[dax]

I feel that my anxiety disorder which seems to be causing by derealization stems from the ecstasy that I had used in the past. I had also taken LSD, but I don't think that caused any problems as ecstasy is known for generating anxiety disorders while LSD is not.

The intersting thing, however, is that many of my DR experiences seem similar in some ways to my LSD experiences. Both the visuals and the sense of confusion. Has anyone else taken LSD and found it to be similar to their DR experiences?

 

[Guest]

When did you take lsd and ecstacy? When did you first experience dr/dp

 

[jft]

Dax. What kind of visuals do yu have?

I will go to my grave until shown different, but I swear drug induced dr/dp as a chronic companion is so similiar to LSD or PCP that it begs to be a shade different than you all folks with non drug induced. I do not want to be special mind you, but someday I would like to see this sorted out research wise and see if it was all the same.
jft

 

[bat]

hi
have taken both. i find the dr very like acid visuals, in particular the colours. my dp came on as a result of xtc

 

[Martinelv]

I have taken, over the years, 'E', Weed (both Hash and Skunk), PCP, Mushrooms, Cocaine, Poppers, Absinthe (the proper stuff), LSD (once), GHB, Ketamine and a cigarette soaked in Heroin.

My most frequent drug of choice has been 'E' and Weed...most of the other things I've only ever tried once or twice. Consequently, the only drugs that have percipirtated panic/DR were 'E' and weed. I, let's say, overdid it on both. When I used them occassionally, I had no problems whatsoever. I must say, I didn't enjoy PCP though. Eeek. I think the one LSD tab I had was a dud...I just felt a bit odd.

One thing that I think might have some relevance to my recovery from DR/DP, is the fact that I have never, EVER, hallucinated on any of these drugs, while other around me have gone crazy as a loon.

 

[agentcooper]

the difference, for me, between lsd trips and my derealization is that lsd increases seratonin making someone happy and derealization has none of that. i find dr to be similar to ketamine.

 

[Guest]

first off, lsd does not make everyone happy. my experience was a hell that forever changed me. dax, i know what it is like to feel tripped out, it is so scary to think that the effects of lsd can last for so long. when i have panick attacks it feels exactly like the awful trip i had,super scary and hopeless. like so many others have said on this site, i think it is so important to try not to focus on the symptoms. i used to scare the shit out of myself thinking about how i was changed by acid. now i try to look at it like this, if i keep scaring myself into panick attacks, then lsd will be with me for the rest of my life. you may want to check out HPPDonline.com. talks more about drug induced disorders specificallyu lsd. there dp section isnt the best though. hope this helps. oh yeah and dax, i'm a fellow new englander, rhode island ya masshole! LOL!

 

[gimpy34]

My DP/DR started after having a panic attack the day after taking ecstasy and consuming large amounts of alcohol. I actually recovered for a couple months after that but started having panic attacks again after drinking.

I find DP/DR very much like the part of tripping from shrooms after you are done hallucinating. You're not really seeing things that aren't there anymore but things aren't normal yet. It's pretty much like being in paranoid marijuana phase as well.

 

[agentcooper]

ummm...foggy, i didn't say it made everyone happy. it does activate the seratonin in one's brain, though.

 

[livinginhell333]

yea i smoked some weed in november 2 days before my birthday, what a horrible b-day it was, days later i was having visual problems paranoid thinking, anxious, i was still hallucinating and having some delusions... i was scared. things were moving in super slow motion like a dream. those feelings subsided a little, but never wen't away, and it made me think more and more and i started questioning why am i here, i don't feel here, but i thought i was going to get better soon and it never happended.

I had some really bad panic attacks a month after doing the weed and i was feeling more weird like scared to drive, music sounded in slow motion, people were unfamiliar, i felt like i was in a movie... it scared me. i really wasn't here. i felt like i was going to die and my mind was lost. i wen't to the hospital 3 times in like 4 days, thinking i was having a heart attack. and now i'm stuck like this, i was put on anti-psychotics which helped me a little, but just recently stopped taking them, not feeling any better. so i don't think the weed caused it. it was a trigger and made me feel weird and induced these feelings, but me freaking out made it worse.

 

[jft]

Gimpy. That is how I have described it for years. DR feels like I am on the way down from an acid trip. No big hallucinations, but lots of fuzz in the air and in the brain.

Cloverstone. You are so right in your post in how this all is uniquely experienced by all of us and even though it seems so similiar to all of us that we all have it a bit different. It is so incredibly hard to phenomenologicaly try to compare notes with each other and really grasp what we all are saying, but I think we have a pretty good running knowledge. But only someone, as you inferred, who has done acid will ever know what this means.....maybe. Maybe what we experienced while high was nothing more than normal dr/dp, the same as everyone and that is why it seems so familiar to lsd. Maybe non drug induced people are trying to describe what we felt while high. Is it all the same? I would give a million bucks for all of us to do Vulcan mind locks to each other and really gain an understanding where words and images fail.
jft

 

[Scattered]

I'm not sure if my DP/anxiety was drug induced, but bad drug experiences seem to have influenced it. Bad trips on mushrooms, pot, and DXM all started making me question my reality and turn inward to the point of anxiety. I haven't touched a drug or alcohol in over a year but still tend to have that feeling of a bad trip when having panic attacks or DP. I tried ecstasy a few times. Ironically these were the most positive drug experiences I've ever had.

 

[Guest]

my dr gives me that stoned vision but none of the pleasant or positive feelings attached to it

 

[rob]

took lsd once - 10 hours of pure hell/hallucinations and panic with no escape - came round ok and a day later my dp/dr came on in a flash and 30 years later it's still here ....

rob

 

[Guest]

the only drug i have done is weed, have never tried acid or ecstacy and dont plan on it ever...

 

[Guest]

I got dp/dr from weed.... will NEVER ever touch any drug or drink ever again......... Not worth the hassle.....

 

[Guest]

When did you take lsd and ecstacy? When did you first experience dr/dp

if you use hard drugs regurly they would mask DP/DR as ive found in the past 3 days, so youd only find out when you stop using them probly for about a 2 week period

 

[Guest]

Ok. Recently i took shrooms for the first time. I already had dp/dr and i had never had a bad reaction to drugs before but this trip was like all my dp/dr symptoms got magnified to extreme perportions. I took the shrooms and was having a great time and then i started smoking weed while on shrooms and that's when things got shitty. I'd stare at my feet and after a second i forget where i was or who i was and, no matter how hard i tried, this information would not return to me. Then i'd be floating in a black abyss where the universe and myself no longer existed. I was a conciousness without a mind, body or soul. When i snapped out of that i would look around me and the world looked as if i were looking at it through a peep hole, literally. After that things just became the normal, shitty trip many ppl experience w/ hallucinations and stuff. Has anyone else had a bad experience with shrooms that is related to their dp/dr? And for anyone with dp/dr who have neve taken shrooms and don't know what kind of reaction they will have, don't do it.