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smells like bulls^&t to me, if it was as easy as reading a book or listening to a tape i think all of us here would not be in this forum any more. :shock: :?
 

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They relate DP/DR to anxiety...wich is not always the case.

With this maybe you could fight anxiety...but not DP.

Smells like fish to me.

Thanks for sharing anyways =)
 
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That website is sickening.

So.. American.

That guy is playing into the fact that DP/DR is so distressing and so hard to budge.. He's dreaming. He's working up hope's real high.. asshole
 

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I agree with the article 100%. Dp/dr is a bi-product of anxiety/panic. If you eliminate the anxiety the dp/dr goes away instantly. At least this defintely happens in my case. My dp/dr is chronic due to my constant state of general anxiety. I believe its a primitive brain mechanism which becomes engaged during periods of severe mental distress. Its just one of the components of the flight or fight mechanism.

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the sad thing is that this info. is so accurate and your synical subconscious refuses to believe that it can be possible.

back up your arguments with factual information.
anyone can say "it's snakeoil" but that just sounds like synicism due to prolonged periods of dp/dr without cure.

please tell me how, after 1-2 years of fully implementing the Linden (or any other) method, you came to the conclusion that it is "snake-oil".

these throw-away lines from you people are perpetuating the myth that dp/dr is a life sentence.
 

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Pugdog,

I'm not saying I don't believe the info is incorrect, but are you willing to spend the $100 on Linden's Book and CD to find out if this guy has found the cure to DP? If you are, will you buy it and tell the rest of us if you think it's worth it?

-Nate
 

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Well I have the linden method and it's not realy worth it. BUT.. I didn't follow it 100% and nog long enough. But I think it can help a lot with anxiety and deffinatly 90% of the information is correct. On the other hand Charles Linden did not realy suffer from 24/7 DP.
I think it can be helpfull for your anxiety but it's not worth that much money
 

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DutchM,

So can you give us a a brief description of the Linden method? Is it a kind of meditation? Is it like biofeedback? Something you do everyday in the morning for, like, 20 minutes? Something like that?

-Nate
 

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I think what makes his program so appealing is that it has a good name, "The Linden Method". It makes you think it's something new and different. It's really just another course on panic/anxiety from what I could tell from reading the information. There's a way you can download it for free on their website. But you have to email them and ask them for a password. I think jc told me about it. But I didn't see how it was any different from all the other panic/anxiety info. Practice breathing, visualization, ways to stop panic attacks by distraction, etc, etc. Maybe I missed something though. I kept it on my desktop for awhile but finally deleted it.
 

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dakotajo said:
I agree with the article 100%. Dp/dr is a bi-product of anxiety/panic. If you eliminate the anxiety the dp/dr goes away instantly. At least this defintely happens in my case. My dp/dr is chronic due to my constant state of general anxiety. I believe its a primitive brain mechanism which becomes engaged during periods of severe mental distress. Its just one of the components of the flight or fight mechanism.

Joe
When I first got DP I didn't have anxiety. I got anxiety after about a year of having DP.
 
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Nate,

I don't know what frame of mind I was in when I wrote my last message, Maybe I'm progressing to scizophrenia, who knows. Don't know why I got so agro.
About Linden
Whenever I hear of a new therapy/technique like "CBT" I hope that this is "the magic cure", but it always turns out to be stuff you have to learn or practice over and over. Linden is the same. It is learning how to focus outward/be distracted again, understanding the role of the part of the brain called the amygdala, taking on your symptoms (rather than fearing them) and breathing (via Tai Chi). Geared towards anxiety disorders but definately relevant to us in my opinion.
It hasn't been a cure for me but it helped me to improve myself a bit. Because I'm slack/can't concentrate when it comes to repetetive learning, I haven't made a concerted effort to change.

I happily paid my $100 without having a clue, what's $100 to find out if it's snake oil or not. Who cares if you exhaust alot of time and money trying to overcome dp/dr, you've got nothin to lose. No body goes without food or shelter in most countries, what else do you need?
 

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I bought the Linden Method. Am undecided on its efficacy. His approach to ridding yourself of anxiety is basically about focusing outwards, trying as hard as you can not to obsess and to throw yourself into life. He also teaches you how to relax and a bit of self hypnosis is thrown in for good measure. All good advice.

My major problem with is it is that he suggests you take whatever it is that caused you to become anxious, place it as far into the back of your mind as possible and bury under rocks. Well, for me, getting out what was underneath the rocks is slowly taking away my dp. My anxiety came after dp too, though I'm not sure whether that makes a whole lot of difference, since it is all linked anyway.

It is common sense advice for anxiety symptoms, regardless of you may experience them, before or after dp. Though it is a superficial remedy, as I am dubious that anyone with any deeper seated problems would be able to keep this up for any length of time without experiencing relapses.

Everybody is different. I needed more than the Linden Method. I moved on to reading more about psychology, despite its explicit instructions to not do so. I needed to understand how it all works, but this is not always helpful to everyone. In particular, I needed to find out how I worked, which I would not be achieving if I followed only The Linden Method. Charles Linden is British, but The Linden Method has definitely been 'americanised' on its website, no offence meant by that! We're just stiff upper-lip over here, ya?

Seriously, his advice is similar to Janine's focusing outwards so save yourself the dosh and take her advice. Her book was much more satisfying. (I'm expecting commission Janine, for any subsequent rise in sales...)
 

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i didnt pay for the package i got a free download from a link somebody sent me,and although im still dped i followed his advice for about a month and a half and it helped tremendously with my morning anxiety
 
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