Hapeh & Sananga

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · Mar 6, 2022

So I've had DP/DR for over 18 years now. Over time I've been able to grow stronger, albeit remaining dissociated, with the same symptoms still present. I finally feel that I'm on my way out of this though.

I'm not saying I'm recovered, yet. But there are some things I've started taking that have propelled my reconnection with self and reality. They are both Shamanic Medicines from South America.

Hapeh I have been taking daily for a few months now. And Sananga I just finished 14 days of. If you are curious then I suggest looking into these medicines.

Go here: www.chakraopenings.com

Also, be sure to respect these Sacred Medicines and follow the instructions on how to take them properly and safely.

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Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, therapist or psychiatrist. Always discuss with your doctor before taking any supplement or otherwise. And if these treatments are illegal in your country, then of course, do not purchase send or use them. I am simply a volunteer on the staff here and a fellow depersonalized person who has found profound healing with the above mentioned medicines.
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For anyone still interested, here are the instructions to follow:

Hapeh: Get into a comfortable setting, with relaxing music or silence, whichever you prefer. Have the Hapeh in front of you. Take your Kuripe Pipe and scoop into the container of Hapeh towards yourself. A half pea sized amount is best. I like to have about half the hole of the Kuripe to be without Hapeh. Next, hold the Kuripe with Hapeh in it at your Center, Anahata/Heart Chakra. Make an intention of what you want to accomplish with Hapeh: Healing/Peace/Etc. Then insert the Kuripe into your Left Nostril first, blow gently. Repeat scooping, towards yourself, and do the same into your Right Nostril. It will sting a little at first, just breathe into it. Do this 1-2 times a day.

Sananga: First I'll say, this does cause about an 8 on the scale of pain. Though that is immediately followed by an immense amount of Bliss. It's been called "A kick in the face that gives Enlightenment." So, this one is recommended to have someone sit with you and administer the drops for you. It can be done alone, though first time I suggest somebody to be with you. Again, a comfortable setting. Lay down or sit on a couch/chair and breathe deep. Close your Left Eye and Drop only Once. Do not open that eye yet. Do the same for your Right Eye. Now blink 3 times so that the liquid Sananga evenly distributes. At this point you will feel the pain, like Cayenne has gotten into your eyes. Breathe into it, deep. That pain will last 10-20 seconds. Keep your eyes closed. Have a tissue to wipe the tears on your cheeks, do not wipe your eyes. You may or may not have visions, I personally have not yet and I have taken Sananga 15 times. After the pain goes away you'll experience a very blissful feeling. When you are ready then slowly open your eyes. It will feel like you've had foggy eyeglasses cleaned and perfectly clear vision now. It's recommended on chakraopenings.com to take Sananga daily for a solid two weeks, and then have a break. Two things I want to mention is only take once per day and only one drop per eye. Also I recommend to do so in a darkened room because it does increase sensitivity to light. You can combine your daily Hapeh with Sananga, it's best to take Hapeh after the Sananga.

Most Important: Always Respect these Medicines.

www.chakraopenings.com

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Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, therapist or psychiatrist. Always discuss with your doctor before taking any supplement or otherwise. And if these treatments are illegal in your country, then of course, do not purchase send or use them. I am simply a volunteer on the staff here and a fellow depersonalized person who has found profound healing with the above mentioned medicines.
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For any further questions, post here or hit me up in DM.

www.chakraopenings.com

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 6, 2022

Hey,

I have not yet tried the Aya Drops. I may do so sometime sooner than later. So Hapeh is the pronunciation of Rapé.

From the website:

WHAT IS RAPÉ?

Rapé is a legal sacred shamanic medicine that has been used by healers of the Amazon basin for thousands of years. It is pronounced ‘ha-peh’ in English, but is also referred to as ‘hape’, ‘hapi’, or ‘rapay’ by Westerners. These are very rare, sacred, powerful, and profoundly healing and cleansing miracle medicines, and are made in a very sacred and labor intensive process. Rapé is a complex blend of pulverized Amazonian medicinal plants, trees, leaves, seeds, and other sacred ingredients.

Traditionally, Rapé is applied by using a pipe made from bamboo, which is blow through each nostril on both sides. It can be self-administered using a V-shaped self-applicator pipe which connects the mouth to the nostrils. It can also be administered by another person using a blow pipe which connects the blower’s mouth to the other person’s nostrils. The self-applicator pipe is known as a ‘kuripe’ and the blow pipe is known as a ‘tepi’.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 6, 2022

leminaseri said:
what do you mean by you feel as if you are on your way out of it? can you explain in detail?

First let me tell you my history with depersonalization. I started smoking weed at 14 years old. The second time I smoked it, I had marijuana induced DP/DR for 10 minutes, (I can look back and say this, though I didn't know it at the time). Then at 16 years old I had laced weed that caused a major panic attack, which ended in me going home late, 2am, and telling my family that I felt that I was going to die. So I went to sleep, and when I woke up I was completely dissociated. I felt like a ghost, I couldn't feel connected to my body, memories, emotions, thought process and so on. For over 18 years I have had full on blank mind, anhedonia, dissociation, derealization, depersonalization. I don't feel the physicality of reality. I experience that I don't see what my eyes see, or hear what my ears hear, and the same for the other senses. Time is experienced as one long moment; since day one I no longer had individual moments/segments of the sense of time passing. No new minutes, days, hours, years etc. There's a lot more I could say but I think you'll get an idea of where I'm coming from.

I've put in blood sweat and tears to get to where I am today. Up until recently, the symptoms all have been present. I have grown stronger though, in the sense that at certain times I have been able to work at various jobs. Between 2009 and 2015 I was able to be on Social Security Disability. I went back to school, so the government bureaucracy determined to take me off that. I'm not completely independent, I live with family and contribute towards the rent, food etc. But I do work in a store where I'm able to interact with the public. When I first entered DP/DR, I could not look into other's eyes without panic/fear/dissociation. I ended up skipping a lot of high school because I was effectively unable to socialize. When I did go to class, I pretended to sleep on the desk, (because I could not actually sleep in the midst of the DP/DR and panic/anxiety). So that might show you how far I've come.

Through the help of time, progress and now recently these medicines, I have been able to start reconnecting with my body/mind/emotions/spirit/self. What do you want, a description on how it feels to not be depersonalized? I too wanted that for almost two decades now. But as a former admin and forum member, Selig, used to say: "They are state specific conditions." I can no more explain to you how it feels to reconnect than depersonalized persons can explain DP/DR to people who have not had it. And implied in the quote from Selig, when you're in one or the other, you don't really recall how either feels. All I can say is that it feels good and empowering. Life never stopped moving so there's a lot to catch up on. And of course after coming out of any traumatic event, let alone nearly two decades of trauma, there will be a ton of healing and processing to do.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 6, 2022

leminaseri said:
if a drug should help us to face our fears and resolve deep ingrained inner conflicts from childhood and adolescence, this would in particular mean that it is possible anyway. if you elaborate further, this just means that this dpdr stuff is nothing we should complain or be anxious about. our experiences got us into this, because we would not survive in the first place. i can remember my toxic, selfcondraticting emotional pain i suffered nights long and even if i hate dp it killed all of those unbearable things. how should a drug or anything similar resolve all of those toxic events? it doesnt make sense to me.

Do you not apply neosporin ointment on a minor wound for disinfectant and enhanced healing?

Have you not hugged a loved one and felt instantly better?

Chemicals are released when medicines and/or drugs are taken.

One thing I know about healing is, the body/mind heals itself, all you can do is boost and balance the progress.

Vitamin D helps the immune system, etc etc.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 6, 2022

And if you've ever taken psilocybin, ayahuasca, iboga or any other entheogen... you'd be able to speak from experience that these medicines do in fact help us to face our truths. Have you ever had a powerful dream that helped you process something in life? That's the same idea, except while awake and taking one of these medicines.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 7, 2022

Aridity said:
I have ordered some Aya drops it was something that was on my radar for quite some while. But never had the balls to do it, I will report back with the effects on me.

Cool, let us know! Remember to follow proper instructions. Also it's a good idea to have somebody you know and trust to sit with you while you take the Aya Drops.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 8, 2022

Yes, they are microdoses. I've taken psilocybin but only microdosing as well. Weed absolutely wrecks me even one hit. My symptoms are amplified 100x with any amount of marijuana. I haven't smoked or ingested THC since 2006. I know my mind on substances. I haven't taken any other hallucinogens. With all things, medicines are to be respected and treated with care. I've had prescribed pharmaceuticals give me hallucinations. Neither Hapeh nor Sananga have given me any kind of hallucination, though visions are a common occurrence for people with Sananga. Personally, both have provided Grounding and Clarity of Mind. Mainly they've been healing and refreshing for my DP/DR symptomology.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 8, 2022

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Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, therapist or psychiatrist. Always discuss with your doctor before taking any supplement or otherwise. And if these treatments are illegal in your country, then of course, do not purchase send or use them. I am simply a volunteer on the staff here and a fellow depersonalized person who has found profound healing with the above mentioned medicines.
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For anyone still interested, here are the instructions to follow:

Hapeh: Get into a comfortable setting, with relaxing music or silence, whichever you prefer. Have the Hapeh in front of you. Take your Kuripe Pipe and scoop into the container of Hapeh towards yourself. A half pea sized amount is best. I like to have about half the hole of the Kuripe to be without Hapeh. Next, hold the Kuripe with Hapeh in it at your Center, Anahata/Heart Chakra. Make an intention of what you want to accomplish with Hapeh: Healing/Peace/Etc. Then insert the Kuripe into your Left Nostril first, blow gently. Repeat scooping, towards yourself, and do the same into your Right Nostril. It will sting a little at first, just breathe into it. Do this 1-2 times a day.

Sananga: First I'll say, this does cause about an 8 on the scale of pain. Though that is immediately followed by an immense amount of Bliss. It's been called "A kick in the face that gives Enlightenment." So, this one is recommended to have someone sit with you and administer the drops for you. It can be done alone, though first time I suggest somebody to be with you. Again, a comfortable setting. Lay down or sit on a couch/chair and breathe deep. Close your Left Eye and Drop only Once. Do not open that eye yet. Do the same for your Right Eye. Now blink 3 times so that the liquid Sananga evenly distributes. At this point you will feel the pain, like Cayenne has gotten into your eyes. Breathe into it, deep. That pain will last 10-20 seconds. Keep your eyes closed. Have a tissue to wipe the tears on your cheeks, do not wipe your eyes. You may or may not have visions, I personally have not yet and I have taken Sananga 15 times. After the pain goes away you'll experience a very blissful feeling. When you are ready then slowly open your eyes. It will feel like you've had foggy eyeglasses cleaned and perfectly clear vision now. It's recommended on chakraopenings.com to take Sananga daily for a solid two weeks, and then have a break. Two things I want to mention is only take once per day and only one drop per eye. Also I recommend to do so in a darkened room because it does increase sensitivity to light. You can combine your daily Hapeh with Sananga, it's best to take Hapeh after the Sananga.

Most Important: Always Respect these Medicines.

www.chakraopenings.com

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Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, therapist or psychiatrist. Always discuss with your doctor before taking any supplement or otherwise. And if these treatments are illegal in your country, then of course, do not purchase send or use them. I am simply a volunteer on the staff here and a fellow depersonalized person who has found profound healing with the above mentioned medicines.
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For any further questions, post here or hit me up in DM.

www.chakraopenings.com

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 8, 2022

Nobody is saying you will die by taking Hapeh or Sananga. And I've personally gone through psychosis. Neither of these have exacerbated that in me. Quite the opposite as I've tried to state.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 8, 2022

Trith said:
That's good and I hope it stays that way. Also if it gives you grounding it sounds more trustworthy. And just out of curiosity, what medicine gave you hallucinations? I did have some with zoloft, although my DPDR was gone temporarily.

It was Seroquel. I only took it for 2-3 days. I take Zoloft every day for mood/depression.

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ThoughtOnFire

Discussion Starter · #21 · Mar 9, 2022

Aridity said:
The AYA drops have arrived, I will start with 4 drops before bed. The recommended starting dosage is 5 drops, but I rather be safe than sorry. As I am very prone to anxiety and such but I won't suspect any of that if I have to believe the research I have done. Will report back shortly

Did you order from ChakraOpenings.com? Remember to keep it refrigerated.

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