Have AD's Made DP/DR WORSE???????????

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qbsbrown

Discussion Starter · Nov 23, 2004

I've tried them all. And they immediately make my DR worse. I'm trying to do the paxil and lamictal, but i just go crazy. Klonopin might be the right one.

Is this common that they make it worse?
I was on effexor when i had this huge breakthrough panic attack, which led to the past three years of serious DP/DR. So im wondering if there is some sort of association that my brain has with them. Just a thought.

Thanks everbody,

Brian

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· #41 · Nov 30, 2004

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Pure Narcotic said:

You're bored...arn't you.

I'm feelin' that.

:mrgreen: Boredoms FUN... isn't it *watches CEILING fann*

how do you spell "ceiling"???

:shock:

YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO SEDATED, PURE NARCOTIC...urh.shlow.down.me.braiynwayvez

Are you sedated PN?

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lone wolf

· #42 · Nov 30, 2004

Pure Narcotic said:
Yeah, maybe you are the exception to the rule. Unfortunately though, alot of people go on these meds when they could get by without them and find other coping techniques. These are the people who end up getting sick and addicted. If you are better off than before and have very few side effects, then I commend you. You are rare if that is the case.

Yes, indeed I basically agree with you regarding meds, I think they are continually over-prescribed - that must be the result of lobbying by phamacy industries. :? About side effects, I have found Zyprexa dulls my cognitive functions somewhat *) and takes my sex drive almost completely away. When my therapist heard about the sex question, she recommend me another antipsychotic Risperdal. I may give it a try, but won't tell her that I'll start diminishing the dose gradually from now on.

I think my psychosis was mainly a reaction to enormous stress levels (PTSD flashbacks), and I definitely don't agree with my therapist regarding the importance of long-term antipsychotic medication. Also my boyfriend took Risperdal when he had psychosis in his past, but quit taking the med soon after he started feeling better. That's why I have thought to stop my antipsychotic medication slowly step by step in the near future as I wish to feel myself/ves better and have my brain chemistry functioning in its natural state, without unnecessary mind-dulling meds.

Best wishes,
Ninnu

*) I guess I have DDNOS, as I have quite a long history of experiencing myself as a bunch of alters - though at the moment there are only two of us, me and teenage alter Linda, as far as I know. I joined DID (dissociative identity disorder) mailing list lately, and for some reason got finally in touch with Linda again. However, I hardly can sense what she is thinking and the co-consciousness with her is very delicate.

I asked in the DID mailing list, may the weakness of the co-consciousness occur bc I take Zyprexa and got a reply I may be right, as I'm not the only one in the list, whose alter functions have been messed up with neurolepts. So I have thought to quit taking Zyprexa/possible Risperdal gradually from now on, cuz I want to feel life without mind-numbing meds. Let's see...

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· #43 · Nov 30, 2004

Ninnu said:
Pure Narcotic said:

Yeah, maybe you are the exception to the rule. Unfortunately though, alot of people go on these meds when they could get by without them and find other coping techniques. These are the people who end up getting sick and addicted. If you are better off than before and have very few side effects, then I commend you. You are rare if that is the case.

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Yes, indeed I basically agree with you regarding meds, I think they are continually over-prescribed - that must be the result of lobbying by phamacy industries. :? About side effects, I have found Zyprexa dulls my cognitive functions somewhat *) and takes my sex drive almost completely away. When my therapist heard about the sex question, she recommend me another antipsychotic Risperdal. I may give it a try, but won't tell her that I'll start diminishing the dose gradually from now on.

I think my psychosis was mainly a reaction to enormous stress levels (PTSD flashbacks), and I definitely don't agree with my therapist regarding the importance of long-term antipsychotic medication. Also my boyfriend took Risperdal when he had psychosis in his past, but quit taking the med soon after he started feeling better. That's why I have thought to stop my antipsychotic medication slowly step by step in the near future as I wish to feel myself/ves better and have my brain chemistry functioning in its natural state, without unnecessary mind-dulling meds.

Best wishes,
Ninnu

*) I guess I have DDNOS, as I have quite a long history of experiencing myself as a bunch of alters - though at the moment there are only two of us, me and teenage alter Linda, as far as I know. I joined DID (dissociative identity disorder) mailing list lately, and for some reason got finally in touch with Linda again. However, I hardly can sense what she is thinking and the co-consciousness with her is very delicate.

I asked in the DID mailing list, may the weakness of the co-consciousness occur bc I take Zyprexa and got a reply I may be right, as I'm not the only one in the list, whose alter functions have been messed up with neurolepts. So I have thought to quit taking Zyprexa/possible Risperdal gradually from now on, cuz I want to feel life without mind-numbing meds. Let's see...

I'm listening.

Autistics have low Dopamine.

It was thought I was "schizophrenic".

But, schizophrenics CANT be OK without Neuroleptics.

I've been without them for a year and 10 months.
I'm mad, but a Schizo would have
very good "self control"...
To go a year and 10 months without ANY Neuroleptics...

I still cant get anyone to TELL me
If people with Asperger's can have SCHIZOPHRENIA "as well"...

Autism as my current diagnosis...
Suggests why the dopamine...
Didn't "swing back upp."

Autistics have low dopamine.

You, THEREFORE (I wrote the above ON PURPOSE!!!),
Cant connect with your powerful Linda self, because Neuroleptics induce "autism", so to speak...

Your ego is squished into "Rain man" mode right now...
"saving you from yourself",
As the righteous PSYCHIATRISTS doo...

It is thought redundant to give an Autistic anti-psychotics...

Linda is squished into the reduced Dopamine level...
You have to "swing back up" to find her...
But you'll get unstable.

I'm just a brainDEAD autistic apparently...
I'm STILL WAITING for my personality to fracture into Schizophrenic delusion/grandiousity...emotional withdrawal etc.
Dammit, I'm so ashamed... I cant even do mi "schizophrenia" rite... damn.
I love helpful Doctorrs *smooch...*

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· #44 · Nov 30, 2004

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· #45 · Nov 30, 2004

ghost said:
Pure Narcotic said:

Anti psychotics gave you brain damage? If so, then I don't doubt it. I have read all sorts of stories. I have brain damage from benzos, but from what i'm told, it is only temporary. What is your story with the anti psychotics?

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brain damage ISN'T temporary. Dead cells... are DEAD CELLS!!!
Doctors WONT EVER ADMIT THAT PSYCH DRUGGS DO ANI DAMAGGE WHAT-SO-EVARR.

the damage is permanent......it seems all such a vicious circle at times.... Kinda sickening to the soul really......
depersonalisation is kinda chemistry of the soul...

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· #46 · Nov 30, 2004

not permanent in all cases...just feels like it sometimes

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· #47 · Nov 30, 2004

darkenedroses said:

Hello Clairabelle

Umm a Psychic told me...they'll "fix it" a bit, y'know supplements, what not, but brain damage will be with me permanently to a certain degree.
I actually "know". I can feel it.

Long-term (9 years) Anti-depressant & Anti-psychotics were weaned off and I waited for the dopamine to rise, and for the serotonin to drop.

And I waited. And I waited. And "the room got darker", and my "solar plexus/emotions SWITCHED OFF", and I got huge fatigue feelings, and my thoughts clogged up like mi hedd was full of glue, and I felt electric shocks shooting THRU mi hedd, and I got vapourised with extreme fatigue, and I felt like my head was in a pressure chamber/microwave OVEN, and then... it was over.

I was "left" with a gluggy, jammed up head. Raised intra-cranial pressure, loss of motivation, drained of all strength. My head is CLOGGED to all frickk.
:mrgreen:

Official "line" from Doctors.
Psych meds can cause
Tardive dyskinesia
Tardive DEMENTIA
Neuroleptic withdrawal syndrome
Serotonin irritation syndrome

But the brain damage GHOST describes???
No way.

They said
ALL THAT HAPPENS
is the dopamine and serotonin receptors SLOWLY "swing" back to their
prefferred level (which is why they "betted" I'd relapse...)

I disaggree. Ghost has severe bleepin brain damage.

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· #48 · Nov 30, 2004

Who is that girl in the picture Ghost?? She is pretty.

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· #49 · Nov 30, 2004

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Pure Narcotic said:
Who is that girl in the picture Ghost?? She is pretty.

Which picture?
this one:

That isn't me.

I need a scanner. So I can put my face up. I'm plain as dayy

You sound like you need the dairy maiden to accidently come deliver milk to the wrong house.

Pure Narcotic & Dairy Maiden.

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· #50 · Nov 30, 2004

That looks like the guy from "That 70's Show"

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· #51 · Nov 30, 2004

Pure Narcotic said:
That looks like the guy from "That 70's Show"

someday, bloody sumdayy...

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· #52 · Dec 1, 2004

Hey ghost,

'I actually "know". I can feel it.'- You can feel the nagging of it always like a shadow following you round.... 'doom' feeling

' I was "left" with a gluggy, jammed up head.'-most days

' And I waited. And I waited. And "the room got darker ' waiting for some relief i guess....sick of going round in circles- I've waited for ages to get the 'right' help....still getting there...guess that's life

I just feel like im surfin brain wavelengths...slippin between various parts of reality...I've accepted it but I guess it doesn't make it any easier..Whatsoever!!!! .Just hoping I can find a med that will make it a bit easier...but not a nasty SSRI lol

I feel sometimes like there's different me's...not sure if its DID or just my perspective thats been messed up....(due to stupid past pot smoking...never once did they even think about cannabis psychosis cos my perspective had been warped by then....)

I can relate to the feeling of dox being so dismissive and not acknowledging what they can do to help.....It's 'our' mental state and when we go on about they don't always empathise....I hate stupid dox!!!! If my current psych doesn't help me I think I'm gonna ditch her in the new year and get another...

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· #53 · Dec 1, 2004

darkenedroses said:
Hey ghost,

'I actually "know". I can feel it.'- You can feel the nagging of it always like a shadow following you round.... 'doom' feeling

' I was "left" with a gluggy, jammed up head.'-most days

' And I waited. And I waited. And "the room got darker ' waiting for some relief i guess....sick of going round in circles- I've waited for ages to get the 'right' help....still getting there...guess that's life

I just feel like im surfin brain wavelengths...slippin between various parts of reality...I've accepted it but I guess it doesn't make it any easier..Whatsoever!!!! .Just hoping I can find a med that will make it a bit easier...but not a nasty SSRI lol

I feel sometimes like there's different me's...not sure if its DID or just my perspective thats been messed up....(due to stupid past pot smoking...never once did they even think about cannabis psychosis cos my perspective had been warped by then....)

I can relate to the feeling of dox being so dismissive and not acknowledging what they can do to help.....It's 'our' mental state and when we go on about they don't always empathise....I hate stupid dox!!!! If my current psych doesn't help me I think I'm gonna ditch her in the new year and get another...

You dont have an avatar.

darkenedroses said:
You can feel the nagging of it always like a shadow following you round.... 'doom' feeling

YES. Like there is metallic fluid in my head, making me depressed, angry and dark. "Possessed" feeling, like a black water is in my head. It feels tragic. It wont ever go. My reality is "doom", yes... from the feeling itself.

I'm not surfing brain wavelengths... I'm surfing thin air.

My reality is horror.
Have you ever felt "horror" Darkened Roses?

I haven't got an identity. I'm a burnt out shell.

Dox.. Dont empathise, dismissive, stupid.

Er... Evil, more like, pure satan worshippers.

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· #54 · Dec 1, 2004

yep i've had horror..it's nasty, disastrous, overwhelming..etc... sux...I just hope find the answers we're lookin for....

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· #55 · Dec 1, 2004

darkenedroses said:
yep i've had horror..it's nasty, disastrous, overwhelming..etc... sux...I just hope find the answers we're lookin for....

<insert picture>

Inflammed

· #56 · Dec 2, 2004

I tried Zoloft and Celexa a few years ago...It did reduced my DP/DR by 50% but I felt so numb and zombie that I stopped...and side-effects were horrible...

I used small amounts of Benzo (Xanax) only for 2 months...
And I developped DR because of this and it made my DP 10 times worse than it was.

I'll NEVER put any pills of any kind in my mouth again. NEVER.
They only made me worse in the long run...
I prefer feeling bad somtimes and be drug free than feeling better and drugged like a junkie.

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· #57 · Dec 2, 2004

Inflammed said:
I tried Zoloft and Celexa a few years ago...It did reduced my DP/DR by 50% but I felt so numb and zombie that I stopped...and side-effects were horrible...

I used small amounts of Benzo (Xanax) only for 2 months...
And I developped DR because of this and it made my DP 10 times worse than it was.

I'll NEVER put any pills of any kind in my mouth again. NEVER.
They only made me worse in the long run...
I prefer feeling bad somtimes and be drug free than feeling better and drugged like a junkie.

Ah HAHA

You "know" what GHOST "Knows".. (so to speak)

What's ZANAX? An anti anxiety drug?

...and side-effects were horrible...

Ah HAHA

Give them to your Doctor FIRST. Doctors should ALSO be trained "Beef eaters". I'm gonna NEED a beef-eater in my life.. With all this CRAP "helpful treatment" that keeps being THROWN IN MY FACE.

Tablets are shit. THEY DO fuck all.

All the Schizophrenics I know STILL hear "voices" on high dose Anti-psychotics. All the impulsive suicidal people I know STILL repeatedly attempt suicide whilst on stabilising doses of Anti-depressants.
HA HA HAA

HA

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· #58 · Dec 2, 2004

Inflammed said:
(Xanax)

I wrote XANAX wrong. I wrote it as Zanax.

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