Thanks Bat, I am just getting extreme feelings of disconnection and emptiness all the time and I just want to be back through the other side, not endless ruminating on this state. This was a stupid thread to start, but it was just how I was feeling at the time, or not feeling, its like I can't feel. I have to fight back and try and change it, starting now, I have decided. (I haven't done very much with my life except messed it up and caused a lot of pain and worry for a lot of people). But thanks for your support Bat, I hope this state changes soon, I'm going to try and make it change with more effort, I have just given in to it, that is what I see, I have just given into it. Sarah x