[university girl]

Documentary partially about DP. Released Jun 10, 2004 (my BD!).

Here's a link to the trailer and official site i think. Not sure which video stores carry this film. If you find out, please let us know.

http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/1735896 (trailer)

http://www.i-saw-tarnation.com/ (official site?)

Uni-G

 

[Revelation_old]

Official Site:
http://www.i-saw.tarnation.com

Uni, did you see this on the Depersonalization News section I created first or elsewhere? (Just trying to see if it will be an effective section).

 

[kenc127]

won't be watching that one :lol:

 

[Guest]

Ken, there's hope for you yet!

 

[university girl]

Yes Rev, I got this from the news section...well, actually from a post Grant R started about filming his own DP movie. He found it in the news section then posted about it...

Do you know where it's available? Is it available in Canada yet or only the states?

Uni-G

 

[Guest]

It was part of the New York film festival here in the summer and then opened in a regular (but art film type) theatre here last week. I doubt it's "general release" but would be the kind of small film that would show up in the more interesting and offbeat movie theatres.

 

[Guest]

Ken, there's hope for you yet!

Janine what do you mean?

anyways, i watched the trailer & it looks like one of those weird Indie Documentaries/Movies that would weird me out for some reason. I guess the director has DP & is gay and his mom has Bi Polar and something else. I don't know that this movie would do anything for me, except make me anxious or feel weird.

I think a more informational or motivational movie on DP/DR and surrounding problems would be more beneficial, even if it was to be fictional.

Janine should make a movie, if you ever do holla at me J Bizzle, so i can do the soundtrack!

 

[Guest]

you CAN do my soundtrack, lol...too perfect.

I know ol' Ken pretty well and he messes his head up by reading about mental illness, etc...he thinks he has every sign of insanity he reads about. So for HIM, that film is a badddd idea.

 

[Dreamer]

I found more information on The Internet Movie Database

http://www.imdb.com

It's a documentary, a home-made one at that.....
Link to IMDB info:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0390538

And some basic info.....

Tarnation (2003)
Directed by
Jonathan Caouette

Writing credits
Jonathan Caouette

Genre: Documentary / Drama (more)

Plot Outline: Filmmaker Jonathan Caouette's documentary on growing up with his schizophrenic mother -- a mixture of snapshots, Super-8, answering machine messages, video diaries, early short films, and more -- culled from 19 years of his life. (view trailer)

User Rating: 6.9/10 (97 votes)

Credited cast:
Jonathan Caouette .... Himself
Michael Cox
Adolph Davis
Rosemary Davis
Renee Leblanc
David Sanin Paz
(more)

Runtime: 105 min / 87 min
Country: USA
Language: English
Color: Black and White / Color
Sound Mix: Dolby SR

Trivia: Was edited with Apple Computer's "iMovie" - a free DV editing
program for Macintosh computers. (more)

One viewer's comments:
TARNATION
Comments:

FilmLabRat

Date: 1 June 2004
Summary: hmmmm
"It took me awhile to believe that a distributor was pre-screening this
totally self-absorbed home movie. But when I learned that this
film-hobbyist allegedly made it on $218. I sat up and took notice. You
can do this all with a little camcorder and a Mac? Wow. Move over,
Blair Witch Project and other groundbreakers. Although it's suspect
that he could get the music rights alone for under $40,000, the
ridiculously (legendarily) low production cost is intriguing. Some of
Tarnation's footage is creative and collage-like, but I have to admit I
took breaks when it got boring. It has too much 'everyday life' in a
family that doesn't care whether it lives or dies - and doesn't want to
be on camera. It becomes torturous at times to sense watch people
forced to mug for a camera. The filmmaker makes little attempt to
comment or find meaning - just bares a lot of naked emotion. It's a
typical "student film" coming of age memoirs flick. If you've been
misunderstood, alone and neglected most of your life, with literally
certifiable people in your family, you may find Tarnation cathartic -
it may be your story and worth a look. Otherwise, ignore this home
movie anguish."

You can get external critic reviews and much more info on locations that would play this. My guess it would be hard to find. I'll look more into this.

Best,
D :shock:

P.S.
I read somewhere that individuals with a schizophrenic parent have a greater risk of getting some sort of mental illness, though it isn't a guarantee. Very interesting that someone mentions DP finally!

 

[Guest]

theres this street here, near Brown University and its a very " artsy" street, & theres a theater there that shows all " artsy" and indiependant films, i bet this might be playing their eventually. Janine have you seen the film??? Would you recommend going to see it? I doubt actually I KNOW anyone that I know would want to go see this, so id have to go by myself..........

 

[Guest]

ooo..good stuff, Hairball!

I haven't seen it, but plan to soon.

From what I have seen in clips though, I dont' think the mother is actually schizophrenic...severely disturbed, but I suspect more borderline with bi-polar. My hunch is the schizophrenia was the early doctors' best guess, but probably incorrect.

 

[Guest]

btw, Grant R is making a movie?

now that id be interested to see

 

[Dreamer]

Oddly enough, I have a degree in filmmaking. I have contemplated how to convey this for years. Documentary seems the best way, but to creat the special effects necessary, it still wouldn't be easy to understand...

See, "A Beautiful Mind", etc.

I could kick myself that in grad school I was still hiding my illness and didn't do a documentary on mental illness of some kind.

It is VERY difficult. I have a friend who has won Emmy's for commercial special effects, and for sporting events. I described DP to him 1,000 times and he didn't get it.

I'm not saying this couldn't or shouldn't be done. It is just very difficult, and what Caouette has done was done with $218 and doesn't seem to have a large audience. But more power to him.

The documentary Crumb is probably a better doc about a family with schizophrenia. A Beautiful Mind is a much better book than film, though I'm glad Hollywood took on that impossible task. But Ron Howard is one to sugarcoat and he isn't a good director.... simply IMHO.

Best,
D :shock:

 

[Guest]

I really didn't like A Beautiful Mind, to me it didn't seem like the movie got realistic until he realized what was going on. I dunno, i just thought it was a strange movie and actually this was all before i even knew what DP/DR was.

I currently have a song in the works, and it talks about DP/DR and what not, and all of the shit ive been going through. When its done, i may post it here even though 98 % of the people here don't like rap.

 

[Guest]

Oh, that movie "Crumb" is extraordinary! Yes! Very very disturbing, many psychotic people, not for the faint hearted, but excellent.

There is another film, also highly disturbing, called "pi" (actually the title is the SYMBOL for "pi" the mathematic symbol). It's fiction, but is one of the best in terms of imagery of a mental collapse/psychotic break.

Peace,
Janine
go see the new animated film about sharks, lol...stay away from the mental illness stuff if you're prone to obsessions.

 

[Guest]

^ in high school one of the math classes my friend was in was forced to watch PI and do a paper on it. Fortunatly i am horrible at math and was always in the lower level classes, where the thought of watching a movie like PI wouldn't even be considered. My friend saw it though and said it was weird, but never mentioned anything about the guy in the movie having a psychotic break?

i hate Math

 

[Dreamer]

It seems that some film buffs caught this at Sundance and there is a question that it could be entered in the documentary category at the Oscars for 2004.

Problem w/distribution. Unless it's picked up by a large distributor, this may only be found in Art Houses.

I think this is a pic of a poster. There were no references to VHS, and no DVD info. But give it a year and it may pop up, even on Public Broadcasting, or some other good "off-beat" show.

Looks interesting.

I still say have a look at "Crumb", a doc about the famous cartoonist whose mother and two siblings (? as I recall) are schizophrenic. He seems to have Asperger's Syndrome, but I haven't seen it in quite some time.

Who originally caught wind of this?

 

[Dreamer]

Hell, image shows up in Preview, but not in the post. Sorry, you can see it on the imbd website and on the others.

 

[Dreamer]

Now the pic showed up!

Janine, LOL, yes I want to see "A Shark's Tale" -- as you know I love singing critters, and the voices are Jack Black, Will Smith, and some other great actors/singers.

A tad more cheerful I'd think
L,
D

 

[kenc127]

A Beautiful Mind got the ball rolling Good movie though lol.