[Psyborg]

hi

I just wanted to share with you that I am about 70% or so healed . lately I did a blood test and an electrocardiography . my doc is not much older than me and we are like buddies a bit lol and he always takes time for his patients . especially for me since I have health anxiety. the blood test showed my sugar and fat values are fine . the ecd showed my heart rythm etc. everything is fine but my resting heart rate is very high . my doc and me settled that I will start light cardio training again and aim to become fit again . in 3 months or so if the heart rate is still too high we might do something with medication . I think part of the reason for my heart rate being so high is that I am always tensed and nervous . I was also a little nervous when the test was done .

I also want to lose weight and become my fit self again . when I am slim again and trained I hope my heart rate will become normal again

since I have high health anxiety having done these tests have made my anxiety go down dramatically .

I also stopped taking effexor 5 weeks ago . I only took 2 -3 times sulpiride since then but since 2 weeks or so I have not taken ANYTHING . which is weird because I feel somewhat okay . I only am a little nervous and a little anxious at times . the effexor made me somehow not feel like myself and made my dp a litle worse thats why I asked my psychiatrist to stop . I am thinking about asking my psychiatrist for an anti anxiety medication I can take on some days when needed

this forum also helped me . I talked to member : "kylekatarn" often and asked him a lot of stuff . he took his time and gave me hope and courage . thanks a lot bro

I think if you want to lower your dp/dr you should definitely lower your anxiety in any way possible . if you for example also have health anxiety and think your heart might have problems or whatever ....go to the doc . face with your fears . read books or whatever . lower your anxiety . I think when I start working out it will help too

man I hope I am not enjoying this right now for nothing . I hope the worst time is behind me now . trust me I know we all suffer but the way I suffered the last 4 years especially 2018 ....man ....it was ridiculous

 

[Speedy69]

Working out is a number one must. It doesn’t have to be weight training but definitely cardio. The best way to do it if at all possible is do cardio towards the evening a few hrs before bed. I usually do all my workouts 4 hrs before bed. Getting rid of the cortisol in the body from the heightened anxiety states does wonders. Your basically getting rid of all excess negative anxious energy from your body. Afterwards I always suggest taking bubble baths to relax while reading a book or listening to for example coffee house radio on Pandora. If your doctor prescribes you anti anxiety medication I would suggest Klonopin. The effects are longer lasting but not as strong as xanax or as quick as xanax. Klonopin on a low dose of .5mg would help me stay asleep at night when I decided I felt like I needed one. I wouldn’t suggest taking them every day because of withdrawals even tho such a low dose may not have that effect on you but an alternative is sleepy time tea. To me it’s disgusting but if you hold you nose and just down it it really does put me to sleep. I and right at 6’4 265lbs and it does that to me lol. Between working out in the evening....bubbles baths....and drinking sleepy time tea while relaxing to a movie or so at night.....u will see a difference in a few weeks. Probably won’t be over night but overall your anxiety will start to drop. At some point you may decide to do weight training which will give you goals to shoot for muscular wise. Definitely cardio. Running a mile or two a day even if you have to speed walk will be great, cycling even tho you would have to do that longer distance, swimming, speed rope combined with short sprints is great. Try to shoot for 1 hr. A day at least.

 

[Psyborg]

Working out is a number one must. It doesn't have to be weight training but definitely cardio. The best way to do it if at all possible is do cardio towards the evening a few hrs before bed. I usually do all my workouts 4 hrs before bed. Getting rid of the cortisol in the body from the heightened anxiety states does wonders. Your basically getting rid of all excess negative anxious energy from your body. Afterwards I always suggest taking bubble baths to relax while reading a book or listening to for example coffee house radio on Pandora. If your doctor prescribes you anti anxiety medication I would suggest Klonopin. The effects are longer lasting but not as strong as xanax or as quick as xanax. Klonopin on a low dose of .5mg would help me stay asleep at night when I decided I felt like I needed one. I wouldn't suggest taking them every day because of withdrawals even tho such a low dose may not have that effect on you but an alternative is sleepy time tea. To me it's disgusting but if you hold you nose and just down it it really does put me to sleep. I and right at 6'4 265lbs and it does that to me lol. Between working out in the evening....bubbles baths....and drinking sleepy time tea while relaxing to a movie or so at night.....u will see a difference in a few weeks. Probably won't be over night but overall your anxiety will start to drop. At some point you may decide to do weight training which will give you goals to shoot for muscular wise. Definitely cardio. Running a mile or two a day even if you have to speed walk will be great, cycling even tho you would have to do that longer distance, swimming, speed rope combined with short sprints is great. Try to shoot for 1 hr. A day at least.

I used to train a lot . I always trained in boxing and usually run/jog a lot . I will start running again tomorrow and once I can jog for 30 minutes straight I will go back to the boxing/mma gym

but when I work out late I cant sleep well lol

I doubt my doc will prescribe me Klonopin since it is a benzo . he didnt want to prescribe me ativan or xanax . I might try opipramol or something else .

what is sleepy time tea ? I live in germany . do you know the ingredients ?

 

[Speedy69]

That is strange. Usually a great workout a few hrs before bed helps. For me it always did. Mma is what I have done since I was 14. I am now 30. When I am not training I can feel anxiety and stress creeping in. It definitely helps me. Sleepy time tea main ingredients is Chamomile, spearmint, West Indian lemongrass, tilia flowers, blackberry leaves, orange blossoms, hawthorn berries, and rosebuds. that’s what’s on the packaging. You could possibly order it online if you need to. It has a picture of a bear on the front of the box.

 

[Psyborg]

That is strange. Usually a great workout a few hrs before bed helps. For me it always did. Mma is what I have done since I was 14. I am now 30. When I am not training I can feel anxiety and stress creeping in. It definitely helps me. Sleepy time tea main ingredients is Chamomile, spearmint, West Indian lemongrass, tilia flowers, blackberry leaves, orange blossoms, hawthorn berries, and rosebuds. that's what's on the packaging. You could possibly order it online if you need to. It has a picture of a bear on the front of the box.

I will try linden tea . I read some good stuff about it . but I found it through your help because when I googled for some things I read on the sleepy time tea I found linden tea

I hope I will benefit from it

btw. I am dreaming EVERY night ....always ....and I hate it . how can I get rid of dreams ? it doesnt matter if it is a good dream either I just dont want to dream anymore because I feel as if I can not rest in my mind . my mind is fully spinning through the day and when I sleep and dream the "action" continues but I dont want it . can anybody relate ? I fucking hate it

 

[Al_pk]

If I work out too late it can make me feel too pumped for proper shut eye, working out between 12 and 3 keeps me chill (more so than normal) all day

 

[Speedy69]

See for my schedule I am up at 6 every morning sometimes earlier for work. When I get off I normally have other things to do. When I’m finished with that I workout. Doing mma and weight training. Once I’m done and down with bubble bath or shower I’m exhausted. So I relax the remainder of the night which may be for 4 hrs and then I go to sleep. I try to be in bed by 10 pm just so I can get a minimum of 8 hrs of sleep. A lot of times all I need is 6. Any tea that offers help with sleeping may be beneficial to you. As far as dreams go...it could be your anxiety going on as you sleep. I know any time I was in heightened states of anxiety I would dream a lot. Usually every night. Nothing wrong with dreaming when you are relaxed but I do understand that dreaming when you are anxious can be bothersome. I think when your anxiety starts to drop more and you are able to workout getting rid of excess energy and you are truly tired at night...you won’t dream as much. It may take a little while but once your workout routine gets momentum I think you will see a drastic change.

 

[Al_pk]

Funny you mention dreams I also dream vividly every night and hate it, been like this for many months. I would love to just fall into that deep, dreamless slumber I used to get. I think it is something to do with the anxious mindset. The worst thing is I'm not normal in my dreams. I have DP in my dreams, endless nightmare

 

[Grindelwald]

Funny you mention dreams I also dream vividly every night and hate it, been like this for many months. I would love to just fall into that deep, dreamless slumber I used to get. I think it is something to do with the anxious mindset. The worst thing is I'm not normal in my dreams. I have DP in my dreams, endless nightmare

I used to hate vivid dreams too. I'd start questioning reality when I was awake.

 

[mana_war]

You can't not have dreams. Everyone had dreams. I think you just need to knock out so hard that you're not consciously aware at all when your dreaming but fast asleep. At the start I used to have the scariest dreams. Basically terrible dreams.... and not in a fun nightmare kinda way they were basically images of my own personal hell custom made for me and I'd wake up and feel the sheer anxiety of it all. A some point I because less aware of my dreams and I don't remember dreams anymore.

I think some of the times where I feel real again for a few seconds it's often when I'm sooo tired and I go to sleep under the covers...It's like your brain is too tired to keep up defenses and the dp slips a little bit. So working out before bed may be good in that way too.

I'm glad you're feeling better.
Onwards and upwards my friend!

Also is it me or is your face less depressed?

 

[Cali123]

I will try linden tea . I read some good stuff about it . but I found it through your help because when I googled for some things I read on the sleepy time tea I found linden tea

I hope I will benefit from it

btw. I am dreaming EVERY night ....always ....and I hate it . how can I get rid of dreams ? it doesnt matter if it is a good dream either I just dont want to dream anymore because I feel as if I can not rest in my mind . my mind is fully spinning through the day and when I sleep and dream the "action" continues but I dont want it . can anybody relate ? I fucking hate it

Okay I'm not the only one! I hate dreams too ???? b4 dp I barely had dreams, like once in a while or if I had sugar b4 bed. My dreams aren't scary, nor seem real, they seem long though but i understand about the "action" continues part.

 

[Cali123]

Btw, what do you mean by you’re 70%. I see a lot of ppl saying they’re a certain percentage but what does that mean

 

[Grindelwald]

You can't not have dreams. Everyone had dreams. I think you just need to knock out so hard that you're not consciously aware at all when your dreaming but fast asleep. At the start I used to have the scariest dreams. Basically terrible dreams.... and not in a fun nightmare kinda way they were basically images of my own personal hell custom made for me and I'd wake up and feel the sheer anxiety of it all. A some point I because less aware of my dreams and I don't remember dreams anymore.

I think some of the times where I feel real again for a few seconds it's often when I'm sooo tired and I go to sleep under the covers...It's like your brain is too tired to keep up defenses and the dp slips a little bit. So working out before bed may be good in that way too.

I'm glad you're feeling better.
Onwards and upwards my friend!

Also is it me or is your face less depressed?

Ironically the best way to kill dreams is to smoke weed. Of course that's out of the question for most people with DP.

 

[Phantasm]

No one really understands dreams or why we need to, but we do need to.

 

[Psyborg]

You can't not have dreams. Everyone had dreams. I think you just need to knock out so hard that you're not consciously aware at all when your dreaming but fast asleep. At the start I used to have the scariest dreams. Basically terrible dreams.... and not in a fun nightmare kinda way they were basically images of my own personal hell custom made for me and I'd wake up and feel the sheer anxiety of it all. A some point I because less aware of my dreams and I don't remember dreams anymore.

I think some of the times where I feel real again for a few seconds it's often when I'm sooo tired and I go to sleep under the covers...It's like your brain is too tired to keep up defenses and the dp slips a little bit. So working out before bed may be good in that way too.

I'm glad you're feeling better.
Onwards and upwards my friend!

Also is it me or is your face less depressed?

this pic is from 2 years ago actually xD

I will take new pics in 2 months or so when I am slim again . I started yesterday to eat different and will start to work out again . in 2 months I should be a lot slimmer and then I will take pics with the new phone of my brother . on many pics I look different from real life and I am not photogenic

 

[Psyborg]

Btw, what do you mean by you're 70%. I see a lot of ppl saying they're a certain percentage but what does that mean

basically a lot of the dp/dr is better but I still have some of it . I dont feel fully well yet

 

[Speedy69]

The thing is when you dream it happens during REM sleep which is true sleep. It’s actually very healthy for the brain but I can see if you are very anxious or depressed how dreams could be a little weird. Especially in a heightened state everything causes distress so I don’t see it being any different for dreams.

 

[Psyborg]

I just came back from jogging

I have never been less fit than now . I am in horrible shape

fuck my life

 

[Jason39]

Psyborg how old are you if you dont mind sharing personal info? The reason I ask is, my doc wants me to exercise because of weight and to be fit but I am afraid it may be too late due to my age

 

[Psyborg]

Psyborg how old are you if you dont mind sharing personal info? The reason I ask is, my doc wants me to exercise because of weight and to be fit but I am afraid it may be too late due to my age

I am 33

it is never to late lol

you could even start running/training at age 60 and go to marathons