God?

For me god is just the force that we all came from, that being all the intellgent and other beings in the universe with couciousness, even the universe itself, I don't believe that this god takes a form really, I belive it more like the taoist belief that everything came from one force or orginal point, anyway I think that the trational chrsitan belief that we go to hell for are sins is counterproducitve and just makes people more guilt ridden than they should be about their life, cos I mean some sins are fun and we should'nt all be hungup about whats going to happen in the next life because of my actions in this one etc etc. Also something thats always baffeled me about the story of creation is that no dinosurs were mentioned, I mean no one can posssibly dispute that dinosurs exsisted, yet still many people believe that we all came from 1 man and 1 women who lived in a big happy garden and then the nasty snake came along with knowledge (who wouldn't want knowledge?) and made us all sinful, It just sounds like the sort of story a five year old would make up. I mean I still repect whatever people want to believe but It doesn't mean I have to beleive it.

peacedove said:

2012? Never heard that one before.

I'm still struggling with my God issues. I want to believe... Oh I'm just so confused, nevermind.

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2012 is supposadlly according to the mayans the end of time/the start of a new cycle or whatever.

and also 2012 is the date for the end of time wave zero, a theroy of terrence mckennas

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Novelty Theory has a few basic tenets:

That the universe is a living system with a teleological attractor at the end of time that drives the increase and conservation of complexity in material forms.
That novelty and complexity increase over time, despite repeated set-backs, in a process similar to punctuated equilibrium in biology.
That the human brain represents the pinnacle of complex organization in the known universe to date.
That fluctuations in novelty over time are self-similar at different scales. Thus the rise and fall of the Roman Empire might be resonant with the life of a family within a single generation, or with an individual's day at work.
That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
That the date of this historical endpoint is December 21, 2012, the end of the long count of the Mayan calendar. (A less common interpretation puts the end date of the Mayan calendar at December 23, 2012, but McKenna used the more common solstice date.)
This End of History was to be the final manifestation of The Eschaton, which McKenna characterized as a sort of strange attractor towards which the evolution of the universe developed.

His predictions for this transcendent event were wide ranging and varied, depending on his audience. At times he conjectured that it would be the moment at which the mass of humanity would, by means of some technology, become mentally conjoined in a great collective. At others he speculated that this was to be the moment in which time travel became a reality. Another was the birth of self-conscious artificial intelligence. Another was a global UFO visitation. Occasionally he even expressed doubt as to whether anything at all would happen. However, McKenna claimed that there was no contradiction between these scenarios, as they might all happen simultaneously.

I don't subscribe to the whole 2012 legend, but still would be preety cool to witness the end of time.