[danny]

Hey

I was reading the HPPD article in the 'other: mental health dicussion' room, and can relate to almost all of the vision distortion symptoms. I am curious, I am a drug induced dp from ecstasy but am wondering can any people here relate to those symptoms who don't have drug induced dp?

dan

 

[maria]

Hi

mine wasn't drug induced, and I don't have visual distortions. In the beginning I had other physical symptoms, but there was never anything wrong with my perception, balance etc. In general I'd be interested to know if there's any basic differences between drug induced / non drug induced dpdr or are they pretty much the same thing. From what I've read it seems that the drug just triggers something that was already there. So I've already answered to my own question.

 

[Guest]

Ive had this crap forever. Its all the same shade of gray already. pfft.

eDfGr33n
"blah."

 

[Dreamer]

I do not have drug induced DP/DR. It started when I was a child and it's root is certainly, to some degree, connected to an abusive childhood. I have depression and GAD as well.

I cannot relate to all of the visual symptoms of some drug induced people. My sense is there are more visual symptoms in those with drug induced DP/DR. I could be completely wrong.

But I don't see static, flashing lights, weird movement of walls, etc. I do have the typical DR symptoms such as things look unreal, are two dimensional, there is a dimmness to colors, light looks "off" -- is too stimulating. I wear dark glasses a lot outdoors, especially in the summer. I HATE beautiful sunny days sadly.

In some people who have drug induced DP/DR who did NOT have some anxiety or other emotional problem before... I think those people have a variation of the DP/DR experience... but certainly no less miserable.

This may be entirely hogwash, however. Just my experience.

 

[dreamcatcher]

i have visual distortions with light trailers double vision and objects shimmering.......and as far as i know i went into dp with stress...anxiety and alot of head pain......but i also had carbamazipine off a doctor at the same time do i have no idea if its related to the prescription drud or not cause i dont believe it would take 12 months plus to get 6 little tablets out of my system and still have chronic dp/dr

 

[Guest]

My first experience of dp/dr was drug induced (pot).This was a long time ago.
I didn't have any long term visual disturbances until the last couple of years when my dp became chronic this time it was not drug induced.
Since my dp became chronic I've experienced many of the same visual probs others here talk about.

 

[danny]

cheers for the reply's

From my first dp attack from drugs, it took probably about 3/4 months for me notice the visual distortions, surely if they were a result of drugs themselves they would have been apparent from the word go? Surely, if the drugs had given me 'brain damage' it would have not taken a few months for the damage occur? from the looks of it hppd is quite similar to dp though, although maybe you can have hppd without any dp. to be honest i can remember when i was a child i could see flashes of light etc especially when i shut my eyes.

cheers

 

[jft]

Danny. Many with hppd visuals do not have dp/dr. Some do. I have tried for along time to sort out this visual field comparison. I had mild hppd for a year or so and it basically left, but what stayed was this dp/dr/trippy feeling. My visuals to date resemble alot of you folks here describe...the problem with lights, fog in the air, cloudy air, hard to read etc. Where there seems a fine line for me is when hppd people speak of static. I would call it that or at least things look grainy. But I think their experience is more pronounced. I also see halos, but even normal folks can see these if they look for them. I truly do not know where i fit in, and that is why this board and the hppdonline.com site are important to me.
Don't worry about brain damage...that is such a misunderstood and unuseful term. It is a moot term for us.
jft

 

[Guest]

Yeah, you and I jft. The hppd lingered for a while buts its receded into almost identical derealization problems that you guys are experiencing.