[evansuk2000]

Does having DP/DR cause you to experience sucidal thoughts poll?​

I know DP/DR is different for everyone, I am interested in how it effects these type of thoughts, everyone can be prone to Sucidal thoughts, so which answer best describes how DP/DR effects you in general over the last month...

I have these thoughts daily.	38	46.91%
I have these thoughts less frequently, a few times a week.	18	22.22%
I suffer from these thoughts from time to time, but don't give much attention to them and generally feel okay.	16	19.75%
I rarely suffer from these thoughts, or am not bothered by them.	9	11.11%

 

[evansuk2000]

First time creating a poll,

I'm a firm believer that we will all get better, either 100% of to a manageable level, and enjoy life.

I'd like to know if DP/DR has caused you to suffer from suicidal thoughts, and if so how frequently. Please answer whilst looking at the last month of your life.

 

[*Dreamer*]

I can't vote as there isn't a question that fits me. I have been close to suicide four times in my life.
1. Age 28 I was planning on dying at 30. Planned out to the last detail. I was given Klonopn and did not wish to die.
2. Late 30s ... very suicidal ... more likely from my clinical depression and no change in my DP/DR. Unable to pursue my career.

3. Age 52, after breast cancer. Did not know if I could deal with all of that and the DP/DR, etc.
4. Last winter, after my 56th birthday. Again, I think it was clinical depression and DP combined -- hopelessness about the future.

When I come out of these episodes I wonder, "How could I have been thinking that?" There IS a change in how you think. Serious suicidal thinking needs immediate attention.

I am glad I never took action. However I fear as I get older .. how will I deal with the challenges of age AND DP/DR?
No clue. But I force myself to reach out for help. I also go on a "minute by minute" basis. "If I can survive this moment, I go on to the next." Or "this day." These episodes can last 5 months at a time.

Some individuals do not have clinical depression with DP/DR, but I think feel suicidal with a chronic condition of any kind -- if it is severly limiting. Depends on the person. Everyone is unique, and has different issues that can occur with DP/DR or not. Also, for me, I have never had a real family. I have sort of given up on a close relationship with a man. Very depressing for me. But I try to live only in the present. Best one can do. And make the most of it.

 

[*Dreamer*]

Oh, also, the thought of "exiting" is sort of "an option" for me. Just "an option" sitting there. But I don't feel suicidal when that crosses my mind now and again.

 

[evansuk2000]

I've read your blog, and I'm glad you've managed to hang in there through the tough times, your an incredibly strong individual
Thanks for taking the time to reply - hope you have a lovely week.

 

[Tanith]

I've only propery considered suicidal to the extent that I left my home convinced that I wouldn't be returning once in my life. Never came anywhere near to actually attempting it though and it turned into an extremely long walk instead (In hindsight it was pretty stupid reasons but I was still a teenager at the time). That actually occurred in the months before I got DP. I was overwhelmed with emotion and I believe being unable to cope was a major contributing factor behind why I got DP in the first place, to act as a sort of defence mechanism.

In the years since I got DP I've had the occasional suicidal thought. Though when I do I tend to logically convince myself out of it reasonably quickly. Or I over-analyse existence and come to the conclusion that I can't logically 100% guarantee that there is something after death and the human reaction to fear of the unknown kicks in. Interestingly that thought process actually moved me from being an atheist to an agnostic as I couldn't 100% rule out that there might be something after death either.

 

[Will.P.T]

I've had thoughts of suicide fairly recently but today I started thinking deeply, a bit too deeply, and realised that I should focus more on that fact that my life is great and not why it isn't perfect. I also decided to form a solution based on the thousands of sites and places I've read up on, on this disorder. I posted in the general discussions part what i'm gonna do and even if it doesn't work, I know that i'll never consider suicide again

I just felt like telling someone that because I feel quite proud that I came to that conclusion and I hope everyone who has come close to suicide will reach it too.

Gratitude for what you have, however little it may be, is what helps those thoughts go away

 

[imayusa]

I never suffered from suicidal thoughts until I began to take clinical drugs, those antidepressants and antipsychotics made me become someone I am not. The suicidal thoughts began while I was on the medication, now that I am no longer on any medication those thoughts have disappeared.

 

[Jesus-is-my-Saviour]

I can't vote as there isn't a question that fits me. I have been close to suicide four times in my life.
1. Age 28 I was planning on dying at 30. Planned out to the last detail. I was given Klonopn and did not wish to die.
2. Late 30s ... very suicidal ... more likely from my clinical depression and no change in my DP/DR. Unable to pursue my career.

3. Age 52, after breast cancer. Did not know if I could deal with all of that and the DP/DR, etc.
4. Last winter, after my 56th birthday. Again, I think it was clinical depression and DP combined -- hopelessness about the future.

When I come out of these episodes I wonder, "How could I have been thinking that?" There IS a change in how you think. Serious suicidal thinking needs immediate attention.

I am glad I never took action. However I fear as I get older .. how will I deal with the challenges of age AND DP/DR?
No clue. But I force myself to reach out for help. I also go on a "minute by minute" basis. "If I can survive this moment, I go on to the next." Or "this day." These episodes can last 5 months at a time.

Some individuals do not have clinical depression with DP/DR, but I think feel suicidal with a chronic condition of any kind -- if it is severly limiting. Depends on the person. Everyone is unique, and has different issues that can occur with DP/DR or not. Also, for me, I have never had a real family. I have sort of given up on a close relationship with a man. Very depressing for me. But I try to live only in the present. Best one can do. And make the most of it.

Hi There. I just stumbled across your post and I am sorry that you have gone through everything that you mentioned! I can't imagine what that must've been like. My name is Robbie and I too have suffered with DP/DR. Most terrifying thing I have ever experienced in my life. I have been doing MUCH better lately though. I don't want to scare you away with this but I want to know if you believe in God? Do you think He is real or do you believe in evolution or something like that? I am curious to know what your beliefs are. Hope to hear from you.

 

[TDX]

There was a time where I almost daily started online countdowns and watched the numbers going down for hours, trying to delude myself to thinking that my suffering only goes for a limited time. After I heard of ALKS-5461 I stopped this, but when after some years it becomes clear that my symptoms are refractory to all treatments this will most likely return. I still think about suicide at least once every day.

 

[didep]

There was a time where I almost daily started online countdowns and watched the numbers going down for hours, trying to delude myself to thinking that my suffering only goes for a limited time. After I heard of ALKS-5461 I stopped this, but when after some years it becomes clear that my symptoms are refractory to all treatments this will most likely return. I still think about suicide at least once every day.

you know when would be in the market ALKS-5461?

 

[TDX]

I think 2016 or 2017. At the moment it's in phase III trials for depression.

 

[servadei]

Yes..In a mild form. It goes like this...
Stress(in my case antidepressant withdrawal) -> Anxiety -> DR/DP (coping mechanism) -> since it is not a very pleasant coping mechanism we get to -> SUIC. thoughts.

Then DR/DP kicks in even stronger (oh yes, save me my coping mechanism -.-) where I feel even suicide won't help.
Congratulations DP/DR! I don't have suic. thoughts anymore, because even death can't save me now. -.-

 

[didep]

I think 2016 or 2017. At the moment it's in phase III trials for depression.

And if ALKS-5461 is not effective for dp / dr have some other medication for us hope?

 

[TDX]

Don't know. Maybe NSI-189 or new antidepressants which act on the glutamatergic system, such as Rapastinel. Other medications which act on the glutamate-system to our advantidge might be novel anticonvulsives or antipsychotics like Eglumegad.

Unfortunately psychiatry has been largely abandoned by the pharmaindustry, so in the next decades there might be nothing for us.

 

[didep]

Don't know. Maybe NSI-189 or new antidepressants which act on the glutamatergic system, such as Rapastinel. Other medications which act on the glutamate-system to our advantidge might be novel anticonvulsives or antipsychotics like Eglumegad.

Unfortunately psychiatry has been largely abandoned by the pharmaindustry, so in the next decades there might be nothing for us.

Until all these drugs are available, it is time that we have to continue suffering this hell.
This month came the brexpiprazole market is an antipsychotic

 

[TDX]

This month came the brexpiprazole market is an antipsychotic

It seems to be an "Abilify 2.0". It may be interesting, because it's a dopamine partial agonist and there is some anecdotal evidence for Abilify improving depersonalization.

Until all these drugs are available, it is time that we have to continue suffering this hell.

At least for some it's not an endless hell. ALKS-5461 and Rapastinel should become available in 2016. So 2016 will be an interesting year in regard of depersonalization.

 

[didep]

It seems to be an "Abilify 2.0". It may be interesting, because it's a dopamine partial agonist and there is some anecdotal evidence for Abilify improving depersonalization.

At least for some it's not an endless hell. ALKS-5461 and Rapastinel should become available in 2016. So 2016 will be an interesting year in regard of depersonalization.

Hopefully sooner reaches 2016

 

[TDX]

Generally 2015 seems to be a bad depersonalization year. I looked into Pubmed and found only 10 publications for this year so far. Most of them did not really increase our understanding of depersonalization.

The previous year had 22 publications which is the world record. But I don't think we'll reach that number this year.