[Aaron46589]

Everybody talks about acceptance and says it will fade away once your anxiety goes away. Ive had DPDR symptoms 24/7 every single day for a year and a half. They don’t seem to be fading away, I’ve even had many long periods where I’m at home relaxing with no anxiety or stress and the symptoms are still present.

These are the symptoms I have 24/7:
Blank mind
Feel like I have no soul
Can’t feel the inside of my body
No emotions except from fear and anxiety
Feel invisible and dead
Don’t feel like I’m controlling my body
I don’t feel connected to my body at all
Loss of sense of self
Looking in the mirror feels weird
Constantly feel like I’m in a dream
I feel like I’m watching myself from outside of myself

What the fuck is this bullshit man, how the fuck can you function with this shit.
Anybody else on here who have these symptoms 24/7?
Im confused and I don’t know how to go about recovery because acceptance ain’t doing shit for me. Anybody got any advice or tips on how to manage this or how to recover I would really appreciate it.

 

[dpdrhaver184]

My DP/DR is 24/7 for a year and I have many of those symptoms. I don't function - not in the way I used to. I function less well than I used to function. I don't do things that I would do if I didn't have this.

I too dislike the whole acceptance rhetoric. I'm told "ignore it and it will go away, if it doesn't go away you haven't truly ignored it". Ok, so if I somehow manage to truly ignore it then I won't truly know if it's gone or if I've just gotten used to it.

I don't find there's a consistent connection between my anxiety and my DP/DR. If I'm a little bit stressed then my DP/DR gets a little worse, but if I'm very stressed then sometimes I have moments where it goes away for a few seconds! I don't recommend making yourself stressed to try and improve it but the sad truth is relaxation may not make you feel better.

Blank mind used to be my worst symptom but that's improved a lot. I don't know why - I started taking magnesium (amino acid chelate but I find glycinate helps me more sometimes) around when it improved but I don't know if there's a correlation.

The way I am going about recovery is I have a big list of things that might improve it (based on anecdotes from here and the subreddit or from research) which I am continually adding to. On this list I write everything, from the most damaging benzos and antipsychotics to the most harmless things like therapy and relaxation. Hopefully I'll never have to try the very damaging stuff but it's there to remind me there are always options.
So far I have tried tens of supplements, am currently trying 8, and am also trying TRE (trauma releasing exercises) and therapy.

What I do isn't for everyone - often the supplement route is the wrong choice. If you want to try it, then research everything very carefully. When you're trying industrial quantities of supplements, you have to have a bulletproof process for researching stuff. This is so you can avoid side effects as much as possible and when you do get one you'll know what it is and what to do about it. I focus on the areas of a supplement that are most likely to affect me - for example, I have tinnitus so I do a lot of research on whether the things I try might make that worse.

Some safer supplements i'd encourage you to try are magnesium and vitamin b12 (methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin). They're pretty safe and some lucky people have luck with them.

Sorry about the wall of text. Best of luck.

 

[Stevemc92]

Dm me

 

[leminaseri]

My DP/DR is 24/7 for a year and I have many of those symptoms. I don't function - not in the way I used to. I function less well than I used to function. I don't do things that I would do if I didn't have this.

I too dislike the whole acceptance rhetoric. I'm told "ignore it and it will go away, if it doesn't go away you haven't truly ignored it". Ok, so if I somehow manage to truly ignore it then I won't truly know if it's gone or if I've just gotten used to it.

I don't find there's a consistent connection between my anxiety and my DP/DR. If I'm a little bit stressed then my DP/DR gets a little worse, but if I'm very stressed then sometimes I have moments where it goes away for a few seconds! I don't recommend making yourself stressed to try and improve it but the sad truth is relaxation may not make you feel better.

Blank mind used to be my worst symptom but that's improved a lot. I don't know why - I started taking magnesium (amino acid chelate but I find glycinate helps me more sometimes) around when it improved but I don't know if there's a correlation.

The way I am going about recovery is I have a big list of things that might improve it (based on anecdotes from here and the subreddit or from research) which I am continually adding to. On this list I write everything, from the most damaging benzos and antipsychotics to the most harmless things like therapy and relaxation. Hopefully I'll never have to try the very damaging stuff but it's there to remind me there are always options.
So far I have tried tens of supplements, am currently trying 8, and am also trying TRE (trauma releasing exercises) and therapy.

What I do isn't for everyone - often the supplement route is the wrong choice. If you want to try it, then research everything very carefully. When you're trying industrial quantities of supplements, you have to have a bulletproof process for researching stuff. This is so you can avoid side effects as much as possible and when you do get one you'll know what it is and what to do about it. I focus on the areas of a supplement that are most likely to affect me - for example, I have tinnitus so I do a lot of research on whether the things I try might make that worse.

Some safer supplements i'd encourage you to try are magnesium and vitamin b12 (methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin). They're pretty safe and some lucky people have luck with them.

Sorry about the wall of text. Best of luck.

you will fail brother.

 

[Peter]

you will fail brother.

Because he sees recovery nazis for what they are?

 

[marduk]

Everybody talks about acceptance and says it will fade away once your anxiety goes away. Ive had DPDR symptoms 24/7 every single day for a year and a half. They don’t seem to be fading away, I’ve even had many long periods where I’m at home relaxing with no anxiety or stress and the symptoms are still present.

These are the symptoms I have 24/7:
Blank mind
Feel like I have no soul
Can’t feel the inside of my body
No emotions except from fear and anxiety
Feel invisible and dead
Don’t feel like I’m controlling my body
I don’t feel connected to my body at all
Loss of sense of self
Looking in the mirror feels weird
Constantly feel like I’m in a dream
I feel like I’m watching myself from outside of myself

What the fuck is this bullshit man, how the fuck can you function with this shit.
Anybody else on here who have these symptoms 24/7?
Im confused and I don’t know how to go about recovery because acceptance ain’t doing shit for me. Anybody got any advice or tips on how to manage this or how to recover I would really appreciate it.

I have had this twice before. The first time for five years and the second time was less than a year. Both times even though i was calm and relaxed i still experienced symptoms mainly because i was still obsessing and was constantly monitoring the symptoms and was constantly trying to figure out the cause for my symptoms. Once i got my anxiety under control and stopped the self monitoring and analyzing i gradually started to see improvements. I believe this is what people mean that the acceptance approach should help with. A helpful thing that you can also do are identifying triggers, which thoughts or actions makes it better or worse. I believe that symptom fluctuations can offer clues for what can help one improve. This are the steps that helped me personally.

 

[Aaron46589]

I think that’s where I’m going wrong, even though I’m not anxious, subconsciously I keep thinking about it in the back of my mind.

 

[marduk]

I think that’s where I’m going wrong, even though I’m not anxious, subconsciously I keep thinking about it in the back of my mind.

It is a possibility that you still do "reality checks" even though your anxiety levels are fine and after you have distracted yourself you fall Back in to the loop afterwards.

 

[NoDevils]

Because he sees recovery nazis for what they are?

Because he's playing his own psychiatrist and not a very skilled one at that. There are definitely some things that might help alleviate a particular individual's depersonalization but to throw the kitchen sink at a war on one's own brain is entirely asinine. Many psychiatrists have an approach like that and they don't really deserve their jobs. Also, it's a complete contradiction to say, "I'm trying everything but I don't want a wholistic approach." Who would say this, a six foot tall midget?

Also, you aren't helping a single person with your antics here. If I were a mod I'd have you migrate to Reddit or whatever equivalent you prefer.

No offense to dpdrhaver. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's trolling Germans who need to take a vacation. People are coming to this board with more earnestness and good intention than you, so if they're Nazis I'm not sure what that makes you.

 

[leminaseri]

Because he sees recovery nazis for what they are?

no i have one dp-jesus and this is santos barrios. he recovered after 28 years completely without taking one molecule of psychiatric medication. if i apply basic philosophy to his history i can draw 2 conclusions:

1) the duration of the symptoms doesnt have anything to do with the treatability

2) one dont need psychiatric interventions to recover.

let alone that even IF that is helping, then only to reduce the symptoms. but never to a full recovery. because i got this illness from life circumstances and unbearable emotional stress. the way backwards is the way to healing. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

i also dm‘ed you and told a lot of my history and why i think that it is like that for me.

 

[NoDevils]

no i have one dp-jesus and this is santos barrios. he recovered after 28 years completely without taking one molecule of psychiatric medication. if i apply basic philosophy to his history i can draw 2 conclusions:

1) the duration of the symptoms doesnt have anything to do with the treatability

2) one dont need psychiatric interventions to recover.

let alone that even IF that is helping, then only to reduce the symptoms. but never to a full recovery. because i got this illness from life circumstances and unbearable emotional stress. the way backwards is the way to healing. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

i also dm‘ed you and told a lot of my history and why i think that it is like that for me.

You're saying people should look at what appears to have precipitated their depersonalization, if they know, and work on that? That makes too much sense.

I don't like any curemonger I've seen because they act like a blanket solution will help everyone and they try to sell your attention and get you to buy things. Even when you're doing a proven treatment you have to expect it'll fail sometimes and that there will be exceptions.

 

[leminaseri]

I don't find there's a consistent connection between my anxiety and my DP/DR.

to add something. it is clearly seen in behavioral studies, that people can have compulsive behavior because of underlying anxiety. for example in ocd anxiety can be a big factor, but that doesnt necessarily mean, that those people must wash their hands, that otherwise they will get horrible panic attacks.

to make this claim, you would need to understand the mechanics of anxiety, and how it can change your deep rooted behavior and thinking patterns. anxiety is not just „ah im dying please help me ahhh im going to die ahhhhh“. your fucking reptilian brain choosed to hide your emotions because it is anxious about your fucking feelings in first place.

stick with supplements dude, it will surely repair the damage what was done from long term psychological and emotional issues of yours.

 

[NoDevils]

to add something. it is clearly seen in behavioral studies, that people can have compulsive behavior because of underlying anxiety. for example in ocd anxiety can be a big factor, but that doesnt necessarily mean, that those people must wash their hands, that otherwise they will get horrible panic attacks.

to make this claim, you would need to understand the mechanics of anxiety, and how it can change your deep rooted behavior and thinking patterns. anxiety is not just „ah im dying please help me ahhh im going to die ahhhhh“. your fucking reptilian brain choosed to hide your emotions because it is anxious about your fucking feelings in first place.

stick with supplements dude, it will surely repair the damage what was done from long term psychological and emotional issues of yours.

You're just not qualified to troll people about their "emotional issues." You are Peter are both acting like shit.

I agree most people should face their problems and stop running from them but I can't force this stereotype onto a stranger.

 

[leminaseri]

You're saying people should look at what appears to have precipitated their depersonalization, if they know, and work on that? That makes too much sense.

I don't like any curemonger I've seen because they act like a blanket solution will help everyone and they try to sell your attention and get you to buy things. Even when you're doing a proven treatment you have to expect it'll fail sometimes and that there will be exceptions.

the one im talking about doesnt sell anything. he wrote a book of his own theory why one gets dpdr, but he never promoted it or made one video „get this book and you will cured“ there is not one claim of him. second, he always makes the disclaim, that everyones mmv and that everyone is different. the points i told about him are just my own fascination about his recovery. he has an internet page where he posted all of his exercises he did himself to recover from it and it is completely free. this are also points for me where i can believe in his honesty.

 

[NoDevils]

the one im talking about doesnt sell anything. he wrote a book of his own theory why one gets dpdr, but he never promoted it or made one video „get this book and you will cured“ there is not one claim of him. second, he always makes the disclaim, that everyones mmv and that everyone is different. the points i told about him are just my own fascination about his recovery. he has an internet page where he posted all of his exercises he did himself to recover from it and it is completely free. this are also points for me where i can believe in his honesty.

These days everything is a balance between authenticity and making money. I agree there are people who earnestly want to share their story. BigNoKnow seems to be one of them. He says his depersonalization was from testosterone deficiency.

 

[leminaseri]

You're just not qualified to troll people about their "emotional issues." You are Peter are both acting like shit.

I agree most people should face their problems and stop running from them but I can't force this stereotype onto a stranger.

i dont know what you want rn but my point is simple. if someone says that his dpdr doesnt include any components of anxiety, then he is just in denial. nothing else. surely there are exceptions of physical causes. but if we talk about this psychological dpdr, then you can not ignore anxiety

 

[leminaseri]

These days everything is a balance between authenticity and making money.

how can you make such a claim about santos without even watched one video of him? im saying to you that he doesnt want any money for his exercises and that everything is completely free, except his book but that has a normal price for every book as well. he wants to found depersonalization charity in spain to raise awareness. man dont you understand what im talking about or do you pull conclusions from your ass?

 

[NoDevils]

i dont know what you want rn but my point is simple. if someone says that his dpdr doesnt include any components of anxiety, then he is just in denial. nothing else. surely there are exceptions of physical causes. but if we talk about this psychological dpdr, then you can not ignore anxiety

You're diagnosing him with an anxiety disorder, "emotional problems," and maybe are implying it's traumagenic. You're not qualified to do that and you haven't conducted an interview, rather you're trolling him.

 

[leminaseri]

You're diagnosing him with an anxiety disorder, "emotional problems," and maybe are implying it's traumagenic. You're not qualified to do that and you haven't conducted an interview, rather you're trolling him.

no i can show you lots of recovery stories where people tell that they always ignored their anxiety and that they thought, it cant be the reason for all of that but after they have recovered and looked retrospective they can clearly see anxiety as a reason. i already said that physical causes are an exception.

 

[leminaseri]

You're diagnosing him with an anxiety disorder

i have never done that