[fingertingle]

I feel like I'm in a Stanley Kubrick film.
Or maybe that movie Elephant.

Do people really feel like they are in a Dali painting, or is this just something professionals say because they hear the word "surreal" and connect it with the whole movement?

One thing I'm wondering ....have you guys ever met someone with dp/dr in person? Is communication more comfortable? I know I never have, but my best friend has mild symptoms of detachment associated with her depression and I feel much more comfortable and sane around her.

I'm probably going to be posting a lot until I get over how relieving this community actually is.

 

[Martinelv]

No, not really. It's quite romantic to attribute DR/DP to something like Dali, but the experience, as I'm sure you know, if quite different. We 'feel' that our environment is strange, alien, bizarre, rather than actually see anything out of the ordinary. It's difficult to elucidate to anyone who hasn't experiened it.

 

[Guest]

I feel like I'm in a Stanley Kubrick film.
Or maybe that movie Elephant.
Do people really feel like they are in a Dali painting, or is this just something professionals say because they hear the word "surreal" and connect it with the whole movement?

I think it's indeed professionals who compare it to Dali paintings. When I feel derealized I don't see the environment differently. It just "feels" different.

One thing I'm wondering ....have you guys ever met someone with dp/dr in person? Is communication more comfortable? I know I never have, but my best friend has mild symptoms of detachment associated with her depression and I feel much more comfortable and sane around her.

I don't think many people get a DP/DR diagnosis from doctors. Mostly they say it's depression or anxiety disorders. But I know a few close friends who have similar ideas and feelings of detachments. I also feel more comfortable with them then anyone else. It's like were on the same psychological level. It makes me very unsure if DP/DR really is a disease.

 

[widescreened]

Yes,there is a cognative blitch that slants my world view but shapes arent distorted.Its more of an eternal search for meaning in things,an obsession that has caused a sheet of ice to solidify as cataracts over my eyes and trap me.but im not glorifying this mindset.None of us were born as frustrated artists or martyrs.We were born with perfect cognation and our goal should be to return to this situation.
And yes, the company of others with similar problems is good to a point,providing we dont seek out each others company the way alcoholics find each other in a bar,so as to feel and appear normal,delusionally of course.

 

[falling_free]

My relationship to my enviroment is like I have produce overlays in my mind on what is there so for example where I to look at external objets I may warp and bend them in my inner mind eithout neccersirilly having the hallincation of the external enviroment changing, rather like being stuck in a dreamscape in reailty, but just on that border of being in a waking dream/nightmare. I also have a vast inner network of internal worlds which my mind has created to escape from my mind when under drug induced hazed blah blah

Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

- hmm some cliche matrix quotes :roll:

Bascially I think im trying to escape from 'reality' and my own mind (which is poorly defined at this point and dualistic) hence the detachment from certain aspects of my self which would be in my shadow region blah de blah etc

just chasing my own tail.

Ive never met another dper though I have a good friend who has suffered from panic attacks and some anixty as a result of weed though he is quite fine now. We often had many drunken talks about how reality may be a videogame and he has some existeinital issues regardign reality, like for exmple he always talks about how he is uncertain of wherver external reality exsists and that using a powerful enough computer the world could be generated as a virtual world, and he often wondered if the extrenal was a collection of grathics with us as the game charecers.

 

[peacedove]

One thing I'm wondering ....have you guys ever met someone with dp/dr in person? Is communication more comfortable? I know I never have, but my best friend has mild symptoms of detachment associated with her depression and I feel much more comfortable and sane around her

I've never met anyone with DP in person, that I know of, but I certainly would like to. I do feel more comfortable around other people with mental problems though.

 

[Tom Servo]

Seems more like an Edward Hopper painting to me; everything looks the same, but it seems weird and creepy in a way that's impossible to describe. Maybe they used Dali's name because Hopper isn't famous enough.

 

[Guest]

You nailed it, Tom. The "they" is me, lol...I said it was like a "Salvador Dali" painting in my brochure, but I did choose him because he is well known. Hopper is much better as a "feeling" or "mood" to the unreality.

Although at times, I did feel like things/objects were "bleeding" into each other, not really hallucinating but the feeling that there were no real boundaries between things, or between my body and the world. The image that hits it perfectly for me is like a box of melted crayons.

 

[Tom Servo]

Seriously? Man, if there were one of those "emoticons" for spiking the ball, I'd put it in here.

Well, at least we don't feel like we're in a Hieronymous Bosch painting. As bad as this is, I think that'd be worse.

 

[fingertingle]

Oh God, yeah.

 

[agentcooper]

i feel like i'm in a david lynch movie...everything looks the same but it is sooo much creepier.

tom servo, you hit in on the head in your pm...we are living in the black lodge.

 

[Tom Servo]

tom servo, you hit in on the head in your pm...we are living in the black lodge.

At least the coffee is (usually) better.

 

[Dreamer]

Oh, I miss Twin Peaks. And "Eraserhead" -- saw it once, never again. All of his stuff, amazing really, but scary as Hell. :shock:

This topic is fascinating, and as usual I'm trying to keep myself awake and I'm having a sneezing fit.

Firstly, I've met many people w/DP, from this very DP Board. We're similar and we're different and we all seem to "look normal" which really pisses me off, LOL.

That aside, I've always used David Hockney's photo collages as a description of perceptual distortion and cognitive distortion I experience w/DR in particular. I have DP too, but, this is again an "as if" experience, it's nearly impossible to articulate....

Hope the link works.... this is David Hockney's "Pearblossom Highway" ...

http://www.dreamchild.net/hockney.html

This conveys the following, though I agree that Edward Hopper actually captures the "eerie glow" of things or rather, "the light isn't right". I literally seem to see things with a filter that dims things down, but also distorts how things look. They are flat. They feel pressed up against my face. They are literally "as if" they are merely the contents of my head projected onto a screen in front of me.

I don't know how many analogies/metaphors I've used for this.

The Hockney collages though also convey a cognitive problem. It would be on the lines of dyslexia though, which is an input processing problem I suppose. When I get too much input, too much stimuli, things seem to "fragment" ... or AS IF, it's always AS IF, things fragment... hence the mishmash of Hockney's collages. Some of people's faces are damned scary.

I have had trouble as a secretary, say typing a simple envelope. Suddenly I "disappear" ... the whole BAD DP/DR wave -- not the chronic shit (if you'll forgive me). During that time I look at the letters I'm typing and I can't seem to get the "complete picture". It's difficult to "see" what I'm typing, though I CAN see it, it is like pulling teeth to complete the task.

I could go on for an eternity with this.

I am convinced, when I experience these perceptual shifts that there is a neurological glitch. What sends me there is anxiety, knee-jerk, programmed, conditioned, predisposition to anxiety. I really "skip" the anxiety part and go straight to the DP/DR. As a young girl/woman, the anxiety generally came first and the DP/DR escalated. Then the DP/DR "took over" FOR the anxiety, though I am overall a terribly anxious person all the time.

Hence chronic DP/DR, now at a bearable level? Bearable said with frustration.

Best,
D

 

[agentcooper]

that is such a neat photo, dreamer! i love it soooo much! thanks for introducing me to that artist. it also scared the crap out of me.