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or have gotten better already. what helped you or made you get out of the severe dp/dr state that i seem to be in. i don't know what to do. even when i think about other things it doesn't help because nothing else really interests me and i feel like i'm stuck in this state.

has anyone gotten better with medicine alone, my brain is so spaced out all the time. my teacher said when you die you only use 20% of your brain power or something like that, so i guess i still have brain power, but i don't feel as smart anymore. death to this illness :evil:
 
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It comes and goes. I don't know how to get rid of it totally though. I also feel really, reaqlly stupid at the moment - even elementary tasks are a mssion sometimes. :?
 

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hi

when at its worst i just had to exist through it. as it started to lift a little i found some things helped.

maintaining a routine so you don't have to try and think of things to distract you.
valerian or hot whiskey to sleep(otherwise avoiding alcohol and rec drugs other than cigs)
ssri (after the initial horror of it)
green juice-celery/spinach/cucumber/apple etc
omega 3 6 +9
swimming-found the water sensation helped connection
any kind of massage
low talk radio to sleep
 
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biggest factors to getting better is time, patience and understanding. For me i follow different patterns and stick with them, like make a new pattern of living for yourself if the one you have isn't working. Eat well, excersise, take your vitamins, dont let yourself obssess, just accept your fate and go with it.
 

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For me the best thing that has worked so far has been Cognitive Behaviourial Therapy which i learnt at an anxiety clinic. Because ocd is
the biggest problem, and no doubt the cause of most of my problems, if
i practice behavioural therapy on a regular basis it does wonders.

If you don't have ocd, this advice probably will do no good though.
But that's what's worked for me after years of trial and error.
 
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Phill said:
For me the best thing that has worked so far has been Cognitive Behaviourial Therapy which i learnt at an anxiety clinic. Because ocd is
the biggest problem, and no doubt the cause of most of my problems, if
i practice behavioural therapy on a regular basis it does wonders.

If you don't have ocd, this advice probably will do no good though.
But that's what's worked for me after years of trial and error.
Could you please explain to me wot OCD is ?

Thanks
 
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Phill said:
For me the best thing that has worked so far has been Cognitive Behaviourial Therapy which i learnt at an anxiety clinic. Because ocd is
the biggest problem, and no doubt the cause of most of my problems, if
i practice behavioural therapy on a regular basis it does wonders.

If you don't have ocd, this advice probably will do no good though.
But that's what's worked for me after years of trial and error.
Could you please explain to me wot OCD is ?

Thanks
Obssesive Compulsive Disorder, its when you constantly obssess about little things like keeping the door locked, desk clean, constantly doing the same things
 

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hi

when at its worst i just had to exist through it. as it started to lift a little i found some things helped.

maintaining a routine so you don't have to try and think of things to distract you.
valerian or hot whiskey to sleep(otherwise avoiding alcohol and rec drugs other than cigs)
ssri (after the initial horror of it)
green juice-celery/spinach/cucumber/apple etc
omega 3 6 +9
swimming-found the water sensation helped connection
any kind of massage
low talk radio to sleep
With DP and GAD any drugs should be avoided especially smoking(does not matter if its tobacco) If you want to get best results out of your therapy you should give it up. Smoking is one of the primary causes for anxiety(hence DP), and you notice it when your body starts to carve for nicotine.
 

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Could you please explain to me wot OCD is ?

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Ocd is when you can't shake a thought from your head and it goes
round and round and round and drives you mad and more often
than not becomes the focus of your whole life. Your mission in life
is to 'try' and rid yourself of obsessive thoughts through performing
compulsive actions over and over and over. Anything like brushing
your hair repeatedly or leaving your seatbelt off while driving the
car. Is classed as a chronic disease.
 

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eat good unprocessed foods - esp. meat, vegetables and fruit

low on carbs - low on sugar

get plenty of good sleep + sex if your luck's in

avoid stressful situations

take plenty of exercise

get out as much as possible

accept challenges that seem daunting - remember they're also daunting for people without dp/dr

don't let your dp/dr fool you into believing that you're worthless - you're not - you may just think you are

you can do whatver you want with your life even with dp/dr
work

have something to do every day that involves discharging responsibilities to others

do not focus on your own problems

make friends/lovers and learn to accept friendship/love

socialise even if it's stressful - remember it's stressful for others too until the ice is broken

don't use dp as a perpetual excuse for avoiding all the sh!t that life throws at everyone

you're not crazy - remember that the glass is at least half full (cliche - sorry)

train for something to do in life that you find really absorbing

have kids if you want - your dp helps you understand that they are little individuals too and being a little different yourself stops you from exerting destructive pressure on them to conform

in short - try and make the best of things whilst remaining realistic about what's possible

won't provide a miracle "cure" but puts your p/dr firmly in the back seat for long periods IMHO

rob
 

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I think I'm getting better. I don't think of this as dp/dr anymore. That was making it worse. (Just checking the forum occasionally for any interesting bits and to see how other people are doing.)

So, if I am getting better there'd be two factors. I lost the terror in one go from riding it as far as it could take me, shut my eyes and tried to push it higher. I wrote that up in some other thread a bit afterwards. The second, and more important, was, um, reading the last few pages of Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse.

(I still don't feel like I did before. But I'm not scared, or apathetic about life, or anything negative really, except a little nostalgic for being 'normal.' But even that nostalgia is rather self-delusive I think, like misremembering childhood. I think if anything I'm probably happier than I was before. Not because of or despite anything, probably just because not a hormonal teenager anymore.

Anyway, my new way of thinking is to do with 'overlap,' a word that came automatically to mind after an experience of everything just clicking into place. I've stopped trying to avoid any particular way of thinking about things, that wasn't working for me, since everything I felt about things like self and reality seemed intellectually inevitable, and the feeling and the facts seemed inextricably knotted (maybe that last bit is where the illusion lay, but I couldn't get rid of it even if that's all it was). But then I've come to feel that it's possible to believe completely in the world at the same time as seeing right through it. I can't explain it very well but just read Siddhartha, the bit about stones.

I've had a lot of very interesting, pleasant and constructive experiences over the past couple of months. And I feel like I've got a goal now too, which is to make these experiences click into place with the real, normal world. And I know at the very least that I can't relapse into the state I was in before, because I've found a state that lies under the terror and believe in that more strongly than pretty much anything else. Even including stones actually.)
 

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the thing is how can i be postive when i really can't feel my body, it is so numb. i can't feel when someone touches me or even if i'm holding someone's hand... i don't feel it. i can't even think or do simple things its like i have no strength, i feel as dead as dead can be. i feel like a ghost. i know this is negative, but its hard to be postive when i seriously don't feel physical contact with any part of my body with anyone at all. its like my body doesn't want to work anymore.
 

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anything thing is i've like totally lost my sense of taste and smell. nothing smells or taste's good to me, as well nothing sounds good to me, and nothing i see pleases me. everything is in 2d, i have trouble seeing clear. i can't even smell the air. the only thing that is keeping me alive is hope that one day i will be back the the happy loving caring compassionate passionate, exciting, fun, funny, music loving sport loving social marco who enjoys everything in life and everyone around them. i see it very hard to get back to that point, as my senses are all distorted and i'm just totally apathetic for everything and everyone and everything i see or hear.

at first i thought it could have been the anti-psychotics that i was on, but i haven't took it for 2 weeks and am feeling worse as far as feeling and happiness goes. i really can't believe something like this happended to me, maybe when i get through this, and there will be that day that i can help other people who expierience similiar things. i'm just hoping that when is soon. i know i have to be patient, but each day that goes by i don't get better. i'm actually getting more depressed at the way i'm feeling and how i can' t feel my body that i don't know what to do anymore. life just seems so meaningless to me, and it really seems like i'm existing as a ghost or something. the thing is i don't feel anxious or anything i feel nothing. just some frustration and sadness every now and then and depression, but i wasn't depressed before taking the medicine.
 
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