like that as a direct response to "we should send our condolences". i just try to stay out of it altogether.

thanks for the response tho

 

[Da'Burgh]

person3,

Sometimes it does seem as though in a state like this, it's common that people have hardly any or no sympathy at all because, like you said, they are too worried about themselves. This isn't something you should accept and it is something you can change with time. That is if you want that.

 

[bright23]

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"Try and live life to it's fullest."

Amen brother.
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soiledangel
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wish I could

I guess its having an 'inner terrorist' (yes I have approached 'her' in therapy)is what can make it so hard, at least one of the things, anyway...

(living in London and trying to dissociate, but its not working so far Sad )

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bright23
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Feel at a loss about todays events, it looks really grim in the "real world" presently.

My thoughts are with our friends in the U.K. Peace.

person3
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hahaha

good heart...

*ahem*

I mean of course I love the little children! And the trees!

 

[person3]

oh crap i didn't mean it like THAT!

i was joking about how ben said we had good hearts and I was all like "suuure i have a good heart" (implying i had a bad heart) and then pretending to cover it up with "oh i mean i love children!"

stupid joke

nothing to do with the bombing...just w/ben's comment about how we're good hearted

heh

 

[Milan]

Marty wrote:

Sojourner - please tell me, what the hell are you talking about ? I know I'm thick as pig sh*t, but you replies never seem to make any sense.

Thank Christ, I thought I was the only one that didn't get sojourner's posts. No offence sojourner but sometimes I just don't get what your trying to say.

I'm off to join the 'Thick as Pig Sh*t' party.

P3 no need worry. High anxiety always mutes your emotions and makes you self centred. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately.

 

[bright23]

Good to know, Person 3. It was an emotional day for sure, makes for being prone to misunderstanding, and that's how I took it.

 

[Sojourner]

You mean my "tool" comment?

I was referring to the poster's brain, not the other one. :lol: